Initially after World War II, there were millions of members of families broken up by the war or the Holocaust searching for some record of the fate and/or whereabouts of their missing friends and relatives. These efforts became much less intense as the years went by. More recently, however, there has a been a resurgence of interest by descendants of Holocaust survivors in researching the fates of their lost relatives. Yad Vashem provides a searchable database of three million names, about half of the known direct Jewish victims. Yad Vashem's Central Database of Shoah Victims Names is searchable over the Internet at http://www.yadvashem.org or in person at the Yad Vashem complex in Israel.

 

Other databases and lists of victims' names, some searchable over the Web, are listed in Holocaust (resources).

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The 1941 massacre at Babi Yar was similar to many other mass murders of Jews. Over 33,000 Jews were shot in the course of two days by Nazi Einsatzgruppen and local Ukrainian forces.

 

 

Who was directly involved in the mass murder?

A wide range of German soldiers, officials, and civilians were involved in the Holocaust, from clerks and officials in the government to units of the army, the police, and the SS. Many ministries, including those of armaments, interior, justice, railroads, and foreign affairs, had substantial roles in orchestrating the Holocaust; similarly, German physicians participated in medical experiments and the T-4 euthanasia program. And, though there was no single military unit in charge of the Holocaust, the SS under Himmler was the closest. From the SS came the Totenkopfverbände concentration camp guards, the Einsatzgruppen killing squads, and many of the administrative offices behind the Holocaust. The Wehrmacht, or regular German army, participated directly less than the SS in the Holocaust (though it did directly massacre Jews in Russia, Serbia, Poland, and Greece), but it supported the Einsatzgruppen, helped form the ghettos, ran prison camps, some were concentration camp guards, transported prisoners to camps, had experiments performed on prisoners, and used substantial slave labor. German police units also directly participated in the Holocaust, for example Reserve Police Battalion 101 in just over a year shot 38,000 Jews and deported 45,000 more to the extermination camps.[18]

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Yes Yes I know all those stories

And you still dismiss them and dont believe?

He thinks they were faked, all the pictures and videos were "Faked" by the jews. Which would be impossible since they couldnt make up videos back then or doctor images that well

do you believes by aliens.

mr cool

I've had enough.

 

Look, I'm all for freedom of speech and junk, but if it gets to the point where an open forum of opinion turns borderline violent, it's time to stop. You two are obviously outnumbered and if you ask me, no one is going to believe you any time soon. But the same goes for us. Just like they refuse to be swayed by our facts, so do we refuse to be swayed by theirs. We could argue until we're blue in the face but the Holocaust deniers will still believe the Holocaust never existed and we'll still believe it did. What's the point in arguing?

do you believes by aliens.

mr cool

 

No

How does something as disgusting as this even warrent a reply?

 

 

 

I have respect for freedom of thought and speech. But not when it comes to this. Not this.

So freedom of speech should only be if it does not offend you?

 

I admit this is sick, they are sick but just becuase of that they still have a right to say it.

 

what happens if your beliefs are not popular but considered sick by the majority? should they take away your right to speech?

So freedom of speech should only be if it does not offend you?

 

I admit this is sick, they are sick but just becuase of that they still have a right to say it.

 

what happens if your beliefs are not popular but considered sick by the majority? should they take away your right to speech?

Aye, there are all kinds of crazy people there who believe all sorts.

All hail Emperor Norton, thats what I say

No

iam too

but there is many photos and videos proof that and many ppl saw aliens and there many evidence make it true

iam too

but there is many photos and videos proof that and many ppl saw aliens and there many evidence make it true

 

No, there are very blurry photos and vidoes from the MODERN DAY of this still in very bad quality.

 

People did not have the technology to fake photos back then, and we have modern ways of knowing if photo's are faked....

 

so for the holocaust we have thousands of videos and pictures, clearly showing what happened along with hundreds of thousands of whitnesses and thousands of documents....

 

and you compare that to a few blurry video tapes?

hahaha el masry. you didnt bring in aliens till i mentioned it. it was sarcasm...

aliens didnt take jews. they were killed by the nazis. all 6 million of them.

el masry. if 6 millions werent killed, where did they go? they had records of them before the war and the people were gone afterwards...did the goverment hide them away?

So freedom of speech should only be if it does not offend you?

 

I admit this is sick, they are sick but just becuase of that they still have a right to say it.

 

what happens if your beliefs are not popular but considered sick by the majority? should they take away your right to speech?

 

 

God, you're always so freakin' defensive. All the time.

 

 

I said "respect". I know that there's freedom of speech. And I know that everyone is going to excercise this right. I didn't insinuate that that should be taken away. I'm saying that these people, they do not hold ANY respect with me. None whatsoever.

God, you're always so freakin' defensive. All the time.

 

 

I said "respect". I know that there's freedom of speech. And I know that everyone is going to excercise this right. I didn't insinuate that that should be taken away. I'm saying that these people, they do not hold ANY respect with me. None whatsoever.

 

Defending free speech.

el masry. if 6 millions werent killed' date=' where did they go? they had records of them before the war and the people were gone afterwards...did the goverment hide them away?[/quote']

 

 

Who said that was 6 million killed? did the was live with you and someday you wake up and find them gone

Defending free speech.

 

Good,very good buddy

I want to talk about

 

 

Nuremberg Trials [ Comedy Trials ]

somethnig about massacres in german

(Bromberg Bloody Sunday)

http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm

I want to talk about

 

 

Nuremberg Trials [ Comedy Trials ]

what is it?

If you havent heard of the Nuremburg trials then you have no idea at all about History. Which we've proven in other threads.

 

For the record- They were unjust, the Soviets did bad things, The brits did bad things, everyone did bad things but the Germans copped it all.

 

Several Nazis were executed for what their allied equilvants did and several more went to jail when they should never have gone.

 

Most people on trial deserved what they got however. - Death.

in a nutshell, most of the leading officials who had severe ties to Nazi war crimes had shot themselves, because 1, they knew they stood no chance of survival, and 2 they would rather take their own life than admit to their crimes. So i ask you this, why would high ranking officers in the Deaths head SS, Waffen SS, leibstandarte, and other Nazi organizations, shoot themselves instead of being captured? Most of the men put on trial were not guilty of war crimes, but were ,none the less, "Germans". (that was the outlook of that time. ALL germans were bad, we know now that isnt true, but back then it was)

 

SOMEONE had to be convicted for these crimes. The world was screaming for answers and most of the people responsible, Heinrich Himmler, Reinhardt Heydrich, and Goebbels. Himmler came up with the idea, Heydrich came up with the plans, how to do it, and carried it out (known as the butcher of prague), and Goebbels covered it up with his propaganda. All of these men are dead before they can be prosecuted.

 

 

The ones who shot themselves had SOMETHING to hide. Its like burning the evidence that is going to convict you. Except their evidence was already exposed and they could not hide.