berrywoman Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 check out the add on the page link provided... :stunned: ... and I ask, this man still hasn't been thrown out of office?? http://operationtruth.com//index.php?option=content&task=view&id=264&Itemid=133 http://www.operationtruth.com is a site created and run by vets of past wars, particularly this war.... read and listen to their stories and how the government plainly ignores their pleas... you'll also find some interesting blogs on there too... I saw the ad the other morning in FOX news no less.. but I have yet to see it again..... educate yourselves my fellow Americans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 They have to have reason to throw him out first...if they didnt throw clinton out theres no way in hell they'd ever throw bush out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted November 5, 2005 Author Share Posted November 5, 2005 thats the sad part..... threaten to throw a man out of office because he 'fools around in the oval office' but here's a man who wronglyfully brings us to war, kills thousands of soldiers, and has no proper exit strategy.... hmmmmm are you saying Clinton's crime is worse than that of Bush?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 no there was a president who screwed his country over by ignoring our enemy time and time and cutting our intelligence funding...but i do think republicans for fucking morons for going after clinton like they did. fucking morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted November 5, 2005 Author Share Posted November 5, 2005 oOoooooh well you can't really blame the guy lol.. its all 'politics' :rolleyes: feckin shambles its become.. I love this country... but I hate my government... sucks really. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 its been this way for a long time. i mean even in the early 1800's we had alot of dirty politics. its a dirty game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 camille, its hard to impeach a guy when the republicans control all 3 parts of the government. I can't wait to see when the new supreme court nominee gets approved and then overturns a woman's abortion rights. hello awesome Canadian immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 yeah finally baby's wont get killed because their mothers are to vile to keep them alive! yeah a baby life might actually be saved...so evil. damn communist republicans wanting to save baby's lives...damn them all! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badlydrawngirl Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 :dozey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 yeah finally baby's wont get killed because their mothers are to vile to keep them alive! yeah a baby life might actually be saved...so evil. damn communist republicans wanting to save baby's lives...damn them all! :rolleyes: vile are the people who are trying to tell me what I can and cannot to do to MY body... its still MY body and choice. To call all women who choose to have an abortion vile, is just plain stupidity. But then again, why should I expect any less from you. You have no idea for what reasons a woman might have to choose abortion. What if she's raped? Or even worse.. raped by her father! What if for some medical reason the woman isn't able to carry a normal healthy baby to term, and she doesn't want to risk that chance.. and decides to terminate?? She doesn't have a choice? Because some 'suit' in Washington says so?? Get the fuck outta here!! Thats VILE!! Where ar my rights?? A fetus at 2 months needs ME to survive... I don't think its even developed its own heart at that time... (I may be wrong) But its still MY choice.... Kyle- I didn't expect him to be impeached because of the house majority crap lol but it just goes to show you the double standards in which 'by coincidence' always seems to be the way of the GOP... pfft... vile my ass.. I take that comment personally, Nick... you don't know if people on this board have had to choose this path... you have a right to your opinion.. just be ready and prepared to get it right back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijeli_Miš Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Making something illegal has rarely ever solved the problem. I mean in Ireland thousands of women go to U.K. to have an abortion, because it's illegal in Ireland.My 2 cents worth is that we all need to concetrate more on the root of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 whats the root of the problem then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijeli_Miš Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I'm talking in generally. Like I dunno stop blaming games for kids violence, and spend more time with them talking about stuff.Or educate about responsible family planing, instead condeming condoms as evil, and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 ^ totally agree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*andrea* Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 yeah finally baby's wont get killed because their mothers are to vile to keep them alive! yeah a baby life might actually be saved...so evil. damn communist republicans wanting to save baby's lives...damn them all! :rolleyes: vile are the people who are trying to tell me what I can and cannot to do to MY body... its still MY body and choice. To call all women who choose to have an abortion vile, is just plain stupidity. But then again, why should I expect any less from you. You have no idea for what reasons a woman might have to choose abortion. What if she's raped? Or even worse.. raped by her father! What if for some medical reason the woman isn't able to carry a normal healthy baby to term, and she doesn't want to risk that chance.. and decides to terminate?? She doesn't have a choice? Because some 'suit' in Washington says so?? Get the fuck outta here!! Thats VILE!! Where ar my rights?? A fetus at 2 months needs ME to survive... I don't think its even developed its own heart at that time... (I may be wrong) But its still MY choice.... Kyle- I didn't expect him to be impeached because of the house majority crap lol but it just goes to show you the double standards in which 'by coincidence' always seems to be the way of the GOP... pfft... vile my ass.. I take that comment personally, Nick... you don't know if people on this board have had to choose this path... you have a right to your opinion.. just be ready and prepared to get it right back... I think the root problem its education. In a society with no education abortion it’s a very hard problem deal with. If people don’t have sexual education everyone loses. I don’t like giving just an opinion about abortion because I feel every case it’s unique, however I do believe every woman has the right to decide if they want or not to have a baby, I don’t believe it’s a “vile” thing to do in a rape case, or in a terminal disease, like VHI. However I do think it’s an irresponsible thing to do to “get out of the problem.” e.g. if a girl (16) goes crazy in a party and gets pregnant and then wants to end everything with an abortion. That’s wrong, in every aspect. Why? Because she knew the consequences of having sex with no protection, and she has now to take the responsibility .NO MATTER WHAT So…all comes to this (to me) with education we can have legal abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colduser Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 vile are the people who are trying to tell me what I can and cannot to do to MY body... its still MY body and choice. To call all women who choose to have an abortion vile, is just plain stupidity. But then again, why should I expect any less from you. You have no idea for what reasons a woman might have to choose abortion. What if she's raped? Or even worse.. raped by her father! What if for some medical reason the woman isn't able to carry a normal healthy baby to term, and she doesn't want to risk that chance.. and decides to terminate?? She doesn't have a choice? Because some 'suit' in Washington says so?? Get the fuck outta here!! Thats VILE!! Where ar my rights?? A fetus at 2 months needs ME to survive... I don't think its even developed its own heart at that time... (I may be wrong) But its still MY choice.... Kyle- I didn't expect him to be impeached because of the house majority crap lol but it just goes to show you the double standards in which 'by coincidence' always seems to be the way of the GOP... pfft... vile my ass.. I take that comment personally, Nick... you don't know if people on this board have had to choose this path... you have a right to your opinion.. just be ready and prepared to get it right back... Camille in all seriousness, I appreciate your response to Nick's bullshit post in this thread. You really hit the nail on the head and said all of those things I wanted too. Really, I can't stand it when men especially, broadcast their disdain for abortions when they are not the one's who have to go through a most difficult ordeal. Abortion should always remain a woman's right to choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 yeah finally baby's wont get killed because their mothers are to vile to keep them alive! yeah a baby life might actually be saved...so evil. damn communist republicans wanting to save baby's lives...damn them all! :rolleyes: vile are the people who are trying to tell me what I can and cannot to do to MY body... its still MY body and choice. To call all women who choose to have an abortion vile, is just plain stupidity. But then again, why should I expect any less from you. You have no idea for what reasons a woman might have to choose abortion. What if she's raped? Or even worse.. raped by her father! What if for some medical reason the woman isn't able to carry a normal healthy baby to term, and she doesn't want to risk that chance.. and decides to terminate?? She doesn't have a choice? Because some 'suit' in Washington says so?? Get the fuck outta here!! Thats VILE!! Where ar my rights?? A fetus at 2 months needs ME to survive... I don't think its even developed its own heart at that time... (I may be wrong) But its still MY choice.... Kyle- I didn't expect him to be impeached because of the house majority crap lol but it just goes to show you the double standards in which 'by coincidence' always seems to be the way of the GOP... pfft... vile my ass.. I take that comment personally, Nick... you don't know if people on this board have had to choose this path... you have a right to your opinion.. just be ready and prepared to get it right back... I think the root problem its education. In a society with no education abortion it’s a very hard problem deal with. If people don’t have sexual education everyone loses. I don’t like giving just an opinion about abortion because I feel every case it’s unique, however I do believe every woman has the right to decide if they want or not to have a baby, I don’t believe it’s a “vile” thing to do in a rape case, or in a terminal disease, like VHI. However I do think it’s an irresponsible thing to do to “get out of the problem.” e.g. if a girl (16) goes crazy in a party and gets pregnant and then wants to end everything with an abortion. That’s wrong, in every aspect. Why? Because she knew the consequences of having sex with no protection, and she has now to take the responsibility .NO MATTER WHAT So…all comes to this (to me) with education we can have legal abortion. :thumbsup: totally agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*andrea* Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 ^I'm glad we think alike :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 yeah finally baby's wont get killed because their mothers are to vile to keep them alive! yeah a baby life might actually be saved...so evil. damn communist republicans wanting to save baby's lives...damn them all! :rolleyes: vile are the people who are trying to tell me what I can and cannot to do to MY body... its still MY body and choice. To call all women who choose to have an abortion vile, is just plain stupidity. But then again, why should I expect any less from you. You have no idea for what reasons a woman might have to choose abortion. What if she's raped? Or even worse.. raped by her father! What if for some medical reason the woman isn't able to carry a normal healthy baby to term, and she doesn't want to risk that chance.. and decides to terminate?? She doesn't have a choice? Because some 'suit' in Washington says so?? Get the fuck outta here!! Thats VILE!! Where ar my rights?? A fetus at 2 months needs ME to survive... I don't think its even developed its own heart at that time... (I may be wrong) But its still MY choice.... Kyle- I didn't expect him to be impeached because of the house majority crap lol but it just goes to show you the double standards in which 'by coincidence' always seems to be the way of the GOP... pfft... vile my ass.. I take that comment personally, Nick... you don't know if people on this board have had to choose this path... you have a right to your opinion.. just be ready and prepared to get it right back... killing an innocent child isnt vile? hmmm...im all for womens body rights..but when it dangers a baby then im agaisnt it. its not just their body, its another lifes body aswell. they seem to care more about themselves then for their OWN DAMN CHILD. its sickening...its vile its evil. because i dont wanna take responsiblity for my actions ill just fucking kill my child...yeah thats not vile. its different if its rape or going to kill the women. but if its just the mother doesnt want the damn child is fucking evil for her to just have it killed because of that. im all for abortion when their a very good reason. if the mothers health is in danger then im all for it. but anything other then that or rape is just wrong. its more then wrong is pure evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 vile are the people who are trying to tell me what I can and cannot to do to MY body... its still MY body and choice. To call all women who choose to have an abortion vile, is just plain stupidity. But then again, why should I expect any less from you. You have no idea for what reasons a woman might have to choose abortion. What if she's raped? Or even worse.. raped by her father! What if for some medical reason the woman isn't able to carry a normal healthy baby to term, and she doesn't want to risk that chance.. and decides to terminate?? She doesn't have a choice? Because some 'suit' in Washington says so?? Get the fuck outta here!! Thats VILE!! Where ar my rights?? A fetus at 2 months needs ME to survive... I don't think its even developed its own heart at that time... (I may be wrong) But its still MY choice.... Kyle- I didn't expect him to be impeached because of the house majority crap lol but it just goes to show you the double standards in which 'by coincidence' always seems to be the way of the GOP... pfft... vile my ass.. I take that comment personally, Nick... you don't know if people on this board have had to choose this path... you have a right to your opinion.. just be ready and prepared to get it right back... Camille in all seriousness, I appreciate your response to Nick's bullshit post in this thread. You really hit the nail on the head and said all of those things I wanted too. Really, I can't stand it when men especially, broadcast their disdain for abortions when they are not the one's who have to go through a most difficult ordeal. Abortion should always remain a woman's right to choose. bullshit? not wanting babys being killed because a mother doesnt want them bullshit? gee...thats fucking pathetic. you ALL should be VERY thankful your parents didnt have you killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*andrea* Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 an abortion its when the baby hasnt been born yet..that means ...like 2/4 weeks pregnancy? they dont have a heart, or lungs, or a brain, or soul...so that means...they are not, even close to be humans...they are not concious. sounds kind of hard but it`s the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 so you say. but how can we decide if if its life or not? what gives us the right at the time? when its could be a matter of life or death better to err on teh side of life just in case. specialy when its your own family. but whats teh difference in killing it before it has lungs or after. its dead either way. not to mention how do you know if it has a soul or not? no one knows that early on, therefor we must side with life just in case. and at that early age it very well may not have a soul, but better safe then sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 so you say. but how can we decide if if its life or not? what gives us the right at the time? when its could be a matter of life or death better to err on teh side of life just in case. specialy when its your own family. but whats teh difference in killing it before it has lungs or after. its dead either way. not to mention how do you know if it has a soul or not? no one knows that early on' date=' therefor we must side with life just in case. and at that early age it very well may not have a soul, but better safe then sorry.[/quote'] educate yourself and read my ENTIRE post.... the fact that you say its ok if one is raped and not ok as a form a birth control is a double standard. I agree.. it shouldn't be used as a form of birth control.. because if you play with fire.. you should know the risks. I know girls who have abused that right.. and yes.. its selfish.. but at least she has the CHOICE!! This is my point... a legal abortion shouldn't be done later than 3 months. Personally.. 3 months is too far long for me.. but a fetus at 2 months or 3 weeks is nothing.. yes.. its a prospective life.. but again.. without the mother.. it can't survive... ergo the choice issue. MY body.. MY choice..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colduser Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 bullshit? not wanting babys being killed because a mother doesnt want them bullshit? gee...thats fucking pathetic. you ALL should be VERY thankful your parents didnt have you killed. Nick, I know for a fact that you have offended some people here by your usual wreckless and ignorant comments. I just thought you would like to know ;) You continue to amaze me :dozey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 vile are the people who are trying to tell me what I can and cannot to do to MY body... its still MY body and choice. To call all women who choose to have an abortion vile, is just plain stupidity. But then again, why should I expect any less from you. You have no idea for what reasons a woman might have to choose abortion. What if she's raped? Or even worse.. raped by her father! What if for some medical reason the woman isn't able to carry a normal healthy baby to term, and she doesn't want to risk that chance.. and decides to terminate?? She doesn't have a choice? Because some 'suit' in Washington says so?? Get the fuck outta here!! Thats VILE!! Where ar my rights?? A fetus at 2 months needs ME to survive... I don't think its even developed its own heart at that time... (I may be wrong) But its still MY choice.... Kyle- I didn't expect him to be impeached because of the house majority crap lol but it just goes to show you the double standards in which 'by coincidence' always seems to be the way of the GOP... pfft... vile my ass.. I take that comment personally, Nick... you don't know if people on this board have had to choose this path... you have a right to your opinion.. just be ready and prepared to get it right back... Camille in all seriousness, I appreciate your response to Nick's bullshit post in this thread. You really hit the nail on the head and said all of those things I wanted too. Really, I can't stand it when men especially, broadcast their disdain for abortions when they are not the one's who have to go through a most difficult ordeal. Abortion should always remain a woman's right to choose. Definitely!! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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