June 29, 200422 yr OK, I finally saw it. Moore definitely introduced compelling arguments. It was very interesting. The first scene was really cool, and the final scene was hilarious! Although i found some parts pretty contradictory, it was still a great accomplishment.
June 30, 200422 yr I don't think anybody can deny that Michael Moore is at the very least an expert at making publicity for himself. He's also a strict adherent to the philosophy of "there's no such thing as bad publicity." :lol: he also sticks to the philosophy of "i can edit my films and fabricate information to make the viewer believe what i am showing actually did happen" i will see this movie eventually, but i want to research it a lot before i see it to know which parts he has fabricated or exagerrated.
June 30, 200422 yr http://fahrenheit_fact.blogspot.com/ check that site out, i haven't looked through it too much but if you see the film you may want to see what this person says. i haven't seen the film so i am not sure about it, but check it out anyway.
June 30, 200422 yr okay "gas-man"...hehe...sorry its been a few days since you posted that last thing. You seem pretty cool...I'm into music too...obviously. I'm not going to form a band or anything, but I listen a lot. Your move to London sounds sweet, I wish I could do that too. Good luck with all of that. I wouldn't say your picture makes you seem weird...more mysterious if anything. :blush:
June 30, 200422 yr i saw the movie in question last night and i personally thought it was great. yes, it's only docu-tainment, this is not authentic journalism or a real documentary - we all know that. i for one think moore is a good guy and a talented film-maker. i also know that he edits things in favour of his point and exploits emotions to help get audiences to feel for his cause. all i can say is i'm glad that there is a place where people are finally seeing things that the american media has basically never touched on. the movie raises questions, starts conversations, and helps us all figure out where we stand even if its strongly against moore and his ideas. there is way worst garbage put on movie screens month after month, finally something with a little substance comes out and everyones up in arms.
June 30, 200422 yr Author It comes out in my theatre on Friday.. woohoo. I am definitely seeing it then.
June 30, 200422 yr i saw the movie in question last night and i personally thought it was great. yes, it's only docu-tainment, this is not authentic journalism or a real documentary - we all know that. i for one think moore is a good guy and a talented film-maker. i also know that he edits things in favour of his point and exploits emotions to help get audiences to feel for his cause. all i can say is i'm glad that there is a place where people are finally seeing things that the american media has basically never touched on. the movie raises questions, starts conversations, and helps us all figure out where we stand even if its strongly against moore and his ideas. there is way worst garbage put on movie screens month after month, finally something with a little substance comes out and everyones up in arms. But those things are exactly what make Moore so frustrating. I think a film that's less sensationalistic and attempts to actually present the facts as they are (in other words, an actual documentary) would be a much more effective condemnation of the Bush Administration. As it is now, anybody who disagrees with his fundamental points can dismiss him as a lying hack (which is only partly true), and ignore the fact that his underlying points are often worth debating.
June 30, 200422 yr At any rate, it's certainly more worthwhile than seeing White Chicks or whatever other crap there is now.
July 1, 200422 yr But those things are exactly what make Moore so frustrating. I think a film that's less sensationalistic and attempts to actually present the facts as they are (in other words, an actual documentary) would be a much more effective condemnation of the Bush Administration. I agree. At any rate, it's certainly more worthwhile than seeing White Chicks or whatever other crap there is now. I agree with this as well. :lol:
July 1, 200422 yr I saw it last night too...I liked it. I mean, its weird, like are you supposed to enjoy this movie? I dunno if I'd say I enjoyed it. It was appauling, strong points against bush, whose a douche. I don't even like Michael Moore that much, as many of you don't either. I shed a few tears...its sad how fucked up our world is. I think everyone should see this...before voting.
July 1, 200422 yr The part with the mother of the soldier was heartbreaking. I cried a lot during that part. I'm gonna wait for more people see it before I start ranting about the various contradictions in this movie. :lol:
July 1, 200422 yr Yea good call...that was so sad...sooooo sad, I can't even talk about it without tearing up. When they showed bodies of people in Iraq and what not, I started crying too...makes me sick to my stomach. I can't believe this is happening right now in our world. :embarrased: its sickening. i hate bush. :angry:
July 2, 200422 yr Ok... people that already saw farenheit 9/11 and Bowling for Columbine..... which is better?
July 2, 200422 yr Ok... people that already saw farenheit 9/11 and Bowling for Columbine..... which is better? I, personally, liked Bowling for Columbine better.
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