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I may have written a thread saying I didn't like Radiohead, but I compare them to such shite in music and I praise that Radiohead are around. Such music includes club music. Yes people like Basshunter and co deserve to be sent to prison for their crimes on music. I mean what saddo has that sort of music on their Ipods?? They have no inkling of what music is like if they listen to such shite like that. I was appalled last summer when I found out Viva La Vida had been knocked off the top spot of the album charts by that talentless knob! Thankfully the guys re took the spot a week later!

 

What else? Oh yeah! Slipknot and other heavy metal bands! Sorry but what is that all meant to be about? Some guy angrily screaming into a microphone accompanied by some guitar being destroyed. Is that what constitutes music?? Chris Martin once said people who listen to this sort of music have "bad relationships with their parents". That is pretty extreme by Chris's modest standards! You have to look at their fans and two words come to mind - social rejects. You kind of feel sorry for these bands and their fans.

 

Oh yeah and then there's rap and r'n'b. I couldn't give two shits about that sort of music. Some guy singing about guns and "ho's". Yeah, great deal of respect to women isn't it.

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All right. Please be quiet. There is no such thing as a "crime againt music" -- only personal taste and difference in opinion. Don't go around trolling different bands for any reason. It's only going to result in hard feelings -- and what's more, it's not going to make one ounce of difference to anything except for make everyone who reads this thread grumpy and angry at people for the rest of the day. There is absolutely no reason to go around smearing shit on anybody's (or any band's) names.

 

For example right now I must restrain myself from telling you exactly what R'N'B music is about (not guns and ho, by the way). Obviously I didn't completely restrain myself but I did manage to not go on a page-long rant about why your tastes in music are so much different/worse than mine. I don't do that because there's no value in it. Please just try to stay nice -- what they say about "if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" is really true, all right, and I would appreciate it if everyone here and across the world would take that to heart.

 

Thank you very much.

 

[gets off soapbox]

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I dislike some of the music you described, but even more, I dislike your generalizations towards things like rap and R&B (which stands for rythm and blues) and most of all your idea that such things don't "constitute music". I take every chance I get to battle that sort of musical elitism. Of course they constitute music. It doesn't take a music appreciation course to understand that "music" doesn't necessarily imply something that the listener enjoys, nor does it exclude the absurdly minimalist, vulgar, or painfully dissonant.

 

Mind you, I'm not a relativist. There's no problem with anyone believing one musical creation to be superior or more beautiful than others, but "music" encompasses all types of organized (or in some cases disorganized) sound. It doesn't mean they're all equal, but they're all music.

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All right. Please be quiet. There is no such thing as a "crime againt music" -- only personal taste and difference in opinion. Don't go around trolling different bands for any reason. It's only going to result in hard feelings -- and what's more, it's not going to make one ounce of difference to anything except for make everyone who reads this thread grumpy and angry at people for the rest of the day. There is absolutely no reason to go around smearing shit on anybody's (or any band's) names.

 

For example right now I must restrain myself from telling you exactly what R'N'B music is about (not guns and ho, by the way). Obviously I didn't completely restrain myself but I did manage to not go on a page-long rant about why your tastes in music are so much different/worse than mine. I don't do that because there's no value in it. Please just try to stay nice -- what they say about "if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" is really true, all right, and I would appreciate it if everyone here and across the world would take that to heart.

 

Thank you very much.

 

[gets off soapbox]

 

Just because Chris Martin endorses it doesn't mean that it's good. Gererally I believe I have a better taste in music than most of my friends. You said it's all about what people's tastes are. But it's also about how valuable these tastes are for crying out loud! For example I could say that West Brom are just as good as Manchester United, when I know they aren't. Everything in this world has value factor, so I suggest you stop being such a PC idiot.

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What the hell?? Where the fuck did that come from???? "Just because Chris Martin endorses it..." Where the fuck did you get that? Do you seriously think you can just assume that a person is blindly following the advice of a frontman of a band they like just because they disagree with you? What the hell, man? Please tell me exactly what I said to spur you on to saying that, please.

 

Music isn't about that. I actually agree with you on your statement that Slipknot and (most) rap is shit, but I don't go around starting topics about how shit they are!! There are people who find value in their music and they deserve to be left alone -- there are Radiohead fans who think Coldplay is shit and Slipknot fans that think Pink Floyd is shit and variable x fans that think band ABCD is shit, and on and on. There's no reason to fucking debate about it. Listen to the music you like and leave other people and their tastes alone. Jesus!

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Yeah understandably so.

But I mean he thinks that I know nothing about music because I'm Canadian and because my Coldplaying profile is colourful.

 

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Some guy singing about guns and "ho's"

 

What? I see no guns and ho's:

 

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I'm sorry. He sort of struck a nerve with me.

 

Wait long enough... he'll say something hilarious and then your nerve will be fine. *nods*

 

^oh, wasn't that in someone's sig sometime back?
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Someone could be into murder and necrohilia. Does that account for "it's up to your tastes". No because it's just wrong, llike Slipknot and co.

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I may have written a thread saying I didn't like Radiohead, but I compare them to such shite in music and I praise that Radiohead are around. Such music includes club music. Yes people like Basshunter and co deserve to be sent to prison for their crimes on music. I mean what saddo has that sort of music on their Ipods?? They have no inkling of what music is like if they listen to such shite like that. I was appalled last summer when I found out Viva La Vida had been knocked off the top spot of the album charts by that talentless knob! Thankfully the guys re took the spot a week later!

 

What else? Oh yeah! Slipknot and other heavy metal bands! Sorry but what is that all meant to be about? Some guy angrily screaming into a microphone accompanied by some guitar being destroyed. Is that what constitutes music?? Chris Martin once said people who listen to this sort of music have "bad relationships with their parents". That is pretty extreme by Chris's modest standards! You have to look at their fans and two words come to mind - social rejects. You kind of feel sorry for these bands and their fans.

 

Oh yeah and then there's rap and r'n'b. I couldn't give two shits about that sort of music. Some guy singing about guns and "ho's". Yeah, great deal of respect to women isn't it.

 

You seriously have no open-mindedness in terms of music whatsoever. It seems if a song is not in the alternative category, and does either have an album or single that gets to the top 10 then you toss them off. You don't like electronica or dance type music because you think it's way to simple. Little do you know that programming music is extremely difficult, so to call people talentless is just funny.

 

Once again you are generalizing and being prejudice towards people because of the music they listen to. I don't really listen to metal but I don't have the audacity to call people that listen them "social rejects". I find this to be really offensive. I'm sure that you probably think that all Pink Floyd fans are pot heads, and people who don't listen to classical music are just stupid and have no intelligence. The kind of generalizing and logic just doesn't make sense.

 

I will somewhat agree with you with Rap music in that SOME of it has degrading and offensive lyrics, but you cannot say that all of it does.

 

Also people that listen to Basshunter, and Radiohead, and electronica music you think "have no inkling of what music is like if they listen to such shite like that."... sorry to say but you're talking about yourself. If you cannot at least appreciate different kinds of music then you don't know what "music is like". Music, like any other art is supposed to be expressive. I don't really like the metal or rap that i have heard so far, but I cannot just throw it out the door. I mean without Rap/Hip-Hop there wouldn't be an artist like Beck around.

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you are so right the gloaming09. ;)

 

@ howyousawtheworld:

there are many genres and bands out there, we are free to listen the ones we like most. May be it depends on our likes or dislikes or on our mood.

anyways we shouldn't judge a genre for certain bands or artists who make the genre be bad. and anyways a lot of genres have influenced many bands for good.

 

conclude that all rap is rubbish or that all metal / hard rock is bad influence for kids (mind you that that is a task that parents should check, the problem is that some them don't do that), is a simply thing to do. I do listen those styles from time to time, and although i don't agree that much with some lyrics i don't go to steal a shop or swear to my friends :confused: that's too simplistic association.

 

and btw you should know that most heavy guitarist are very well prepared musically, and they use to have a great knowledge about certain things (History, Arts), which average people don't use to know.

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My best friend likes metal music. So, you're saying that you are sorry for her. Okay.

 

*goes to call her best friend and tells her that she is a social reject and people should feel sorry for her*

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You seriously have no open-mindedness in terms of music whatsoever. It seems if a song is not in the alternative category, and does either have an album or single that gets to the top 10 then you toss them off. You don't like electronica or dance type music because you think it's way to simple. Little do you know that programming music is extremely difficult, so to call people talentless is just funny.

 

Once again you are generalizing and being prejudice towards people because of the music they listen to. I don't really listen to metal but I don't have the audacity to call people that listen them "social rejects". I find this to be really offensive. I'm sure that you probably think that all Pink Floyd fans are pot heads, and people who don't listen to classical music are just stupid and have no intelligence. The kind of generalizing and logic just doesn't make sense.

 

I will somewhat agree with you with Rap music in that SOME of it has degrading and offensive lyrics, but you cannot say that all of it does.

 

Also people that listen to Basshunter, and Radiohead, and electronica music you think "have no inkling of what music is like if they listen to such shite like that."... sorry to say but you're talking about yourself. If you cannot at least appreciate different kinds of music then you don't know what "music is like". Music, like any other art is supposed to be expressive. I don't really like the metal or rap that i have heard so far, but I cannot just throw it out the door. I mean without Rap/Hip-Hop there wouldn't be an artist like Beck around.

 

Erm I didn't say dance music. Dance music includes the likes of Moby etc who I actually find quite appealing. It seems that it is you who doesn't have a fucking clue on music genres. Just stop trying to copy you're little idol Thom Yorke, by thinking you can talk intelligent. Utter drivel!

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