The Facts Finally Revealed [ Part 2 ]

[coldplaying]

Jews were subjected to a horrible genocide during the WW II by the nazis. millions of Jews and other people of different nations became the target of this brutality...

 

however, using the fact of the holocaust with the purpose of legitimising the crimes committed by zionism and the state of israel against humanity is rather wrong..

[Matter-Eater Lad]

holocuost crime against humanity what about masscres which isleal did in plastine and labonon????

 

The massacre? They didnt go out to just kill innocent people. they died in a war. Unlike with the holocuast they died not because ofa war(during a wary) but because of genocide and on a much larger scale then those who died in lebanon. 900 vs 6,000,000.

[brandon313]

Though i dont agree with waht Israel did in Lebanon, All you seem to be able to do is try and blame other people when your bogus facts are disproven....i showed you up once and then all you did was blame the allies for ONE questionable action. Hunt disproved you and all you had to back you up was "what about israel??!?!?!" We are not talking about Israel here, we are talking about the obvious genocide commited by the Nazi regime between the years 1939-and 1945. So stop trying to divert attention everytime you get told.:veryangry2:

[Maldini]

i am facing it right now.

 

you really are quite the douche. i actually feel sorry for you living in a country where you have been brainwashed since you were born... and your elections are rigged. pity the fool. fool=maldini

 

heres some facts, straight from my holocaust studies book last year:

 

-ashes and bodies have been identified using dna to prove they were jewish. argue that.

-millions of jewish families lost family members... if it was a setup, how is it even remotely possible to organise the dissapperance of 6 million people. the only way to do so is to kill them

-people from camps have tatoos to prove ther were there

-righteous gentile, yes thats non-jews! hid jews like anne frank during the holocasut because they knew what atrocities the nazis were commiting

-surviving sonderkammando (jews who were forced to work in the crematorium and gas chambers by the nazis) saw what happened and have testified.

-nazi records show names of jews killed and the plan for the final solution

 

and the final nail in you coffin...

- i have family who were killed in the holocaust. can't argue with that ey?

 

so next time you open your mouth or fingers on a keyboard, mutilating our eyes and eyes with such irrepresenshible slander, know your facts and get something better to do than try to conspirize somethjing that is a proven fact. end of story maldini. you are wrong. very very wrong.

 

if you continue to propagate such absolute bullshit on this website, i, along with other jewish coldplayers as well as pretty much every coldplayer besides your brainwashed friend el masry, will report you to the administration.

 

 

Do you really think is these things look like evidence?

In fact every time I read the evidence of people who belive in Holocaust,feel how they are in bad and fragile situation and know how I in strong situation

You didn't reply my points.Look how you reply the points.Look how I will reply

 

 

1- There is no DNA did to recognize the bodies

 

2- There is no millions families lost members and there is no 6 milions Jews died

 

3- There is easy to bring people and told them they should saying that they were there,and I know eyewitnesses said there is no genocide did there

 

4- There is no official documents mentioned the Holocaust

 

5- I can bring family and told you that they were there and there isn't genocide happened

 

6- Go and till the admin because I know he knowing the Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Opinion

[Maldini]

thanks for the support rick.

 

el masry. the last line goes out to you too. shut ur mouth on this issue too.

 

the facts are conclusive. other deniers are bogus historians (irving has and always well be an anti-semite, even before he published his holocaust denial).

 

your facts are wrong and you know it. and you know 6 million jews along with gypsies as weel as disabled people and homosexuals also were murdered in the holocaust. so stop immeadiately

 

 

Face the facts by facts,not facts by jail

[EL MASRY]

he didt hav facts to face you he just brianwashed and replay by he was brainwash...

[General Smut]

Well the camps were quite a secretive thing, many Germans who lived nearby had no idea what was going on there!

 

There is no Nazi documents about the holocaust - but you will masses and masses of documents on the final solution

 

This eyewitness of yours - wouldnt happen to be Arab would he? and your family who deny the holocaust as well theyre Arab as well? mmm and who are the Arabs enemys - the Jews.

 

What on earth are they teaching you in Egypt???

[Maldini]

Its on the subject

 

 

If you want to discuss something on the subject lets talk about Nuremberg Trials [ The Comedy Trials ]

[Maldini]

Well the camps were quite a secretive thing, many Germans who lived nearby had no idea what was going on there!

 

There is no Nazi documents about the holocaust - but you will masses and masses of documents on the final solution

 

This eyewitness of yours - wouldnt happen to be Arab would he? and your family who deny the holocaust as well theyre Arab as well? mmm and who are the Arabs enemys - the Jews.

 

What on earth are they teaching you in Egypt???

 

 

The Final Solution not to kill Jews it's to migrate them

 

My eyewitness iS french one [ Paul Rassinier ]

[General Smut]

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/final+solution

 

The Madagascar plan

 

Main article: Madagascar Plan

 

 

At first, vague plans were made in Nazi Germany to ship all European Jews to Madagascar. Adolf Eichmann, in particular, supported this option before the 1942 Wannsee Conference where he was told what the "Final Solution" was to be. SS chief Heinrich Himmler stated, "However cruel and tragic each individual case may be, this method is still the mildest and best, if one rejects the Bolshevik method of physical extermination of a people out of inner conviction as un-German and impossible." ("Madagascar Plan" in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, 1990) The plan was to use the British navy after Britain's defeat. However, when the British were not defeated as expected, the Madagascar Plan had to be abandoned.

 

 

The so-called "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" (German "Endlösung der Judenfrage") refers to the German Nazis' plan to engage in systematic genocide against the European Jewish population during World War II. The term was coined by Adolf Eichmann, a top Nazi official who supervised the genocidal campaign and was tried and executed by Israeli authorities in 1961-62. The implementation of the Final Solution resulted in the most deadly phase of the Holocaust. The expression itself is a typical occurrence of the Nazi newspeak, which made of the Jewish European population a "question" and a "problem" although in reality the only "problem" was the Nazis' will to annihilate them.

 

Mass killings of over one million Jews occurred before the plans of the Final Solution were fully implemented in 1942, but it was only with the decision to eradicate the entire Jewish population that the extermination camps were built and industrialized mass slaughter of Jews began in earnest. This decision to systematically kill the Jews of Europe was made by the time of, or at the Wannsee conference, which took place in Berlin, in the Wannsee Villa on January 20, 1942. During the conference there was a discussion held by a group of Nazi officials to decide on the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question". The records and minutes of this meeting were found intact by the Allies at the end of the war and served as valuable evidence during the Nuremberg Trials. By spring of 1942, Operation Reinhard began the systematic extermination of the Jews, although hundreds of thousands had already been killed by death squads and in mass programs.

[Maldini]

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/final+solution

 

The Madagascar plan

 

Main article: Madagascar Plan

 

 

At first, vague plans were made in Nazi Germany to ship all European Jews to Madagascar. Adolf Eichmann, in particular, supported this option before the 1942 Wannsee Conference where he was told what the "Final Solution" was to be. SS chief Heinrich Himmler stated, "However cruel and tragic each individual case may be, this method is still the mildest and best, if one rejects the Bolshevik method of physical extermination of a people out of inner conviction as un-German and impossible." ("Madagascar Plan" in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, 1990) The plan was to use the British navy after Britain's defeat. However, when the British were not defeated as expected, the Madagascar Plan had to be abandoned.

 

 

The so-called "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" (German "Endlösung der Judenfrage") refers to the German Nazis' plan to engage in systematic genocide against the European Jewish population during World War II. The term was coined by Adolf Eichmann, a top Nazi official who supervised the genocidal campaign and was tried and executed by Israeli authorities in 1961-62. The implementation of the Final Solution resulted in the most deadly phase of the Holocaust. The expression itself is a typical occurrence of the Nazi newspeak, which made of the Jewish European population a "question" and a "problem" although in reality the only "problem" was the Nazis' will to annihilate them.

 

Mass killings of over one million Jews occurred before the plans of the Final Solution were fully implemented in 1942, but it was only with the decision to eradicate the entire Jewish population that the extermination camps were built and industrialized mass slaughter of Jews began in earnest. This decision to systematically kill the Jews of Europe was made by the time of, or at the Wannsee conference, which took place in Berlin, in the Wannsee Villa on January 20, 1942. During the conference there was a discussion held by a group of Nazi officials to decide on the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question". The records and minutes of this meeting were found intact by the Allies at the end of the war and served as valuable evidence during the Nuremberg Trials. By spring of 1942, Operation Reinhard began the systematic extermination of the Jews, although hundreds of thousands had already been killed by death squads and in mass programs.

 

 

Don't go and bring facts and information from Zionist site

[huntjd]

Do you really think is these things look like evidence?

In fact every time I read the evidence of people who belive in Holocaust,feel how they are in bad and fragile situation and know how I in strong situation

You didn't reply my points.Look how you reply the points.Look how I will reply

 

 

1- There is no DNA did to recognize the bodies

 

2- There is no millions families lost members and there is no 6 milions Jews died

 

3- There is easy to bring people and told them they should saying that they were there,and I know eyewitnesses said there is no genocide did there

 

4- There is no official documents mentioned the Holocaust

 

5- I can bring family and told you that they were there and there isn't genocide happened

 

6- Go and till the admin because I know he knowing the Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Opinion

 

firstly. what you are saying violates freedom of speech as it blatantly vilifies others.

 

-DNA can be taken from ashes, hair and compared to that of family members that survived. who are you to tell me i don't know about DNA testing?!

-there were 6 million jews who died. if not how do you explain them existing before the nazis drafted the final solution, and then dissapperaing of the face of the planet? thats right! aliens must have come! you douche

- provide evidence. i have names of people who testified being there. eichmann even admitted to what happened in the camps

- there are official documents from the holocaust. why else would the nazis give tatoos to replace names? because it was easier for them to file!

-and whose your family? some fucking egyptian person who was never in the holocaust or within a thousand kilometers of the camps

 

and the admin will be informed tomorrow morning as soon as i wake up. i will even create a poll thread as a petition against what you are saying.

 

you know what you are? a pathetic little worm... you have no humanity justice or any form of recognisable human trait. you're just disgusting...

[General Smut]

Wikipedia is not a zionist site.

 

Geez

 

Do you even know what a zionist is?

[Maldini]

firstly. what you are saying violates freedom of speech as it blatantly vilifies others.

 

-DNA can be taken from ashes, hair and compared to that of family members that survived. who are you to tell me i don't know about DNA testing?!

-there were 6 million jews who died. if not how do you explain them existing before the nazis drafted the final solution, and then dissapperaing of the face of the planet? thats right! aliens must have come! you douche

- provide evidence. i have names of people who testified being there. eichmann even admitted to what happened in the camps

- there are official documents from the holocaust. why else would the nazis give tatoos to replace names? because it was easier for them to file!

-and whose your family? some fucking egyptian person who was never in the holocaust or within a thousand kilometers of the camps

 

and the admin will be informed tomorrow morning as soon as i wake up. i will even create a poll thread as a petition against what you are saying.

 

you know what you are? a pathetic little worm... you have no humanity justice or any form of recognisable human trait. you're just disgusting...

 

 

I know that they can make DNA tests from anything but prove to me that it done

 

Who said that was 6 milions of Jews died.Did you read the Theory of Numbers

 

 

The Final solution was to make the Jews immigrat from Germany because killing them consider as wasting of power

 

 

Look,I allow to everyone to insult me,but more than this I can't accept it

[Maldini]

Wikipedia is not a zionist site.

 

Geez

 

Do you even know what a zionist is?

 

Who told you that?

[huntjd]

good don't accept it.

 

i don't accept you insulting the memory of millions of murdered people. my people.

 

its only what you deserve.

[General Smut]

I know that they can make DNA tests from anything but prove to me that it done

 

Who said that was 6 milions of Jews died.Did you read the Theory of Numbers

 

 

The Final solution was to make the Jews immigrat from Germany because killing them consider as wasting of power

 

 

Look,I allow to everyone to insult me,but more than this I can't accept it

 

They couldnt deport them thou - they didnt have control of the sea. What were they supposed to do? March them thousands of miles from Germany to the East coast of Africa? which wouldve involved kicking the brits out of the mid east and egypt.

[huntjd]

HERE IS THE THREAD TO SIGN AS A PETITION OF COMPLAINT AGAINST THIS THREAD AND HOLOCAUST DENIAL ON COLDPLAYING TO BE SUBMITTED TO ADMIN:

 

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34090

[Maldini]

They couldnt deport them thou - they didnt have control of the sea. What were they supposed to do? March them thousands of miles from Germany to the East coast of Africa? which wouldve involved kicking the brits out of the mid east and egypt.

 

 

No many of them immigrated to Russia,Britain,Palestine and USA

[General Smut]

good don't accept it.

 

i don't accept you insulting the memory of millions of murdered people. my people.

 

its only what you deserve.

 

To be honest the blokes an idiot, but i do think the time when people stop asking questions about the holocaust is a time when we have stepped back as society.

i think 60 years on, we do need to remind ourselves what happened. i myself have learned several new things whilst reading this thread that i did not know before.

[General Smut]

No many of them immigrated to Russia' date='Britain,Palestine and USA[/quote']

 

Alot did of their own free will before the war. and lots were captured in Russia and Poland.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

I know that they can make DNA tests from anything but prove to me that it done

 

Who said that was 6 milions of Jews died.Did you read the Theory of Numbers

 

 

The Final solution was to make the Jews immigrat from Germany because killing them consider as wasting of power

 

 

Look,I allow to everyone to insult me,but more than this I can't accept it

 

Dude the amount of killed was backed up by records.....its been proven 6 million were killed.

[coldplaying]

although i know (or want to believe) that maldini and el masry do not want to be offensive, i find this discussion needless... they know something about the holocaust but i believe they're wrong... they can of course share their ideas here but when it begins to be offensive to someones and becomes an unsolvable problem it should be stopped in my opinion..

 

freedom of speech? what's it? to be able to speak everything everywhere? if so.. i don't support it.. if you hurt someone you shouldn't do it..apparently there are people here who are offended from this issue, very much..and their families and relatives are involved..you may discuss this issue on some other forums i'm sure there are loads of them where you can freely discuss the holocaust and you won't hurt anyone.. so why to continue this non-ending discussion?? neither sides seem to change their opinions...besides those insults... they're simply unnecessary...

 

i won't sign that petition because i'm not against holocaust denial.. i mean they can discuss they can write their thoughts, yet when it begins to be offensive they should stop there..

 

so finally a friendly advice to el masry and maldini: stop writing about holocaust denial...you've stated (both sides) what you know and what you think...isn't it enough? it's already begun to be repetitive and sometimes off-topic also...

[brandon313]

i love how when someone else uses wikipedia you call it "zionist" yet your "facts" about the allied bombing of dresden CAME FROM WIKIPEDIA!!!!!!!!!!! you are a fucking hipocrite

[Denise]

Talk...talk...talk...I've been to see the Auschwitz and Birchenhau..words are not as much powerful as what you see with your eyes

 

basing one's opinion only on books (or in this case wikipedia..by the way anyone could have written those things, but they can be completely made up imo) it's just too easy.

I'm not discussing about numbers which don't say anything, I'm just giving my point of view according to what I've seen and what I felt inside the two camps.

 

Just one final thing..I don't even understand why this thread was started...by the way :confused: