okay :)

Judge orders priest to prove Jesus existed

A shame the only news link I could find is from a biased source, but whatcha gonna do.

weird...

to me' date=' to my beliefs. according to god aswell. but take god out of the picture and i still consider it immoral.[/quote']

 

That is stupid, for something to be immoral it has to be a decision, and being gay is not a choice.

 

And Nick you are not open minded at all, not in this sense. You often refer to non-believers opinions as "The dumbest thing I've ever heard".

and being gay is not a choice.

 

Thanks for saying this Reilly ;)

You are quite right.

i once said that and it was not because she was a non believer, but because what she said lacked common sense, and it was indeed the most stupid thing i ever heard, how is that being closed mind when it is the dumbest think ive ever heard?

 

that how no affect on how opened minded i am when i stated a simple fact of someone saying something completely stupid, like saying the skies pink....nothing to do with opened mindnesss.

 

being gay is a choice, and no you can do something unmoral and it not be a decision...mental retarted people have murdered before because they cant help it, its still unmorral. its a active choice to do it, they dont automatically have gay sex, they make the choice to do so. its a conscious decision.

being gay is a choice' date=' and no you can do something unmoral and it not be a decision...mental retarted people have murdered before because they cant help it, its still unmorral. its a active choice to do it, they dont automatically have gay sex, they make the choice to do so. its a conscious decision.[/quote']

 

Nick, some statements/questions for you to ponder ;)

1. You are not gay so don't even try and say it is a choice when it is something you know NOTHING about.

 

2. When did you decide you were a HETEROSEXUAL Nick? Was it a CHOICE for you as well?

 

3.Why would someone CHOOSE to live a lifestyle that would bring them discrimination and hate for a lifetime?

 

4.I cannot help being gay any more than you can help having blue eyes or brown hair. This is who I am. Your stance, that it is a choice, only furthers sterotypes that are simply not true.

Being gay is a active decision, its a choice, its unnatural. people should have the right to be gay if they wish, seeing as how no harm comes from it, but in my views its immoral. even if you are born gay, it doesnt change teh fact in my view of it being immoral.

In the begining God create a men and a woman!You can read irt n the Biblie

 

You have to believe that,if you believe in God!

 

If you dont believe in God,well thats is your choice! Which in my opinion is a mistake,but I respect your opinion,hoping that you respect the mine as well!

Nick, years ago, someone like you would have made me so angry. Now I just laugh at your utter ignorance. You talk about homosexuals as if you know what they go through. I am no different than you dude ;)

I like how you didn't respond to any of my comments. You just posted your same old talking points. When I asked you to tell me when you discovered your heterosexuality, I did that because what our sexual orientation is has nothing to do with choice. You have just always been straight, as I have always been gay. You make me seem as something less than human. Sex is natural and those attractions are organic and not decided.

in my opinion being a gay is not a choice.it's natural.as 15 years boy i can tell that i'm a heterosexual,but i can't tell you what will happen with me tomorrow or 4 years later.things you're going through can change everything what if i'll meet a guy who i'll be in love?for me,know it seems impossible to be a gay,but later what will happen with me,probably my life will turn...i know a person who had a family,a kid but someyhing happent after and he became a gay,i guess it wasn't a choice.he just met somebody whom he can love and live with.

 

sorry for english

As a bit of a mind bender- Nick, what would you do if you werent a hetero?

 

Would you go on being depressed in life because you have to repress your sexuality?

I have to log out guys :( I wish I could debate longer but don't have the time.

People that believe in God,have not that problem.I will ask God for an answer,for help.

 

Why?

 

Cause I believe in God and I believe in the Bible.

 

Thats why I know that God will not let me do something wrong!

bye colduser!

 

what's your name? be proud that you're special and you're not as everybody

Thanks man, my name is Aaron ;)

What's yours?

Talk to you soon ;)

People that believe in God,have not that problem.I will ask God for an answer,for help.

 

Why?

 

Cause I believe in God and I believe in the Bible.

 

Thats why I know that God will not let me do something wrong!

 

I used to ask God stuff all the time, but he never replied to my calls.

 

Funny, that.

Thanks man, my name is Aaron ;)

What's yours?

Talk to you soon ;)

 

Nikita or Nik,call me however you want ;)

I tried talking to God the other day, but he had his away message up.

 

 

:cry:

 

Alright, I got my daily blasphemy out of my system. Continue.

Thanks man, my name is Aaron ;)

What's yours?

Talk to you soon ;)

 

Nikita or Nik,call me however you want ;)

 

I didnt know your name, I'll call ya nik :wacky:

People that believe in God,have not that problem.I will ask God for an answer,for help.

 

Why?

 

Cause I believe in God and I believe in the Bible.

 

Thats why I know that God will not let me do something wrong!

 

I used to ask God stuff all the time, but he never replied to my calls.

 

Funny, that.

 

You have to pray with faith,and pray in the right way!

 

God could tell you:Lets talk!

i also believe in God and i wear a cross and i strongly believe that God would say:"Choose your way yourself..." :)

Thanks man, my name is Aaron ;)

What's yours?

Talk to you soon ;)

hey aaron, I don't know if you'll leave before this, but I wanted you to know why I wasn't responding to you. I hope I didn't offend you because I know I do sometimes because, well... sometimes I'm rude but I like to wait before I say things a lot of times and a lot of times I don't say anything at all anymore

 

because I've had these discussions before and I don't want it to be the same way I've had discussions before on my part or anyone else's part where it just looks like a sloppy discussion based on emotion rather than a logical argument. I hope you understand now why I don't like to talk about these things sometimes.

to me' date=' to my beliefs. according to god aswell. but take god out of the picture and i still consider it immoral.[/quote']

 

Just stop. Right there.

 

Excuse me, do YOU know what God wants? Do you actually KNOW what his (or her *GASP*) plan is for everyone? That's certainly the impression that you give.

And it is certainly not "immoral". It is different. It's unfamiliar. They may be your beliefs, but how can you honestly look at another human who's gay and say what they're doing is wrong? They're not hurting anybody. If you didn't know someone was gay, and you liked them just fine, then you'd probably be friends with them, right?

Just a question, how many homosexuals have you met/known?

Nick, years ago, someone like you would have made me so angry. Now I just laugh at your utter ignorance. You talk about homosexuals as if you know what they go through. I am no different than you dude ;)

I like how you didn't respond to any of my comments. You just posted your same old talking points. When I asked you to tell me when you discovered your heterosexuality, I did that because what our sexual orientation is has nothing to do with choice. You have just always been straight, as I have always been gay. You make me seem as something less than human. Sex is natural and those attractions are organic and not decided.

 

we are no different. we both sin, we both do immoral things, we've both made bad choices. i have different views on life because of my beliefe in god and jesus. its not ignorance moral values, your moral values are very different then mine, your not ignorant for it, im not.