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*burns Tennessee flag* what an odd choice of color!

^ Idiots aside (I don't see the idiots in front of the white house after bin laden was killed to be a reflection of the majority), most of my experience with USA chanting is when they're trying to be ironic in regard to the stereotype:[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M]YouTube - ‪America fuck yeah-team america‬‏[/ame] Usually its only used in the context of a national sports event (olympics, world cup) in which they're celebrating the team like one would a local club. Of course, I pretty much agree.

no offense, but isn't this kind of contrary to the spirit of the thread? It's like an American saying, "I really don't understand how Germans can be patriotic when we had to save the world from the evil nazis that they produced" Obviously this is a very crude exaggeration. But I think the cogent point is based on what it means to be patriotic. For example, I divorce "love of country" from "love of government" which is not to say I'm ashamed of the political state of my particular country (I'm negatively disposed towards governmental institutions in every country and feel the idea of pledging allegiance to any flag is fundamentally unethical), but that when someone says they love America, they're referring to individual citizens of that country who embody positive traits and values that are not as prominent in other nations. Actually, It doesn't even if have to go that far, ones patriotism needn't be politically founded, but could be based on love of food, sport, lifestyle, language, culture, history etc...things that only people of that particular country would fully embrace. For example, having grown up here I have come to appreciate a certain habit of life virtually exclusive to my local culture, and with that comes a certain type of pride. Obviously I'm not gonna say that my familiarity with this culture makes it objectively better than any other culture, but there is still a certain beauty in it that I think people of most cultures can relate to. I was kind of unfair taking the first quote out of context of the following discussion. Basically what I mean is that, I don't feel like your average American patriot takes the term to mean, "Our army is da best" likes its a sports team. But that there is a type of patriotism that is apolitical. So if Obama did something stupid tomorrow, I wouldn't think, "man, I hate my country" because thats not what I think of when I say country. But am I alone on this? I'd like to think that others make the same distinction, but I'm not sure. I just find that the majority of the people I know are so self-deprecating in regard to the modern perception of America (see Mike's first post), that I feel like their are more people using the stereotype than people who actually correspond with it. And the fact that Mike and I are (mostly) not ignorant or obese doesn't mean we're not Americans or exceptions to the rule, because there are still certain positive things we embrace within american culture.

a few I like that haven't been mentioned. http://www.wearepostrock.com/ http://www.ambientmusicblog.com/ http://afterthepostrock.com/

it's funny because you really hyped it for me. So I was getting ready for an explosion of awesomeness during the last few songs, and then it comes on and I'm like :blank:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-saMXpmp0Ls&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Biggest Difference Between Men and Women[/ame]

So I listened to it last night, and a bit more today. His choice of timbres throughout most of the album is awesome, as is the way in which he blurs the line between folk and pop (shown in his use of low vocals). That said, I was dissapointed by the closing stretch. Wash. comes off a bit contrived, with the repeating piano and sentimental vocals, its just not particularly interesting, despite the usual tricks. While Calgary and Beth suffer (imho) from the use of outdated atmospherics and pop sensibilities. It may have worked for Peter Gabriel, but the keyboards and accompanying instruments in Beth especially reminds of poorly produced eric clapton pop songs. The cheesiness just makes both songs emotionally inaccessible to me, which is a pity because he seems to be pouring a lot into the vocals. Perth, Holocene, and Michicant are great tracks though, and its cool to see him stretch beyond the basic acoustic guitar and keyboards of for emma.

kind of how I feel about these articles.

^yeah. Honestly not sure what to make the song.

haha, Stek pulled a Ramos. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqt5Ea61gJc&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Ajax goalkeeper, Stekelenburg drops the Cup[/ame]

LA vs. NY = highest quality pro soccer the U.S. has seen in ages. :edit: donovan lol [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dTEigKSmbQ]YouTube - Tim ream chases down donovan empty net[/ame] other news. Bayern 8-1 St. Pauli? yikes.

Cool. Just asked because he's been getting some caps for the U.S. national team, but I've hardly seen him play. Thus, the insight is much appreciated.

Hey Greg, what are your thoughts on Jermaine Jones' play while at Blackburn?

surprised it hasn't been posted yet. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM]YouTube - Grammar Nazis[/ame]

yay! someone who has seen it! People give me strange looks when I try describing it to them. :uneasy:

I just have Zooropa(which is oddly interesting) and Mogwai's soundtrack to Zidane: A 21st century portrait

apparently love = hurt :emo:

about as close as I get... [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n10JC0BOWF8]YouTube - Radiohead - How I made my millions[/ame]

wtf is with 1:10? or for that matter, all the clips we've seen since the trailers for pt. 1 that show Harry and Voldemort talking face to face at some part of the castle e.g. the 'I have something worth living for' bit. I first hoped it was just to add drama to the trailer, but now it seems like these are from an actual scene, which scares me. I really hope they didn't screw around with the king's cross chapter...

beetuls

already been done. http://www.theonion.com/articles/pitchfork-gives-music-68,2278/

ARRRRGHHGHGHHLW!!!!!!

and not a single fuck was given that day.

aw tits, why does my computer hate rapidshare...