Yeah... but the hosts and guests are actually funny on those shows Mark.

 

That's your opinion, but you're still condoning continual p*ss-taking and dissing of certain people in the public eye, so you can't have it both ways.;)

Wait a minute, I don't even watch Have I got new for you, because they concentrate on english politicians and people in the public eye there whp I don't know enough about to find their jokes funny.

Same with some parts of Mock the Week, I much prefer the stand up rounds when they use observational comedy or wit (like the "Things you wouldn't hear..." rounds)

Plus you know as well as I do Mark

 

Qi > those shows.

 

:nod:

Mark go away, this thread had nothing to do with you and once again you turned it into a boring discussion about yourself. Seriously if you have some dignity go and post where your so called friends post (because you always claim that the people that dislike you is a minority, my theory is that you don't know what minority means but whatever). Just go away, there are million of other threads.

durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

And a lot of things have been said (and are still being said) to me by several people (including yourself), either explicitly or implicitly, on here, which could be taken as at least equally as nasty. Therefore I don't regard you as being in any position to lecture me.

If you had had an issue you wished to discuss it could easily have been sorted out amicably, via PM. I have stated this on numerous occasions in the past, and it still stands.

 

Yes, I've said things like "wow Mark that joke wasn't even funny" or if someone else makes a bad joke "Wow that joke could've been made by Mark". Does that really bother you so much? Most of the "nasty" comments made about you by other members of this board, even, are really just making fun of your horrible jokes. You don't like it? Then say something actually worth saying in a thread.

 

 

 

That's clearly an exaggeration, and makes you come across as all "holier-than-thou" IMO, especially when you use words like "validating", which definitely comes across as superior.

 

So we're not allowed to use intelligent language now? The words to big for you?

 

And besides, you use big boy words all the time. Look at the quote above this, "explicitly", "implicitly", even "numerous" has many of letters in them. :o And your tone is often coming across as superior, so don't even give Violet that shit. Look at your own post in response, your remarks are belittling, nasty, and yes, even of superior tone!

 

 

That's your opinion, of course, but if it is, you should also apply that to people you communicate with who seem to bash Coldplay (even if it's just to say they're boring or their music's dull) at every opportunity.

By your reckoning, none of these people should have repeated their opinions about Coldplay. They should have said it once, and then never again.

Anyway, I suggest you learn to ignore "jokes"/negative comments made about singers or bands you like, much as I now do regarding Coldplay. Then there isn't a problem.

I haven't reacted to anyone's criticism or p*ss-taking of Coldplay in quite some while now.

I have accepted that it's going to happen, even though I don't like it.

 

Wait wait wait. So now I'm telling you that I don't appreciate it when you make snide comments about a favorite artist of mine, and you're telling me that you're not going to do anything about it until I talk to friends of mine who don't like your favorite artist, despite you later saying that you've come to live with it? :wtf: Ever heard the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right"? It's often taught to kindergarten children ;)

 

And besides, who ever said I agreed with all the nasty comments said about Coldplay? That's completely irrelevant.

 

And have you ever thought that maybe people feel comfortable saying their opinions on Coldplay because you are an old member and never get punished for all the shit you say about other musicians?

 

What I'm saying to you, now, is that you need to stop a) Acting superior all the time and b) bashing artists that others like.

What do you even get out of making fun of good artists? If that's how you get your kicks, then you really need to go find something constructive to do.

then you really need to go find something constructive to do.

 

YEAH MARK GO INTO CONSTRUCTION

YEAH MARK GO INTO CONSTRUCTION

 

Thank you Cresty, now he's going to completely ignore all my points and follow it up with a joke about this. It's a never-ending cycly. ;______;

Well he better construct you a response like the carpenter he is. :phu:

Well he better construct you a response like the carpenter he is. :phu:

 

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:lol:

In response to the vast amount of slander that has been pubically made against me by Mark, I'm in the midst of preparing a huge multi-quote response that I feel like I really need to say. This is going to take a while-a LONG while. I would like to tell everyone to be prepared and apologize in advance to anyone who this might offend-with the exception of Mark, of course, because it seems that anything I say to him is offensive, so it really wouldn't matter, anyway.

Oh, snap. This ended up longer than even I thought it would be. Here goes nothing.

 

And a lot of things have been said (and are still being said) to me by several people (including yourself), either explicitly or implicitly, on here, which could be taken as at least equally as nasty. Therefore I don't regard you as being in any position to lecture me.

If you had had an issue you wished to discuss it could easily have been sorted out amicably, via PM. I have stated this on numerous occasions in the past, and it still stands.

The Coldplay topic was resolved some time ago. However, what is a "distasteful" or "insulting" comment is subjective, and I read a lot of comments made about Coldplay, Chris personally, or Gwyneth, which I (and I'm sure many other Coldplay fans on here) regard as "distasteful", and could easily be read by members of the band's "inner circle".

Some of these comments (which are clearly deemed not to have overstepped the mark as they haven't been removed) are made by people who seem to think they can lecture me in this regard, which is an absolute joke.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, either.:dozey:

That's clearly an exaggeration, and makes you come across as all "holier-than-thou" IMO, especially when you use words like "validating", which definitely comes across as superior.

That's your opinion, of course, but if it is, you should also apply that to people you communicate with who seem to bash Coldplay (even if it's just to say they're boring or their music's dull) at every opportunity.

By your reckoning, none of these people should have repeated their opinions about Coldplay. They should have said it once, and then never again.

Anyway, I suggest you learn to ignore "jokes"/negative comments made about singers or bands you like, much as I now do regarding Coldplay. Then there isn't a problem.

I haven't reacted to anyone's criticism or p*ss-taking of Coldplay in quite some while now. I have accepted that it's going to happen, even though I don't like it.

OK, let’s see. You’re talking about amicably talking to people in PM about problems they may have with you, and yet it’s perfectly acceptable for you to call out other people pubically because, in your mind, other people do? Other people doing whatever you think they’re doing doesn’t give you the license to do it. At any rate, I don’t recall much anything that Christina has said that could be regarded as “nasty.” She talked in a later post about what she actually means and why, so I’m just going to leave that alone.

No one would’ve said anything about it had YOU not started the lecturing first. Y’know, the comment about how people shouldn’t bash Gwyneth for trivial reasons. YOU started this. I’m sorry you interpret criticism about your hypocrisy (which is completely true, BTW) as a lecture. It’s not a lecture, so much as an observation. Oh, and about that comment about me having cake and eating it, too: HAHAHA. I’m not the one who’s even trying.

OK. I honestly don’t see how someone supplementing my point about how you bash artists and me acknowledging her by using the term “validating” can be interpreted as a comment with a “superior” connotation. I don’t try to be better than anyone else, because I’m not everyone else. I’m me; the best I can try to do is to better myself, which is a constant process. That’s not really important to the matter at hand, but I thought you should know my thought process so you could see how wrong you are about whatever “superior” attitudes I might have.

Well, guess what? I can’t control what other people do. Yeah, some people may have said more than they needed to say, but generally, it wasn’t offensive, and some of it was in an attempt to explain to others why they felt a certain way. You can only talk about something in so many ways before you end up repeating yourself. At any rate, they’re not like the comments that you have made about some people, so YOU don’t have the right to lecture THEM about any of those things, now, do you?

But you don’t. This issue comes up again and again. If you really want to talk to people about that, talk to some of the Coldplay fangirls and fanboys who get riled up over something one of us says that’s not even mean-or would you not do that because it’s Coldplay and they have the right to feel like they want and it’s not fair to them?

Apparently you haven’t; otherwise, you wouldn’t call it “piss-taking.”

Well that applies to Coldplay too, then.:dozey:

In that case it is exactly the same. Whether it's comments made about Coldplay, Gwyneth, Gaga, Bieber, or any other performer, being insulted for making those comments is wrong, which is what I said in the first place. I might not have agreed with what Gena was saying about Gwyneth, but I wouldn't have attacked her because of it.;)

All I will say is, that most of those accusing others of "nastiness" have been nasty themselves in one way or another, so are therefore in no position to point fingers.

As I said before, there are many that show a great dislike towards Coldplay on here, but of course, there's no reason for "fights" to break out in relation to any artist or topic, if everyone plays fairly.

If certain people want to keep making fun of Coldplay, then fine, but then the same should apply to anyone or anything else in the public eye.

See, you just contradicted yourself right there, calling for equality on Coldplay. You wouldn’t continuously use them as an example if it didn’t matter to you. Oh, and the “Coldplay forum” card doesn’t apply here, because this whole issue is about so much more than that.

But making those insulting comments in an attempt to insult/degrade and artist/fans is equally wrong.

Well, you’re the one who started the finger-pointing, so you opened that can of worms.

Mark, you wouldn’t know what “playing fairly” is if it was in the form of a snake and it bit you on the nose. I’ve had discussions with you about various things, and for the most part, you either twist words around to the point where it’s nothing like the point that was made, you accuse people of some sort of thing that they haven’t done (e.g. that comment you made earlier about my superiority, which is still flat out wrong), or you ignore it entirely, usually talking about how “irrelevant” something is or dismissing it with one of your many horribly unfunny puns.

See, there you go again. “Making fun.” I haven’t really seen much of that around here. At least, not as much as you’re making it out to be.

I agree, but this also relates to everything I've said on the matter. You should have the same regard for everyone in this respect. You have said a lot of things to me over time which have been equally "unfair".

Even Gena is aware of this. If you don't like me, then fine, but don't keep going on about it all the time.

There are many people on here I don't like, but I just don't bother communicating with them any more, as it's the best way.

If everyone did this, I think everything would be fine.;)

BUT YOU DON’T, MARK. You seriously just barge into threads making needless comments, which have people going, “How in the world does this relate to what we’re talking to?,” and when people point it out (or other similar things that you’ve done on the forum), that’s when you get all defensive and start posting even more things, which gets a stupid amount of people involved because sometimes, things you say are pretty ridiculous.

But as you are aware, I've also been unfairly personally attacked on many occasions, as have you, merely for disagreeing with someone.

I'm sure you agree there's no excuse for that.;)

LOL, no. That’s not it at all. I don’t see how pointing out something that many people see is a form of “attack.”

But Mark (and to anyone else on the forum) you should act mature enough not instigate incidents that could lead to a bigger argument (which annoyingly has happened more that once on this site). If you say something bad about someone in the public eye which someone on the board admires, be it Coldplay, Lady Gaga or anyone else ...well then you can't always expect them to sit back and take the shit. No matter how mature these people are the majority of the time.

And if you say things about, for example, Lady Gaga over and over. And you end up annoying someone, then what's stopping them from insulting an artist that you admire everytime you say something nasty. People can only ignore shit for so long.

 

 

 

 

Also remember that, there are so many members on this board who don't say shit about anyone in the public eye, including coldplay, the majority of the time. Why is our time wasted on the ones who do? -__-

Very well put, Emma. The only reason why I started out this huge post is because Mark finally said something that broke the straw on the camel’s back, and after not having said anything for so long, I feel the need to say it now. I’m generally very good at staying out of things, but I just can’t anymore. Like you said, “People can only ignore shit for so long.”

This applies to everyone on the board (equally) and there are rules now in place to stop things getting out of hand. You can't just single out any one person for this, just because you happen not to like them for whatever reason. That's clearly unfair.

It's human nature. Some people do, and some don't. It's just a question of different personalities, that's all, and all should be accepted. Shows like "Mock The Week" and "Have I Got News For You" revolve around satirising people in the public eye all the time.

Also remember that people tend to conveniently ignore all the "positive" things that are said (e.g. in the "RIP Amy Winehouse" thread), and just concentrate on the "negative" ones. That's also disproportionate.

It’s not because people don’t like you. It’s because you do things that make people notice and do those sorts of things. Maybe if you stopped making comments that almost seem like you want to piss people off, people might leave you alone.

As I mentioned to you in a conversation we once had, there’s a difference between “satire” and just being plain rude, which is what you seem to do sometimes.

HAHA, glad you brought the Amy Winehouse thing up. Lore had mentioned your hypocrisy in that matter, too, given the names you used to call her. I remember the news threads you used to post about her drug problems, and you weren’t nearly as charitable in those threads as you were in her RIP thread.

Yes, I've said things like "wow Mark that joke wasn't even funny" or if someone else makes a bad joke "Wow that joke could've been made by Mark". Does that really bother you so much? Most of the "nasty" comments made about you by other members of this board, even, are really just making fun of your horrible jokes. You don't like it? Then say something actually worth saying in a thread.

So we're not allowed to use intelligent language now? The words to big for you?

And besides, you use big boy words all the time. Look at the quote above this, "explicitly", "implicitly", even "numerous" has many of letters in them. :o And your tone is often coming across as superior, so don't even give Violet that shit. Look at your own post in response, your remarks are belittling, nasty, and yes, even of superior tone!

Wait wait wait. So now I'm telling you that I don't appreciate it when you make snide comments about a favorite artist of mine, and you're telling me that you're not going to do anything about it until I talk to friends of mine who don't like your favorite artist, despite you later saying that you've come to live with it? :wtf: Ever heard the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right"? It's often taught to kindergarten children ;)

And besides, who ever said I agreed with all the nasty comments said about Coldplay? That's completely irrelevant.

And have you ever thought that maybe people feel comfortable saying their opinions on Coldplay because you are an old member and never get punished for all the shit you say about other musicians?

What I'm saying to you, now, is that you need to stop a) Acting superior all the time and b) bashing artists that others like.

What do you even get out of making fun of good artists? If that's how you get your kicks, then you really need to go find something constructive to do.

Christina, I love you. :heart:

To end all this, I’ll make something clear. Mark, I don’t like you. I don’t like some of the stuff you say. I don’t like your excessive use of the same smileys, and I definitely hate the overuse of puns. However, I have tried my very best to be as civil with you as possible. After all this, though, I feel like I had to say these things to you. I’m tired of your crap, and I’m sure there are others who feel the same way. I’m not gonna sit here and let you talk to me or my friends in that way. If this post here gets me banned, so be it. I would hope it wouldn’t, given I haven’t called you any nasty sort of names, my use of expletives was very limited, and I haven’t said anything to you that hasn’t been said by other people already. However, if that ends up being the case, I can at least be satisfied that I finally got all this off my chest.

:heart:

I actually expected Mark to go say: "Well, we clearly know she wasn't exactly sane and therefore she wasn't having a good life style so it doesn't surprise me.......................................... :rolleyes:" in the Amy Winehouse death thread.

 

 

You always preach so much about equals, all being the same, no one being superior. While I know and agree that those are true, why bring it up SO MANY TIMES? You're no good example about being "equal as everyone else" and "mature" because, even though you're older, you still sound like a little boy repeatedly asking "Why?" to piss someone off. Want to report my post? Go ahead. Just making a point here.

I'm not going to quote Violet's post because it was super long, but I agree with everything she said. :heart:

 

I actually expected Mark to go say: "Well, we clearly know she wasn't exactly sane and therefore she wasn't having a good life style so it doesn't surprise me.......................................... :rolleyes:" in the Amy Winehouse death thread.

 

 

You always preach so much about equals, all being the same, no one being superior. While I know and agree that those are true, why bring it up SO MANY TIMES? You're no good example about being "equal as everyone else" and "mature" because, even though you're older, you still sound like a little boy repeatedly asking "Why?" to piss someone off. Want to report my post? Go ahead. Just making a point here.

 

And this completely. :heart:

You always preach so much about equals, all being the same, no one being superior.

 

wait wat?

but i thought he thought coldplay and such were superior O___o

Everyone knows Coldplay are superior. :rolleyes:

You always preach so much about equals, all being the same, no one being superior. While I know and agree that those are true, why bring it up SO MANY TIMES? You're no good example about being "equal as everyone else" and "mature" because, even though you're older, you still sound like a little boy repeatedly asking "Why?" to piss someone off. Want to report my post? Go ahead. Just making a point here.

 

Why couldn't I have been that concise? :facepalm:

Why couldn't I have been that concise? :facepalm:

 

You were getting stuff out of your chest dude, I was just being quick, gotta exercise |:

Yeah, I know. I just wish it were that easy. Heh.

Wait a minute, I don't even watch Have I got new for you, because they concentrate on english politicians and people in the public eye there whp I don't know enough about to find their jokes funny.

Same with some parts of Mock the Week, I much prefer the stand up rounds when they use observational comedy or wit (like the "Things you wouldn't hear..." rounds)

 

But you're still saying you find some of the mocking/satire funny, so you clearly don't have a problem with "mocking" per se. If that's the case, you can't really be selective about who's mocked and who isn't.:dozey:

 

Plus you know as well as I do Mark

 

Qi > those shows.

 

:nod:

 

I'm also a fan of QI. Yet another fantastic, intelligent show, which makes a refreshing change from all the "brain candy" TV out there.:smug:

 

Mark go away, this thread had nothing to do with you and once again you turned it into a boring discussion about yourself. Seriously if you have some dignity go and post where your so called friends post (because you always claim that the people that dislike you is a minority, my theory is that you don't know what minority means but whatever). Just go away, there are million of other threads.

 

Firstly, you have no right to say who can or can't post in this thread, as it's a public forum.

 

Secondly, my posts were in response to other's comments (which had already veered off topic), and I think you'll find this was the unnecessary post that changed everything:

 

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4885357&postcount=161

 

;)

Considering it's Lore's thread and you hijacked it, I'd say that she can in fact ask you not to post here.

 

 

And Mark,

 

Secondly, my posts were in response to other's comments (which had already veered off topic), and I think you'll find this was the unnecessary post that changed everything:

 

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/sho...&postcount=161

 

 

Did you not even look at the post Alexa was quoting? (That's yours, in case you didn't notice). You're talking about fashion. Please explain how that has any relevance to the original topic, and do it without pointing the finger at other people.

Yes, I've said things like "wow Mark that joke wasn't even funny" or if someone else makes a bad joke "Wow that joke could've been made by Mark". Does that really bother you so much? Most of the "nasty" comments made about you by other members of this board, even, are really just making fun of your horrible jokes.

 

No they're not. I could easily find countless examples if I wanted to.;)

 

You don't like it? Then say something actually worth saying in a thread.

 

You have no right to tell anyone what can or can't be said in a thread or what indeed is "worthwhile" or not, and I'm pretty sure you participate in several threads where nothing of any worth (IMO) is said at all.:dozey:

If you don't find my comments worthwhile, please ignore them, as I do with the countless ones I find worthless throughout the board.;)

 

 

So we're not allowed to use intelligent language now? The words to big for you?

 

I assume you meant "too big." Anyway, you can use any language you like, as long as it isn't abusive.

 

And besides, you use big boy words all the time. Look at the quote above this, "explicitly", "implicitly", even "numerous" has many of letters in them. :o

 

I too am allowed to use any vocabulary I like, as long as it is doesn't contravene any board rules.;)

 

And your tone is often coming across as superior, so don't even give Violet that shit. Look at your own post in response, your remarks are belittling, nasty, and yes, even of superior tone!

 

My comment was in direct response to what I regarded as a superior tone being adopted by her, in accusing me of using one. Therefore I regarded it as hypocritical. You can't have it both ways.

 

Wait wait wait. So now I'm telling you that I don't appreciate it when you make snide comments about a favorite artist of mine, and you're telling me that you're not going to do anything about it until I talk to friends of mine who don't like your favorite artist, despite you later saying that you've come to live with it? :wtf: Ever heard the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right"? It's often taught to kindergarten children ;)

 

Have you ever heard the saying "practice what you preach"? I believe that's taught to "kindergarten" children too.;)

 

And besides, who ever said I agreed with all the nasty comments said about Coldplay?

 

I don't know. It definitely wasn't me.:dozey:

 

And have you ever thought that maybe people feel comfortable saying their opinions on Coldplay because you are an old member and never get punished for all the shit you say about other musicians?

 

It's already been accepted that people have a right to express their opinions (positive or otherwise) about any musician or band, including Coldplay. Therefore that point is irrelevant.

 

What I'm saying to you, now, is that you need to stop a) Acting superior all the time and b) bashing artists that others like.

What do you even get out of making fun of good artists? If that's how you get your kicks, then you really need to go find something constructive to do.

 

You are in no position to tell people what to do, how to post, or where to go.

I could equally say the same to you about "going to find something constructive to do", but I won't, as it's none of my business how you choose to spend your time.

Please do me the same courtesy.;)

Yeah, blame me now................................:rolleyes:

 

 

OK, let’s see. You’re talking about amicably talking to people in PM about problems they may have with you, and yet it’s perfectly acceptable for you to call out other people pubically because, in your mind, other people do? Other people doing whatever you think they’re doing doesn’t give you the license to do it.

 

I could say exactly the same to you, so that clearly isn't going to get us anywhere. I suggested a solution that could be used if people were willing to, instead of getting "personal" in public.

 

At any rate, they’re not like the comments that you have made about some people

 

I disagree, and could easily source countless comments to back this up.