The Facts Finally Revealed [ Part 2 ]

[Maldini]

My information said that the Jews were in 1938 16,5 milions,in 1948 were 18,5 milions and the Jews who were in countries which Germany occupied it were less than 2 milions

[brandon313]

i regret to inform you that just about ALL of the holocaust denier testimonies have been proven to be flawed. By lie detector tests, and by factual documents

[Maldini]

i regret to inform you that just about ALL of the holocaust denier testimonies have been proven to be flawed. By lie detector tests' date=' and by factual documents[/quote']

 

What that mean?

[brandon313]

the men who have testified AGAINST the holocaust, saying that it never happened, are citing evidence that has been proven to be flawed.

 

and their testimonies on what they "saw" have been proven false through "lie detector tests"

[General Smut]

My information said that the Jews were in 1938 16' date='5 milions,in 1948 were 18,5 milions and the Jews who were in countries which Germany occupied it were less than 2 milions[/quote']

 

Your info is wrong.

[huntjd]

wait a sec... maldini... you exposed a flaw in your argument a couple pages back...

 

if you say that the man who developed the V2 should have been trialled and the head of the wermacht for war crimes, that should also mean other high profile nazis should have been trialled to. my friend you contradicted yourself...

 

eichmann. charged with orchestrating the final solution and subsequently put to death as should have been, but you say the jews were killed by accident....

 

but the v2 and atom bomb were also accidents as governments capitalised on new scientific ideas.... oppenheimer, einstein and fermi should be tried from what you are saying.... 'but they were indirect actions by their designers too'

 

from your argument you agree that the nazis are responsible for the death of the jews and should be persecuted. no doubt about it. next time, don't contradict yourself.

[Gitta Rensolo]

Belive me,you can bring anyone as a witness and there wasn't any official document about it

 

How can you get sure that those witnesses told the truth?

 

 

So I guess all these people we saw in this documentary about the KZ Bergen-Belsen

in my history major course in school......they were all actors...wooow....they must have been well paid actors for acting so amazingly great-....

 

Come on....we watched this film about it some weeks ago...and it was horrible....damn awful....we saw those people dying...we saw those dead faces "looking" at us...we saw those thousand shoes.....we saw how those people in the Kzs who worked there got punished for it.....by burrying the dead bodies.....we saw all those people sitting in a train waiting for their "road to nowhere",.....

 

it was so horrible.....my history teacher almost cried....no joke.....

 

Good actors I'd say...

[brandon313]

there were regular american GI's who liberated camps and told of it later. Easy company 101st airborne (the guys in band of brothers) liberated Landsberg concentration camp and saw it all first hand, and spoke with the surviving captives of what happened. They then made every german citizen 10 to 80 in the town next to it come in and bury the bodies (as an indirect punishment for not doing anything about it)

[General Smut]

Conspracy nuts are famous for cherry picking selected facts while ignoring others. They also quote people out of context and ignore the same sources when those sources try to correct the record.

[Maldini]

Your info is wrong.

 

 

I don't think that;)

[Maldini]

wait a sec... maldini... you exposed a flaw in your argument a couple pages back...

 

if you say that the man who developed the V2 should have been trialled and the head of the wermacht for war crimes, that should also mean other high profile nazis should have been trialled to. my friend you contradicted yourself...

 

eichmann. charged with orchestrating the final solution and subsequently put to death as should have been, but you say the jews were killed by accident....

 

but the v2 and atom bomb were also accidents as governments capitalised on new scientific ideas.... oppenheimer, einstein and fermi should be tried from what you are saying.... 'but they were indirect actions by their designers too'

 

from your argument you agree that the nazis are responsible for the death of the jews and should be persecuted. no doubt about it. next time, don't contradict yourself.

 

 

 

What you saying?

 

I just want everyone to see the truth

[Maldini]

So I guess all these people we saw in this documentary about the KZ Bergen-Belsen

in my history major course in school......they were all actors...wooow....they must have been well paid actors for acting so amazingly great-....

 

Come on....we watched this film about it some weeks ago...and it was horrible....damn awful....we saw those people dying...we saw those dead faces "looking" at us...we saw those thousand shoes.....we saw how those people in the Kzs who worked there got punished for it.....by burrying the dead bodies.....we saw all those people sitting in a train waiting for their "road to nowhere",.....

 

it was so horrible.....my history teacher almost cried....no joke.....

 

Good actors I'd say...

 

 

That's what Zionism want,they make people of Germany feel sorry,always feel sorry.Everytime make people feel shame and take Billions of $.They make children in schools feel sorry and always make the Jews as a victims

[Lifelike]

What you saying?

 

I just want everyone to see the truth

 

Except there is no truth in your statements to see, buddy.

 

If anyone needs to see any truth, it's you.

[huntjd]

^ yeah i prooved your argument was flawed. and you turn around "what you saying?"

 

you know exactly what i'm saying.. you are totally wrong on this issue and you have a totally flawed argument.

[Maldini]

^ yeah i prooved your argument was flawed. and you turn around "what you saying?"

 

you know exactly what i'm saying.. you are totally wrong on this issue and you have a totally flawed argument.

 

 

You proved nothing dude

[General Smut]

You havent proved anything other than you dont like Jews.

[huntjd]

You proved nothing dude

 

would you like me to repeat it?!

 

*and i'm not your 'dude' quite the opposite actually!

[Maldini]

One-Sided "Holocaustomania

 

Even after more than forty years, the stream of Holocaust films and books shows no sign of diminishing. This relentless media campaign, which Jewish historian Alfred Lilienthal calls "Holocaustomania," portrays the fate of the Jews during the Second World War as the central event of history. There is no end to the heavy-handed motion pictures, the simplistic television specials, the vindictive hunt for "Nazi-war criminals," the one-sided "educational courses," and the self-righteous appearances by politicans and celebrities at Holocaust "memorial services." Britain's chief rabbi, Immanuel Jakobovits, has accurately described the Holocaust campaign as "an entire industry, with handsome profits for writers, researchers, film-makers, monument builders, museum planners and even politicians." He added that some rabbis and theologians are "partners in this big business." (H. Shapiro, "Jakobovits," 'Jerusalem Post' (Israel), Nov. 26, 1987, p.1) Non-Jewish victims just don't merit the same concern. For example, there are no American memorials, "study centers," or annual observances for Stalin's victims, who vastly outnumber Hitler's.

[Maldini]

Many Holocaust Claims Abandoned

 

Revisionists point out that the Holocaust story has changed quite a lot over the years. Many extermination camps that were once widely accepted have been quitely dropped in recent years . At one time it was alleged that the Germans gassed Jews at Dachau, Buchenwald and other concentration camps in Germany proper. That part of the extermination story proved so untenable that it was abandoned more than twenty years ago. No serious historian now supports the once supposedly proven story of "extermination camps" in the territory of the old German Reich. Even famed "Nazi hunter" Simon Wiesenthal acknowledged in 1975 that "there were no extermination camps on German soil." ('Books & Bookmen', London, April 1975, p.5). Prominent Holocaust historians now claim that masses of Jews were gassed at just six camps in what is now Poland: Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka, Sobibor, Chelmno and Belzec. However, the "evidence presented for "gassings" at these six camps is not qualitatively different than the "evidence" for alleged "gassings" at the camps in Germany proper. At the great Nuremberg trial of 1945-1946 and during the decades following the end of the Second World War, Auschwitz (especially Auschwitz-Birkenau) and Majdanek (Lublin) were generally regarded as the really important "death camps."

 

For example, the Allies alleged at Nuremberg that the Germans killed four million at Auschwitz and another 1.5 million at Majdanek. Today, no reputable historian accepts these fantastic figures. In addition, more and more striking evidence has been presented in recent years which simply cannot be reconciled with the allegations of mass exterminations at these camps.

 

For example, detailed aerial reconnaissance photographs taken of Auschwitz-Birkenau on several random days in 1944 (during the height of the alleged extermination period there) were made public by the CIA in 1979. They show no trace of the piles of corpses, smoking chimneys and masses of Jews awaiting death, all of which have been alleged and would have been clearly visible if Auschwitz had indeed been an extermination center. We now also know that the postwar "confessions" of Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Hess, which is a crucial part of the Holocaust extermination story, was obtained by torture. (Rupert Butler, "Legions of Death" (England: 1983), pp. 235-237, and R. Faurisson, "Journal of Historical Review", Winter 1986-1987, pp. 389-403.)

[Maldini]

Other Absurd Holocaust Claims

 

At one time it was also seriously claimed that the Germans exterminated Jews with electricity and steam, and that they manufactured soap from Jewish corpses. For example, at Nuremberg the United States charged that the Germans killed Jews at Treblinka, not in gas chambers, as is now claimed, but by steaming them to death in "steam chambers" (Nuremberg document PS-3311 (USA-293). IMT blue series, Vol. 32, pp. 153-158; IMT, Vol 3, pp. 566-568.; NMT green series, Vol. 5, pp. 1133, 1134.) These bizarre stories have also been quietly abandoned in recent years.

[huntjd]

lol maldini. the cheif rabbi of britain is not jakobvits.

 

hahahaha. its a man called sir jonathon sacks who came to speak to my school last week and i guarantee he would never notion such an issue.

 

have you ever been to one of the camps maldini? even stepped foot outside of your oasis that is your world of egypt where your immams dictate your inner morals.

 

learn you fool. the holocaust did happen.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Maldini you trying to prove extremely well documented history backed with tons of facts didnt happen...you just dont get it, not many people outside of your little world believe in your wishful thinking. Most the world knows for a fact the holocaust happened.

 

You try to make history work for your politica views, if you dont like it or does not fit your views, you change it.

[Maldini]

lol maldini. the cheif rabbi of britain is not jakobvits.

 

hahahaha. its a man called sir jonathon sacks who came to speak to my school last week and i guarantee he would never notion such an issue.

 

have you ever been to one of the camps maldini? even stepped foot outside of your oasis that is your world of egypt where your immams dictate your inner morals.

 

learn you fool. the holocaust did happen.

 

Hey Mr. genius I know it and I know he died at 1999

 

I think you forget that I talking about documented history

 

He was the cheif of rabbi before, from 1967 to 1991 [ hope you didn't denied it ]

 

I don't live in oasis and maybe I know your history more than you

[Maldini]

lol maldini. the cheif rabbi of britain is not jakobvits.

 

hahahaha. its a man called sir jonathon sacks who came to speak to my school last week and i guarantee he would never notion such an issue.

 

have you ever been to one of the camps maldini? even stepped foot outside of your oasis that is your world of egypt where your immams dictate your inner morals.

 

learn you fool. the holocaust did happen.

 

 

By the way, is that all what you can talk about it? I think you can't stand against all these evidence and what I will bring later will be more stronger than these

 

Poor boy

[Maldini]

Himmler's SS and the Camps

 

Jews were an important part of Germany's wartime labor force, and it was in Germany's interest to keep them alive. The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated Dec. 28, 1942, to every concentration camp, including Auschwitz. It sharply criticized the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and ordered that "camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to significantly reduce the death rate in the various camps." Furthermore, it ordered:"The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the nutrition of the prisoners and, in cooperation with the administration, submit improvement recommendations to the camp commandants. . . The camp doctors are to see to it that the working conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as possible." Finally, the directive stressed that "The Reichsfuhrer SS [Heinrich Himmler] has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced." (Nuremberg document PS-2171, Annex 2; NC&A red series, Vol. 4, pp. 833-834). The head of the SS department that supervised the concentration camps, Richard Glucks, sent a circular letter to each camp commandant dated January 20, 1943. In it he ordered: "As I have already pointed out, every means must be used to lower the death rate in the camp." (Nuremberg document NO-1523; NMT green series, Vol. 5, pp. 372-373)