I wasn't being mean, I was just kidding!

 

HOLY SHIT.

 

:cry:

 

I think saying if you were ever gay you'd kill yourself was pretty mean. My soul would be torn apart if my gay friend killed HIMSELF. :confused:

do you have any evidence of those "changed" with god's help?

 

Did you need evidence to believe in God?

Right now I dont have physical evidence if that,but I know that there are people that change!

 

God change my life!

 

I am not gay,and I never will,but I believe that God can change the people!

 

BIBLIE SAY THAT

i need evidence that he changes gay people! i need to see a gay person "fixed"! you can't say stuff like "gay people can be changed with god's help" when you have no evidence! how many gay people have been changed? really! how many gay people have there been, ever? one has to have been changed if god has that power, right? you can't just sling that stuff at people and expect them to eat it up!

 

You want answer?

Ok is simple read the Biblie!

I wish I could give you the right answer you need and all the proves,but right now I cant do it!

Why? Is not because there is not answer,not because there is not evidence!

 

Is because I dont have all the answer!I dont have it right now,but I promise I will search for the answer.

You probably will not like the answer,but that is not my problem.

 

God will give my the answer How ?Simple I have to read more the Biblie and pray more.

Times i should have died but prayed and felt god there protecting me. times ive been really sick and have felt better because of god' date=' evidence like the mountians in the bible aswell. theres no way theres not a god with the way the world is, no big bang could have created this world. im not living my life right, i know that but ive been trying to change. but because im not livign right doesnt mean i dont beleive.[/quote']

 

So really, you got nothing there.

 

Y'know God has killed many people who have prayed. You could easily have been one of them, but more likely then anything, it was all just a big coincidence.

 

I hate when people are praying beside a dying person at their deathbed, 95% of the time they will die, and people will say "God works in mysterious ways, at least we prayed for him and God will guide him to heaven..." and the 5%, when they survive, by queer luck or whatever, "Good golly its a miracle! Thanks god! Thanks!"

i understand,but don't you feel that sometimes we cross the boarders?

the question is would Jesus hate gays,but it seems we talk about ourselves

EDIT: oops I forgot the best line...

As some warn victory, some downfall

Private reasons great or small

Can be seen in the eyes of those that call

To make all that should be killed to crawl

While others say don't hate nothing at all

Except hatred.

 

 

Disillusioned words like bullets bark

As human gods aim for their mark

Made everything from toy guns that spark

To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark

It's easy to see without looking too far

That not much

Is really sacred.

 

While preachers preach of evil fates

Teachers teach that knowledge waits

Can lead to hundred-dollar plates

Goodness hides behind its gates

But even the president of the United States

Sometimes must have

To stand naked.

 

An' though the rules of the road have been lodged

It's only people's games that you got to dodge

And it's alright, Ma, I can make it.

 

-Jesus (AKA Bob Dylan, oh I'm so nastily blasphemous!)

pray and ask god how many people he's fixed, then get back to me.

You lose yourself, you reappear

You suddenly find you got nothing to fear

Alone you stand with nobody near

When a trembling distant voice, unclear

Startles your sleeping ears to hear

That somebody thinks

They really found you.

 

A question in your nerves is lit

Yet you know there is no answer fit to satisfy

Insure you not to quit

To keep it in your mind and not fergit

That it is not he or she or them or it

That you belong to.

 

Although the masters make the rules

For the wise men and the fools

I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.

 

For them that must obey authority

That they do not respect in any degree

Who despise their jobs, their destinies

Speak jealously of them that are free

Cultivate their flowers to be

Nothing more than something

They invest in.

 

While some on principles baptized

To strict party platform ties

Social clubs in drag disguise

Outsiders they can freely criticize

Tell nothing except who to idolize

And then say God bless him.

 

While one who sings with his tongue on fire

Gargles in the rat race choir

Bent out of shape from society's pliers

Cares not to come up any higher

But rather get you down in the hole

That he's in.

 

But I mean no harm nor put fault

On anyone that lives in a vault

But it's alright, Ma, if I can't please him.

 

Old lady judges watch people in pairs

Limited in sex, they dare

To push fake morals, insult and stare

While money doesn't talk, it swears

Obscenity, who really cares

Propaganda, all is phony.

 

While them that defend what they cannot see

With a killer's pride, security

It blows the minds most bitterly

For them that think death's honesty

Won't fall upon them naturally

Life sometimes

Must get lonely.

 

My eyes collide head-on with stuffed graveyards

False gods, I scuff

At pettiness which plays so rough

Walk upside-down inside handcuffs

Kick my legs to crash it off

Say okay, I have had enough

What else can you show me?

 

And if my thought-dreams could be seen

They'd probably put my head in a guillotine

But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only.

pray and ask god how many people he's fixed' date=' then get back to me.[/quote']

 

Did you want telephones numbers and adress too?

Where they live and what they do?

 

I also will pray for you,hoping that you can also find the answer!

darkness at the break of noon, shadows even the silver spoon! the handmade blade, the child's balloon, eclipses both the sun and moon! to understand, you know too soon, there is no sense in trying!

*makes out with Kelli*

 

 

c'mon Kelli, let's go have crazy lesbian sex... ;)

 

 

While some on principles baptized

To strict party platform ties

Social clubs in drag disguise

Outsiders they can freely criticize

Tell nothing except who to idolize

And then say God bless him.

1 Corinthians 6:9

 

9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

The Dylan quotes are kinda killing the debate here, but they did make me put on Subteranean Homesick Blues for the first time since... 2 days ago.

i mean no harm, nor put fault on anyone that lives in a vault. but it's alright, ma, if i can't please him!

I think the reason I put the Dylan quotes in here was that I knew no one was going to read them anyways, and I just felt like being a bit obnoxious. :lol: Plus everyone's quoting the bible, so I figured I'd quote something that I believe in.

The Dylan quotes are kinda killing the debate here' date=' but they did make me put on Subteranean Homesick Blues for the first time since... 2 days ago.[/quote']

it wasn't going anywhere anyway.

Well, before you go proclaiming the message of those songs, after he recorded them he found himself finding Jesus in 1978, and then wrote Slow Train Coming (The entire album).

1 Corinthians 6

 

12All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any

yeah but his religious period sucks!

Hahaha I cant argue with that.

actually he wrote 3 christian albums - 1978,1979,1980

i have slow train coming, good album

theres also shot of love and saved :D

yay alfredo ;)

Hey Reuben!

Well' date=' before you go proclaiming the message of those songs, after he recorded them he found himself finding Jesus in 1978, and then wrote Slow Train Coming (The entire album).[/quote']

 

Oh I know, but it's just so much easier to impose your own beliefs on things. Then pretend the artist meant it that way the whole time, which he could have or could not have. It doesn't really matter. *shrug*

 

 

And yeah, the religious period just depresses me... :cry: :lol:

u like bob dylans christian albums alfredo?

y does it depress u an_cat?

To be honest I dont heard that albums!

 

I dont hear Bob Dylan to much!