sunshine Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I seriously don’t know where to start…but I feel obligated to do this and that it's the least I can do to support their case. I don’t know what you know and what you get by the media…but I'm going to show you what's going on there, And maybe the other side of the story. It's been 7 days for Gaza under the fire…425 died and 2200 got injured...lots of them are children. More than Fifteen million US dollars given by US taxpayers to Israel each day for their military use 4 billion US dollars per year. no food is allowed to get through to Gaza...no medicine or medical teams. And not just since this week, it's been going on for months. Palestinians gather to the rubble of a mosque after it was hit in an Israeli missile strike in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip. They're criminals and cowards…today they have been spreading papers that is addressed to the people of Gaza, asking them reveal the location of Hamas's leaders. And here in the Middle east people have been trying to demonstrate against the mass destruction in Gaza...but in Egypt the police prevented people from praying in mosques. and in lots of other countries Demonstrators were beaten for no reason...where the hell is our right to express ourselves. Even journalists have been attacked and admitted to hospitals. I'll be posting new updates whenever I can...there's lots that needs to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 All over a silly imaginary "border" and a couple of 2000 year old fairy-tales. Also, American taxpayers didn't "give" anybody anything. The money was taken from then and distributed to Israel by the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlene_Ihnfsa Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 All over a silly imaginary "border" and a couple of 2000 year old fairy-tales. you are right, and i fear that it will never end :\ :bigcry: so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudy_o Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 All over a silly imaginary "border" and a couple of 2000 year old fairy-tales. Also, American taxpayers didn't "give" anybody anything. The money was taken from then and distributed to Israel by the government. It's about a right...and nobody should stop demanding for it...plus no one ever tolerate keeping their people in hunger and poor electricity and no gas or fuel when the weather is freezing...despite all the killing and poor medical care! and I didn't say that taxpayers wanted to give it to Israel...but they can disagree and do something to show the government that they don't want their money to go that criminals and murderers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 you are right, and i fear that it will never end :\ :bigcry: so sad. It won't end because they've made it clear they will not live as long as the other side is still alive. You can't have peace when one side wants the over one completely gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 It won't end because they've made it clear they will not live as long as the other side is still alive. You can't have peace when one side wants the over one completely gone. who do you think wants the other side completely gone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 who do you think wants the other side completely gone?? Well Palestinian terrorist have gone on record saying this....so I'll let you take a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 Well Palestinian terrorist have gone on record saying this....so I'll let you take a guess. well what do you have to say about all the daily Arrests of civilians who do not have arms or weapons... and the continuing blockades on Palestinian cities ... and dozens of people dying every day most of them are children and women and civilians?? are they also terrorists?? or do Israel want all of the Palestinians killed? If all of that happened to you wouldn't you want the ones who did it completely gone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 well what do you have to say about all the daily Arrests of civilians who do not have arms or weapons... and the continuing blockades on Palestinian cities ... and dozens of people dying every day most of them are children and women and civilians?? are they also terrorists?? or do Israel want all of the Palestinians killed? If all of that happened to you wouldn't you want the ones who did it completely gone?? All I said is one side has admitted to wanting to other one completely destroyed. I cannot speak for a side that to my knowledge has not said that. The Palestinians are puppets of the Arab nations who use them as shields against Israel. They are victims of both sides. There are tons of innocents dying on both sides, is one side more worthy then the other? Is a innocent dead Jew not equal to a innocent dead Arab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 All I said is one side has admitted to wanting to other one completely destroyed. I cannot speak for a side that to my knowledge has not said that. do they have to admit it?? their actions says it out loud...and I don't think they're brave enough to admit anything. The Palestinians are puppets of the Arab nations who use them as shields against Israel. They are victims of both sides. I'm not sure what you mean by that...but I can assure you that it's the Arab governments not all the nation. The people disagrees completely and are ready to do anything to stop this...but the governments barely allow them to talk about the subject. actually the Arabs are all in this together...Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and they've already started on Syria. It's most likely that the other countries are next. There are tons of innocents dying on both sides, is one side more worthy then the other? Is a innocent dead Jew not equal to a innocent dead Arab? Let's be real...over the last 7 days almost 430 Palestinians died and 2200 have been injured, How many Israeli are dead?? and let's look at the sophisticated weapons and equipment they have. and the poor weapons that Palestinians have. It's against every law in the world and the human mind doesn't accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 So you answer is a muslim or Arab life is worth more. We cannot have peace until you look at people as people, not as religion or ethnic groups or race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 The Palestinians are most culpable for teaching their children to hate Jews, thus ensuring the continuation of the war into the next generation. I don't see the same sort of thing happening on Israel's side. But the Jews are most culpable for their constant overreaction and "woe-is-me" justification for bombing the Palestinians into the stone age. Let's face it: Israel is basing its foreign policy on a straightforward retaliatory plan, rather than focusing on defense first and foremost. The fact they receive billions of dollars from the US every year only gives them incentive to keep the conflict going longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felicote Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 All I said is one side has admitted to wanting to other one completely destroyed. I cannot speak for a side that to my knowledge has not said that. The Palestinians are puppets of the Arab nations who use them as shields against Israel. They are victims of both sides. There are tons of innocents dying on both sides, is one side more worthy then the other? Is a innocent dead Jew not equal to a innocent dead Arab? what the Hamas organization or other terrorist groups say is not what the palestinians think in general, they just have the louder voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 So you answer is a Muslim or Arab life is worth more. We cannot have peace until you look at people as people, not as religion or ethnic groups or race. when did I say that?? :thinking: not at all...no one should die. but Israel cant do these things and expect everything to be ok...they should all stop and live in peace not say that they're in peace when the people in Gaza are dying of hunger and freezing to death because they wont let anything get in to gaza. did you get my point now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 The Palestinians are most culpable for teaching their children to hate Jews, thus ensuring the continuation of the war into the next generation. I don't see the same sort of thing happening on Israel's side. They don't teach them to hate Jews...but when they see "Israel" killing people of their country and destroying their homes every day for years...do you expect them to like Israel?? and jews do hates us...not all of them but a lot of them and they do teach their children to hate all Arabs. maybe you dont know it but they do...they think they are better than us and that we're not worthy of the land of palestine. all the other things you said...I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 The Palestinians are most culpable for teaching their children to hate Jews, thus ensuring the continuation of the war into the next generation. I don't see the same sort of thing happening on Israel's side. They don't teach them to hate Jews...but when they see "Israel" killing people of their country and destroying their homes every day for years...do you expect them to like Israel?? and jews do hates us...not all of them but a lot of them and they do teach their children to hate all Arabs. maybe you dont know it but they do...they think they are better than us and that we're not worthy of the land of palestine. all the other things you said...I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grids Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 i cant stop crying when i see this :bigcry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 It's so sad and upsetting and that's why we should do everything we can to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hamas and the other terrorist groups can't do what they do and expect everything to be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 mrcool you're not getting what I'm saying. If you look at what's going on...whenever they do smth they do it in return of smth that Israel is doing...Hamas is in charge of Gaza...they have been elected by the people. they do what they do to ensure that the people in Gaza have food and medical care...a decent life like all human beings deserve. when they do smth out of the blew and for no apparent reason then it's completely wrong and unacceptable. and notice that I'm not talking about all the terrorist groups...I'm just talking about Hamas and the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 mrcool you're not getting what I'm saying. If you look at what's going on...whenever they do smth they do it in return of smth that Israel is doing...Hamas is in charge of Gaza...they have been elected by the people. they do what they do to ensure that the people in Gaza have food and medical care...a decent life like all human beings deserve. when they do smth out of the blew and for no apparent reason then it's completely wrong and unacceptable. and notice that I'm not talking about all the terrorist groups...I'm just talking about Hamas and the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I'm getting exactly what you're saying and it's scary and the same mindset that will never let anyone end this. You and Hamas supporters are just as bad as Israel. Both sides are doing the same thing, yet one side is allowed to do it? Hmmm sounds like a lot of bull shit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 no I still don't think you get what I'm saying. would you tell me what you think should happen that will end this? I'd like to hear it...you might convince me. and when hundreds of lives are taken and other hundreds in danger I don't think it's a lot of bull shit. I don't want them killed I want them to stop!! just stop and not just the killing and the destruction...they should stop any kind of abuse...stop the siege...let the food and medical care in...when the people in Gaza have the life you and I have then it's going to be over...but I don't think Israel will ever give them that?? do you?? just as we speak the attacks are getting worse I've just seen on the TV a rocket that weighs a Ton and a half that have been fired to a completely civilian area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnspieler1012 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 mrcool you're not getting what I'm saying. If you look at what's going on...whenever they do smth they do it in return of smth that Israel is doing...Hamas is in charge of Gaza...they have been elected by the people. they do what they do to ensure that the people in Gaza have food and medical care...a decent life like all human beings deserve. ...they also recently fired 400 missiles straight into israel. During the conflict a few years ago, Israel took means to warn civilians nearby the missile sites they were aiming at before firing. hamas targeted civilians (sometimes through suicide bombings) and then cried out when palestinians got hurt. I find it very hard to sympathize with a group that denies the holocaust, promotes terrorism and demonizes jews. and worse, acts upon those principles. when they do smth out of the blew and for no apparent reason then it's completely wrong and unacceptable. and notice that I'm not talking about all the terrorist groups...I'm just talking about Hamas and the current situation. at least you acknowledge that Hamas is a terrorist group... I don't mean to paint Israel in white but it's annoying to see hamas so sugar-coated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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