Good post as you clearly have nothing to defend yourself. Your pitiful...

Erm, ha, this is odd.....can anybody else see the issue there seems to be here?

 

'Improvisation' posted a comment stating I was "completely insane" and "should not be allowed to reproduce" for my political view - then when I pointed out that he just insulted me and nothing else he then says "Good post as you clearly have nothing to defend yourself. Your pitiful..."

 

Very strange and child like way to act. I'm not just saying that as a shitty comeback but it's obviously true and self evident because everyone can see what you said.

 

I don't need to defend myself when I wasn't challenged on anything I have posted, do I?

 

I shouldn't really waste my time because clearly you don't know how to act properly. Your type of behaviour is what may very well cause your country, The United States of America, to die. And I don't want that to happen.

You are fucking insane! Tell me honestly if you were in charge of the most powerful country in the world why in hell you you kill thousands of your own people and GOVERNMENT WORKERS? Id love to god to hear your answer!!!! You see, you idiots never use common sense! THINK THINGS THROUGH FOR ONCE! All you say are what if and maybe this happened! OMG LOOK AT WHAT SOME NUT POSTED ON THIS RANDOM SITE! You really need to wake up! You guys even got your ass handed to you on your own 9/11 forums!

Let's look at the past....

 

Why would they do it?!?!! It's false flag terrorism and do you think I would know this much without having reasons why they would do it?!?! It's like I'm living in the twilight zone here, god.

 

Right, ok. Here goes.....

 

Again you seem to be very far behind on this issue. I'm sorry if you don't like that but I'm only going from what you have posted so far.

 

You ask questions but assume people who think for themselves are "idiots".

Think things through? Don't make me laugh - I've done more thinking about this than I'd care to remember. This isn't a game son, it's serious.

 

Did you know that it is a common historical fact that governments have staged false flag events against their own people as well as against other countries since Roman times?

 

Do you know that this technique has been used to enable wars, pass laws and take away liberties since governmental times began?

 

Look up Problem, Reaction, Solution. It's a standard for governments to create Order Out of Chaos. The world knows of many such events......from Nero burning Rome to blame it on the Christians in 64AD, Hiltlers Reichstag Fire to gain dictaorship, the USA's Operation Northwoods written in 1962 (but luckily not carried out) Pearl Harbor, as well as the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 which created the Vietnam war.....it's common place, false flag terror is used all the time.

 

Firstly....You might have to be British to know about this one. Guy Fawkes Day is celebrated with fireworks here in the UK.....it marks the day that Fawkes was caught trying to blow-up parliment by packing the basement with gunpowder. Fawkes is just the patsi, the plot was actually run by the royal chancelor, Lord Robert Cecil to advance his political aims, which it did......

 

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Next....When Hitler was Chancellor and Nazis were only a minority in the government. They crucially control the Ministry of the Interior of Prussia.......Prussia had been brought under direct rule the previous summer as the result of an emergency decree by Hindenburg - the President -.......this gave control of the police in two thirds of Germany to the Nazis.

 

What happened On the 27th February 1933? The Reichstag was empty as it had been in recess since December.....Anyway - At 21:27 that night there was a huge explosion and the great chamber is enveloped by flames......In the rear of the building a half naked mentally ill dutchman, Marinus van der Lubbe is discovered rolling around and arrested.....He claims to have done it as "a protest"....

 

Hitler and Goring arrived on the scene. Goring at once accuses the communists. The next day the ageing President signs a decree which allows the nazis to suspend freedom of speech which they use to ban virtually the entire opposition press.......Communists are arrested wholesale though the party is not banned until after the elections so that the left vote will remain split.

 

Did the communists do it? Well, Torgler, the chairman of the Communist deputies to the Reichstag and a number of other communists were arrested. There was absolutely no evidence that they were involved and at the trial bought by the Nazis collapsed....

However.....The Nazis clearly gained and for that reason were the prime suspects from the first. However given Germany was immediately plunged into a state of total dictatorship it was initially difficult to gather hard evidence. Then Karl Ernst head of the SA in Berlin when asked by a fellow Dutch rightist whether his Storm Troopers were responsible for the fire answered "If I said Yes, I'd be a bloody fool, if I said no I'd be a bloody liar."

 

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Another.....Kermit Roosevelt admitted (on NPR radio) that in 1953 the CIA and British intelligence carried out a wave of bombings and shootings in Iran to overthrow the democratically elected Premier following Mossadegh's declaration that he would nationalize foreign oil holdings. He then went on to brag about how they subsequently blamed the bombings on Mossadegh himself. The CIA's own account of the overthrow, reported on by the New York Times in April 2000, states that the agency "directed a campaign of bombings" as part of the coup....

 

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In July, 1954, an Israeli terrorist cell was activated inside Egypt. The ensuing attacks, cleverly designed to look like the work of Arabs, blasted and torched American and British targets..........

First, the Israeli terrorists firebombed the Alexandria Post Office. Then, they firebombed the U.S. Information Agency libraries - one in Alexandria, and one in Cairo. Then, they firebombed a British-owned Metro-Goldwyn Mayer theater, and a railway terminal, and the central post office, and a couple more theatres......To smuggle their bombs inside the buildings, the terrorists used devices shaped like books, hiding them inside book covers. Once inside, bags filled with acid were placed on top of the nitroglycerin bombs. After several hours, the acid ate through the bags and ignited the nitroglycerin, causing explosions and blazing infernos.......

In the early 1950s, the United States was making fast friends with Egypt, taking advantage of the new pan-Arab Egyptian government of Gamal Abdel Nasser. The warming relationship between the US and Egypt caused a very insecure Israel to feel a bit threatened...........

Nassar also had plans to nationalize the Suez Canal, which had been controlled by the British for decades. Egypt had been known to blockade Israeli shipping through the canal, and Israel feared Nassar would make a blockade permanent......

After U.S. President Eisenhower began encouraging the British to leave the Suez Canal Zone, Israel started looking for a way to make the British stay, and a way to remain best buddies with America.......

And what better way to treat your best friend than to stab them in the back and tell them one of your other friends did it?

David Ben Gurion, Israel’s founding prime minister, thought that Egyptian terrorist attacks against Americans would be a perfect way to cool the growing US/Egypt relationship. And, since there were no Egyptians planning attacks against Americans, Ben Gurion’s proteges did the next best thing: they recruited Israeli agents to PRETEND to be Egyptian terrorists.

 

The top-secret Israeli terrorist cell, Unit 131, had existed since 1948.........In 1950, Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Aman, was created, and Israel sent an undercover agent, Colonel Avraham Dar (alias: John Darling, British citizen of the island of Gibraltar), to recruit more members to Unit 131. He also trained them how to build bombs and terrify Americans and British civilians working and living in Egypt......

Before the terrorist cell was activated, another Israeli agent named Avraham - Avraham Seidenberg — was sent to take control from Avraham Dar.....

Seidenberg first went to Germany to establish an alias: he assumed the identy of Paul Frank, a former SS officer, complete with underground Nazi connections. By 1954 his new identity was in place and he went to Egypt to take command of Unit 131.......

Unit 131 decided to call their terrorist plan Operation Suzannah. The name came from Susan Kauffman, the fiancee of Victor Levy, one of the Israeli terrorists. The name also referred to the unit’s call to action: the unit would activate when it heard an Israel radio broadcast of the American song, Oh! Susannah............

In the summer of 1954, Colonel Binyamin Gibli, the chief of Aman, arranged for the tune to be broadcast........

 

Israeli Terrorist Ring was then Busted.........Everything was going well for the Israeli terrorists it seemed. But, there was one thing the members of Unit 131 didn’t know: their terrorist sleeper cell had itself been infiltrated by the Egyptian intelligence service. The new Unit 131 leader, Seidenberg, had betrayed them to the Egyptians...........

So, when Unit 131 member Philip Nathanson made his way to bomb the British-owned Rio theater in Alexandria, not only was he being followed; the Egyptian intelligence service had a fire engine waiting to put out the flames.......As Nathanson stood in the ticket line, his bad luck turned worse when one of the bombs in his pocket ignited, and then exploded......

Nathanson was burned but not killed. As nearby pedestrians shouted warnings and wondered if he was a suicide bomber, Egyptian policemen stepped in, calmed the crowd, and identified Nathanson as one of the terrorists who had been blowing up American and British buildings................

Nathanson was interrogated by Egypt’s military intelligence and confessed the whole plot, which led to more arrests. When the Israeli spies were given a public trail, all the details of their terrorist training in Israel came to light....

Former Israeli Prime Minister Ben Gurion and Israel’s Aman chief, Binyamin Gibli, tried to frame their own Defense Minister, Pinhas Lavon. They even offered forged documents as proof. The frameup worked for a while - so much so that the entire incident is still popularly known as the Lavon Affair. Lavon resigned, and Ben Gurion came out of political retirement to replace him as Israel’s Defense Minister......

However, the truth did finally emerge.........

In 1960, a review of the inquiry discovered the fake documents, as well as perjury by Seidenberg. A committee of seven Cabinet members cleared Lavon. And, although Ben Gurion never admitted fault, he did resign his post as Defense Minister.

 

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This next case is an important one....

Most Americans can’t conceive that officials at the highest levels of the U.S. Government would murder thousands of its own citizens to advance an empirical agenda. We should all, very carefully, think again…

In 1962, the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff unanimously proposed state-sponsored acts of terrorism on American soil, AGAINST American citizens. The head of every branch of the U.S. armed forces gave written approval to sink U.S. ships, shoot down hijacked American planes, and gun down and bomb civilians on the streets of Washington, D.C., and Miami.

The idea was to blame the self-inflicted terrorism on Cuba’s leader, Fidel Castro, so the American public....and the international community....would beg and scream for the marines to storm Havana. Another benefit would be the wave of patriotism that would spur American teens to join the Army, do the fighting and dying, and return home with bloody stumps in place of their limbs. But, put simply, starting a war with communist Cuba was the motivation for the Pentagon’s Northwoods plan.

The public learned about Operation Northwoods 35 years later when the Top Secret document was declassified by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board. (The complete declassified Top Secret document can be read at George Washington University’s online archive: Northwoods Document.)

 

Among other things, Operation Northwoods proposed:

• Faking the crash of an American passenger plane. The disaster was to be accomplished by faking a commercial flight from the U.S. to Jamaica, and having the plane boarded at a public airport by CIA agents disguised as college students going on vacation. An empty remote-controlled plane would follow the commercial flight as it left Florida. The commercial flight’s pilots would radio for help, mention that they had been attacked by a Cuban fighter, then land in secret at Eglin AFB. The empty remote-controlled plane would then be blown out of the sky and the public would be told all the poor college students aboard were killed.
   
  (Note: This was the favorite choice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.)
  
• Using a possible NASA disaster — astronaut John Glenn’s death — as a pretext to launch the war. The plan called for “manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans” if something went wrong with NASA’s third manned space launch......
  
• To turn neighboring countries against Cuba, false Cuban planes would be used to bomb the Dominican Republic. The U.S. plan called for using actual Soviet bombs, and intercepting fake Cuban weapons shipments, such that the frame-up of Cuba would be complete......
  
• Blowing up buildings in Washington and Miami. Cuban agents (undercover CIA agents) would be arrested, and they would confess to the bombings. In addition, false documents proving Castro’s involvement in the attacks would be “found” and given to the press.......
  
• Blowing up a U.S. battleship in Cuban waters when Cuban planes and ships are in the area, so they can be blamed. A fake air/sea rescue operation was planned, as well as fake funerals and fake passenger lists published in the Main Stream Media to “cause a healthy wave of national indignation.” The document actually mentions how a similar incident — the US Maine false flag operation — successfully started the Spanish American War in 1898.........
  
• Attacking an American military base in Guantanamo with CIA recruits posing as Cuban mercenaries. This involved blowing up the ammunition depot, and would obviously result in material damages and many dead American troops. As a last resort, the plan even mentioned bribing one of Castro’s commanders to initiate the Guantanamo attack....... That deserves repeating: the Pentagon considered using our tax dollars to bribe another country’s military to attack our own troops in order to instigate a full-scale war.........

Operation Northwoods was only one of several plans under the umbrella of Operation Mongoose...........

 

........Shortly after the Joint Chiefs signed and presented the plan in March, 1962, President Kennedy, still smarting from the Bay of Pigs fiasco, declared that he would never authorize a military invasion of Cuba............

 

In September, Kennedy denied the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Lyman Lemnitzer, a second term as the nation’s highest ranking military officer. And by the winter of 1963, Kennedy was dead…killed, ironically, by a Cuban sympathizer in the streets of an American city.

 

Even more ironically, in 1975 President Ford appointed retired General Lyman Lemnitzer to the Commission on CIA Activities to investigate whether the CIA had committed acts that violated American laws...........

 

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...Now, The first World Trade Center bombing was provocateured by the government.....In 1993 the FBI planted their informant.....Emad A. Salem....within a radical Arab group in New York led by Ramzi Yousef.

Salem was ordered to encourage the group to carry out a bombing targeting the World Trade Center's twin towers. Under the illusion that the project was a sting operation, Salem asked the FBI for harmless dummy explosives which he would use to assemble the bomb and then pass on to the group. At this point the FBI cut Salem out of the loop and provided the group with real explosives, leading to the attack on February 26 that killed six and injured over a thousand. The FBI's failure to prevent the bombing was reported on by the New York Times in October 1993.

 

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I mean, if you've took the time to read about this then, well done.

I made a much larger post than I expected there.

You sir honestly scare the holy shit out of me that you are so mentally fucked up its not funny. You honestly think that Pearl Harbor was also an inside job? You know to me now it seems like a grudge against the U.S. is comming out. I hope to god you are banned from these forums and this utter trash is deleted along with the rest of nuts like you. You poison the human race. Im just much too shocked and appalled to even think about where to begin to show how crazy this whole thread is...

Ohhh Gareth...

 

Hes obviously too incompetent to even try to understand...

 

I don't think theres anything you can really say to such a person, to pull their head out of they're ass. Maybe he's right though, maybe you should be banned from Coldplaying..:laugh4:

 

Don't dare explore alternatives to what the media tells you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

:laugh4:

Ohhh Gareth...

 

Hes obviously too incompetent to even try to understand...

 

I don't think theres anything you can really say to such a person, to pull their head out of they're ass. Maybe he's right though, maybe you should be banned from Coldplaying..:laugh4:

 

Don't dare explore alternatives to what the media tells you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

:laugh4:

 

Hey, if he wants to close his eyes, put his hands over his ears, ignore all the information and just waste his time with frantic and child-like name calling then it's his problem. And what a huge problem he has.

 

His words do not effect me in the slightest.

You idiots are the ones ignoring all the facts and where the hell do you think all these random articles came from!?!?! Holy jesus you guys are twisted! You never really answered my question, and if you stop to logicly think about what you have said thus far you would realize what a total moron you are. Tell me IF Pearl Harobr was infact an inside job to justify WW2. WHY IN THE HELL DID WE WANT TO GO INTO ONE OF THE BIGGEST WARS IN HUMAN HISTORY? THERE WAS NO OIL IN EUROPE YOU IDIOTS! We gained nothing from WW2 but dead soldiers and the safety of our freedom. Your a complete moron. You idiots just want to raise what if's and maybe's when you never ever stop to think for one minute with rationality. As for this current war which i dont even like to call a war because the damn truth is its more of a skirmish. Hardly anyone has died. Why dont you look that shit up. More people died in one day of most of these other wars and these stupid democrats are like "OH GEEZ! This war is so horriable and going so bad." They blow it way out of porportion its unreal. Back to my point. If we did do 9/11 for justification... why? We are the United States of America and we alone have the power to crush anyone, we dont need justification for shit. We could have just said FU! and bombed both Afganinastan and Iraq back to the stone age and noone would be able to do anything about it. Start using rationality for once.

Ohhh Gareth...

 

Hes obviously too incompetent to even try to understand...

 

I don't think theres anything you can really say to such a person, to pull their head out of they're ass.

Don't dare explore alternatives to what the media tells you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

:laugh4:

 

 

His words do not effect me in the slightest.

 

You prove my point exactly here and you didnt even know it... You are the person with your head up your ass and wont think for yourself. You think your such hot stuff because you can copy and paste articles from god knows where and say "Yea dude look at this man! This is so right!". Why dont you try taking your hole punching egarness and turn it around and direct it at these articles you have here. Youd be amazed at what youll find.

You are the person with your head up your ass and wont think for yourself. You think your such hot stuff because you can copy and paste articles from god knows where and say "Yea dude look at this man! This is so right!". Why dont you try taking your hole punching egarness and turn it around and direct it at these articles you have here. Youd be amazed at what youll find.

 

Well, ok....now, I have come to the end of my time with you....and I think you'll find that pretty much most people can see the problems you have with addressing this issue.

 

When you have spent years, countless days and nights researching this and reading governmental & parliamentary policy documents written by the very people I talk about then may be we can talk on more of a level playing field.

 

I don't know what you want me to say or write?....but I can come to no other conclusion based on the vast amount of information I have witnessed. I can tell you one thing though; I certainly will not be influenced by people who have demonstrated a very limited understanding, who litter every primitive sentence with pointless name calling and write, and more importantly, think things like this:

 

"

We are the United States of America and we alone have the power to crush anyone, we dont need justification for shit. We could have just said F.U! and bombed both Afganinastan and Iraq back to the stone age and no-one would be able to do anything about it"

- Improvisation, 6th April 2007.

The problem is - You are....;

 

1. Asking questions about areas that I have already covered in this and other threads too.

   
   

2. Not reading all of what I have written - then making rash comments about the first few sentences I write.

   
   

3. Furnishing your replies with far too much insulting language about my intelligence and only addressing about one percent of the information I write.

   
   

4. Assuming that I don't know both sides of the argument in detail - a grave mistake on your part.

   
   

Now, I'll say again....if you are not prepared to, or if you can't, act like an adult on this very serious matter then I suggest you go elsewhere to insult people because I don't wish to waste any more of my valuable time pointing out, what I assume to be extremely obvious flaws in the way to have conducted yourself.

 

In the past I sometimes would give back as many insults as I received - but not anymore.

 

I will not be told that I am "a moron", "an idiot", "a nut" or that I am "poison to the human race" by anyone and let them think that it is an appropriate method to debate what many people believe to be the biggest crime against humanity in our lifetime - while also serving as the mammoth catalyst behind the pilfering away of our rights, freedoms and furthering the criminal Anglo-American takeover of the middle-east.

 

I'm sorry you are not interested in the real, and at times, nasty details of how our world is changing but I do hope you take at least some of what I have said on board and do not simply reply as you have done previously because this is exceptionally important - we do need change - and we need it fast.

You cant say anything back! You know I speak the truth. Wheres your proof of how wrong I am? You just did the only thing you can do which is ignore what ive said. You are pitiful. If your going to take a stance of just living to try and find holes in something atleast have the brains to test both sides of this arguement, but no you dont. All you do is find trash that has been posted elsewhere on the internet that attacks Bush and America, because where your from thats all you are fed. Wake up. Also if I really am so illinformed as you say I am then you should have no problem squashing me like a bug, And yet all you do is dodge my posts. Also last time I checked a criminal take over dosent involve a countries first democratic elections in decades.

..anyway.

 

9/11 Truth Movement: Only Growing Stronger – And the Media are Frightened to Death!

TV News Lies

 

The corporate media have launched desperate attempt to eliminate all discussions about the official body of evidence related to the events of 9/11. Just watch how they are trying frantically to get Rosie O’Donnell fired from ABC’s The View. Also think back to when the media launched a broad based attack against the character of Charlie Sheen for daring to publicly question the official story of 9/11. Rosie, however, is a much greater problem for the criminals in the media. She is on a daily network TV program with a large audience that doesn’t even know that questions and disturbing facts about 9/11 exist.

 

Let’s understand one thing: the 9/11 truth movement is doing nothing but growing. People who have been exposed to the actual evidence and understand the ramifications of what it reveals are not waking up one morning and suddenly deciding that they believe the official story. The dynamic works like this: those who are not aware of the evidence believe the official story. Once they start poking around they realize that the official story about the attacks could not possibly be true, and they discover the plethora of evidence hidden and misrepresented by the Bush administration, the 9/11 Commission and the corporate media. 9/11 truthers are not suddenly coming across new information that caused them to suddenly believe the official story. It’s a one way flow. The evidence speaks for itself.

 

Could that last statement possibly explain why the media are trying so desperately to quash any discussion about 9/11 or destroy the credibility of anyone who dares to try to raise the topic? You can bet that it is! But there is another angle here as well. The media are no longer trying to protect the insiders of the Bush administration whose involvement in the events and cover up of the evidence is implicated by so much that has been uncovered. This time around they are protecting themselves. Let’s be real here. With every day a liar continues to lie it becomes more difficult to undo, explain, correct or justify that lie. This is the position in which the corporate media find themselves right now.

 

The events of 9/11 pose a unique problem for the criminal corporate media. For generations, the media have kept Americans in the dark about topics like war, taxation, the monetary system, America’s involvement in atrocities in the world, domestic assassinations, science, health, and our environment. Yet, 9/11 is a topic that hits home like no other. Understand that this is not theory, this is provable.

 

We have to understand that the media have “protected the people” from the truth about many events over the years. I demonstrate this very clearly in a presentation that I give to live audiences. You can get some insight into media deception by perusing TvNewsLIES.org, but my lecture leaves no doubt in people’s minds that the media lie to them via distortions, distractions delusions and omissions. But even more important, they discover that the media are controlled by a single source. I don’t just tell people this, I show them the proof so they see it if for themselves. It’s right there, all the time and once you know what to look for you see it.

 

If anyone cares to call me out on this, all they have to do is invite me to give my presentation and provide an unrestricted question and answer session. Those who hear me will see the world in a different light; I promise you. That aside, my point here is that exposing the deceptions surrounding an issue such the Federal Reserve to the American public would probably not provoke a huge amount of anger and outrage. I say that despite the fact that this topic involves perhaps the biggest conspiracy in the history of this country, and one that affects us all.

 

On the contrary, I can just imagine the horror and rage if the general public were to learn that the events of 9/11 had been actually carried out by rogue elements operating within our government, with outside cooperation (can you say Larry Silverstein?).The tragedy of 9/11 was personal. It was a vivid, calculated, murderous assault on Americans. It is easy to understand that. We all felt the pain and horror of that day, and many of us have lived ever since with 9/11 hanging over our heads and in our hearts, and we have seen those events eclipse our Constitution and democracy. Because of this, we have been easily emotionally manipulated and motivated ever since the attacks by the criminal corporate media. That is probably one of the most difficult realities to confront in all of this. Just think about the reactions of the newly awakened 9/11 truthers when they start to absorb the voluminous evidence that the criminal corporate media has hidden from them for all these years!

 

Have you ever seen the movie Cape Fear? In the film, Max Cady is a criminal who is released after a long prison term. While Cady was in prison he teaches himself law, using the prison library. While in prison Max discovers that his lawyer had been in possession of evidence that might have affected the outcome of the trial. However, the lawyer had not disclosed any of it to either Cady or the jury. He did not allow the jury to see evidence that might have led them to conclude that Cady did not commit the crime of which he was accused. For those of you who saw the movie, you know how angry Cady was when he got out of jail. And you also know that Cady’s vengeance is taken out on his lawyer, not on the jury that actually put him in jail.

 

Let me suggest that the in the theoretical Case of 9/11, you, the American people, are very much like the members of the jury, just as and the criminal corporate media parallel the lawyer in the film. In a sense, as you will see a bit later, you also become one of the condemned defendants in the case of 9/11. In attempting to influence the jury as they try to determine what happened on 9/11, the criminal corporate media, like Cady’s lawyer, withheld evidence from you, the jury. Based on the cherry-picked evidence selected and presented to you, you were intentionally misled to draw prescribed conclusions related to the case. As a result, you easily found the defendant guilty. As a matter of fact the media in this case made sure that you pre-convicted the prescribed accused before they even presented any evidence to you.

 

But what you did not know when you reached your verdict was that you had not been allowed to see a massive amount of available evidence. The intent of the lawyer was to ensure a conviction, not to expose the truth. For example, in this predetermined trial, among so much more, you were never told about:

 

* A large organized group of highly placed people with known motives to commit the crime in question had far better opportunity to do so.

 

* Aspects of the crime that the accused could not possibly have carried out, such ordering NORAD not to follow procedures, preventing the US Secret Service from doing its job by immediately moving the president to a safe location once they knew the nation was under attack.

 

* Eyewitness testimony directly relating to the events of that day.

 

* Evidence of foreknowledge by people other than the accused.

 

* Scientific evidence that contradicts the official story by stating that pools of molten metal (much hotter than burning jet fuel ) burned below the collapsed building for weeks, by questioning how the buildings could have collapsed at faster than free fall speed, and by challenging the scientific accuracy of evaporating planes and impossible maneuvers by jet airliners..

 

* And here is the more tragic irony. At the same time that you convicted a defendant on largely unsupported and highly unbelievable evidence, you actually sentenced YOURSELF as well. In this farce of a trial, you condemned yourself to an eternal post 9/11 nightmare world you could never have otherwise imagined!

 

 

You sentenced yourself to accepting the elimination of your own Constitutional rights. You sentenced yourself to supporting the use of your tax dollars for egregious and illegal assaults on other nations. You sentenced yourself to allowing the reduction of funding for vital domestic programs. In a nutshell, you sentenced yourself to supporting a foreign and domestic policy that has weakened almost every imaginable aspect of our nation.

All this has happened because evidence was withheld from you, making it impossible for you to seek the truth with any credible tools at your disposal. But, fortunately, that does not have to be the end of the story.

 

I submit to you that the Internet has served the American people in the same way that prison library served Max Cady. As we read and access legitimate public records on the Internet, we see more and more of the evidence that the lawyer (the criminal corporate media) withheld from us. And with each piece of evidence we find, we understandably become more and more angry with the lawyer – in fact, the corrupt corporate media - who was supposed to work on our behalf!

 

As a result, the criminal corporate media have a lot to fear. They have to fear the response of the American people who may one day discover that they not only withheld evidence from the public, but duped the people of this country into supporting the actual criminals who committed atrocities against them on 9/11.

 

I learned this lesson before 9/11. I started TvNewsLIES.org while I still believed the official explanation of 9.11 but still had the US corporate media tagged as America’s #1 Enemy! I use 9/11 often in my writing because it is an issue that hits home with the American people. It is something they can understand. It is something that they experienced. The media have acted against the interest of the American people for generations, allowing a small group of powerful people to pretty much have their way with us and the planet in general..

 

Maybe 9/11 can serve as an eye opener and jolt the people into recognizing the US corporate media as the enemy. We don’t need media reform in this nation, we need media replacement. We need a real news industry, one that understands why its vocation is the only one protected by thy US Constitution. We don’t need a media with incestuous connections to the CIA or nefarious secret organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg Group). We don’t need journalists who report American Idol scandals; we need journalists to keep an eye on our government and show us every last piece of evidence they uncover about their misdeeds.

 

I often wonder what would happen if enough establishment institutions were to become really informed about 9/11. I have to believe that many Americans would probably accept the idea that 9/11 was an inside job and somehow justify it in their mind and heart. But I also wonder what would happen if a great many other people were like me and would not be OK with it. I often wonder how these people would react and who would be the target of their rage. But wondering aside, I know how I am reacting right now, and whom I want to punish. I am sure I am not alone when it comes to being angry with those who lie to protect the real criminals…and that’s why the media are becoming more and more terrified of any discussion about 9/11. Exposing the evidence can serve to wake up the millions of falsely imprisoned victims of their deception. And that can be fatal for the criminal corporate media.

 

The 9/11 truth movement can only grow. It’s not about theories. It’s not about accusations. It’s not about speculation. It’s about the official public body of evidence and how much of it has been kept from us, misrepresented and in some cased totally fabricated. You don’t have to convince people of a theory; all you have to do is show them the evidence. And the longer the criminal corporate media continue to withhold evidence, the harder it will be to explain to the growing body of very angry Max Cadys out there, why they have done so. Think about it.

Belgium Film Festival.....

 

 

Congratulations to part 1 of "9/11 Mysteries". The 1hr 30min Part 1 "Demolitions" has been accepted for Liege, Belgium's International Film Festival.

 

http://www.proxiliege.net/index.php?page=article&id=1779&idrub=27

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Video - Part I

 

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Not about 9/11 directly....but great stuff.

9/11 WTC Building 7 New Footage

 

Timothy Riley

http://www.opednews.com

Sunday April 8, 2007

 

Compilation of falling Building 7 clips taken from various different news broadcasts on September 11 2001. Includes some previously unseen footage.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_08VwJRP-Xc

Wheres the complication? Even the reporters admited it had been on fire for hours. What kind of old building is designed for that? Also honestly when the last guy says it looks alot like other buildings that have been demolished... duuuuuuuuhhhh!!! Let me know of another way a building is going to fall. Its called gravity. These buildings arent trees and are not going to tip over...

DOUBLE POST

State Sponsored Terror in the Western World

 

Philip Coppens

Nexus Magazine

Monday April 9, 2007

 

Most terrorist attacks in Europe, whether attributed to left-wing or right-wing activists or even Islamist fundamentalists, can be traced to actions by government-sponsored military or intelligence agencies.

 

Inner Terror: Your Government Doesn't Mind Killing You

One of the most controversial and least discussed aspects of Western society is the notion that Western governments would be able to, let alone actually, kill their own civilians. But is reality far worse than what we seem incapable of imagining?

 

In the movie V for Vendetta, a police detective ponders: "I want to ask a question. I don't care whether you answer me or not. I just need to ask this aloud... The question that I have to ask is: what if the worst and most horrifying attack in this country's history was not the work of religious extremists?" His assistant objects: "We know it was. They were caught. They confessed." The detective adds: "And they were executed. I know. And maybe that's really what happened... What if someone else killed all those people? Would you really want to know who that was? Even if it was someone working for this government? That's my question. If our own government was responsibleÉwas responsible for the deaths of almost 100,000 people, would you really want to know?"

 

On 31 December 2006, three people were killed in the Thai capital Bangkok. The military-backed interim regime blamed the ousted prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra, and his supporters as prime suspects. But US security expert Zachary Abuza said that "it could be the military trying to justify further crackdowns",1 thus demonising the former prime minister so that it could continue to enforce martial law. Whom to believe?

 

One of the major stumbling blocks to accepting a major conspiracy (such as the claim that 9/11 was an "inside job" performed or allowed by the authorities) is the unwillingness to believe that a nation's institutions would kill its own civilians. Thailand is not a stable Western nation and many believe that the Western world is free of such atrocious acts, whereas the sad truth is that since World War II many Western nations have seen a long series of state-sponsored terrorism-directed against its own citizens.

 

Russia's 9/99 bombings and the stifling of dissent

The deceased Russian dissident and former spy Alexander Litvinenko argued in his book Blowing Up Russia: Terror from Within that certain Russian terrorist attacks had been engineered by the Kremlin. He alleged that agents from the FSB (Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, the successor to the KGB) co-ordinated the September 1999 bombings (popularly referred to as the 9/99 bombings) that killed more than 300 people during explosions in three apartment buildings in the capital Moscow and the southern Russian city of Volgodonsk in a period of two weeks.2 The Russian authorities, directed by the newly appointed prime minister Vladimir Putin, blamed the bombings on Chechen separatists and, in response, ordered the invasion of Chechnya.

 

Former FSB officer Litvinenko, Johns Hopkins University and Hoover Institute scholar David Satter3 and Russian lawmaker Sergei Yushenkov have asserted that the bombings were actually "false flag" attacks perpetrated by the FSB in order to legitimate the resumption of military activities in Chechnya and bring Vladimir Putin to the Kremlin and the FSB to power. False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations or other organisations, which are designed to appear as if they were carried out by other entities than the ones really responsible. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colours, which was practised in both naval and land warfare. A famous example is Operation Greif, led by Otto Skorzeny,4 in which he ordered his men into action in American uniforms during the final stages of World War II.

 

Litvinenko, Satter and Yushenkov thus charged Putin with ordering state-sponsored terrorism, aimed at its own nation, killing 300 innocent citizens. This is not just a conspiracy theory emanating from Russian dissidents or critics of Putin's regime.

 

Shortly after the final attack (when a truck bomb exploded on 16 September outside a nine-storey apartment complex in the city of Volgodonsk, killing 17 people), FSB operatives were caught by local police and citizens in the city of Ryazan planting a bomb with a detonator in the basement of an apartment building at 14/16 Novosyelov on the night of 22 September 1999.5 An alert resident of the building noticed strangers moving heavy sugar sacks into the basement from a car. Explosives experts found that the bomb tested positive for hexogen and all roads from the town were brought under heavy surveillance, but no leads were found. A telephone service employee tapped into long-distance phone calls and managed to detect a conversation in which an out-of-town person suggested to take care and to watch for patrols. That person's number was found to belong to an FSB office in Moscow.

 

On 24 September, Nikolai Patrushev, the head of the FSB, stated that the bomb had been a dummy and that the entire operation was a training exercise.6 The original chemical test was declared "inaccurate" due to contamination of the analysis apparatus from a previous test. As a consequence, the General Prosecutor's office closed the criminal investigation in April 2000.

 

But despite these official denials, Yuri Tkachenko, the explosives expert who defused the bomb, insisted that it was real.7 Tkachenko also said that the explosives, including a timer, power source and detonator, were genuine military equipment. He added that the gas analyser that tested the vapours coming from the sacks unmistakably indicated the presence of hexogen-not sugar, as the FSB officially claimed. The police officers who answered the original call and discovered the bomb also insisted that the incident was not an exercise and that it was obvious from its appearance that the substance in the bomb was not sugar.8

 

Litvinenko's prolonged fight for life following the ingestion of radionuclide polonium-210 in November 2006 was popularly depicted as Putin's revenge against this whistleblower.

 

But Litvinenko was not the only or first person to die. Sergei Yushenkov, who shared his interest in the 9/99 bombings, was gunned down at the entrance of his Moscow apartment block on 17 April 2003.9 In this case, there may not be a direct relationship with the 9/99 bombings, as Yushenkov was a member of parliament and the ninth member of parliament to be shot dead in as many years, none of the cases ever having been solved. Still, one member of the Liberal Russia party, Yuly Rybakov, speculated in the Moscow Times newspaper that Yushenkov could have been killed for his attempts to show that the security services are guilty of the 9/99 bombings.10

 

Yushenkov had been responsible for inviting Mikhail Trepashkin,11 a Moscow attorney and a former FSB agent, to assist with an independent investigation of the 9/99 bombings. After Yushenkov's death and the collapse of the official investigation, two Russian-American sisters Tatyana and Alyona Morozova, whose mother was killed in the 9/99 bombings, hired Trepashkin to represent them.12

 

While preparing for the trial of the two Russian Muslims who were officially charged with the attacks, Trepashkin uncovered a trail of a mysterious suspect whose description had disappeared from the files. The suspect turned out to be one of his former FSB colleagues. He also found a witness who testified that evidence was doctored to lead the investigation away from incriminating the FSB.

On 22 October 2003, a week before the hearings commenced, Trepashkin was arrested after what appeared to be a traffic stop when, he claims, FSB agents stationed on the side of the road tossed a satchel with a stolen handgun into his vehicle. Trepashkin was imprisoned, unable to attend the hearings and thus smoothing the path for an easy conviction of the two Muslim suspects. However, the Trepashkin story made it into the Western media and on 20 May 2004, an article in the Los Angeles Times gave an overview of his tribulations, adding that the central suspect was FSB agent Vladimir Romanovich.

 

According to Trepashkin, Romanovich was an FSB contact charged with infiltrating Chechen criminal groups in Moscow. As evidence, Trepashkin referred to Romanovich's mysterious release from custody after an arrest by the organised crime squad several years before. Trepashkin added that Romanovich was recognised by the landlord at one of the apartment buildings. The landlord, Mark Blumenfeld, confirmed that he had worked with the FSB on a sketch of the man he'd seen, only to be cast aside when his composite bore no resemblance to Gochiyayev, the man whom officials had identified as one of the masterminds behind the bombing. Romanovich subsequently died in a car crash in Cyprus.13

 

In 2003, Yuri Shchekochikhin, another MP who was on the independent 9/99 commission, died in mysterious circumstances and is believed to have been poisoned. Shchekochikhin was taken ill suddenly and developed awful symptoms: his skin peeled, he was covered in boils, his hair fell out and he eventually suffered respiratory failure. His colleagues were unable to investigate his death because they were told that the autopsy results were secret and would not be released even to his relatives. Shchekochikhin was also an editor at Novaya Gazeta, the independent newspaper where Anna Politkovskaya, the fierce Kremlin critic, worked until she was gunned down in October 2006, weeks before Litvinenko died in a London hospital.14

 

NATO's secret war in Belgium

Whereas in the aftermath of Litvinenko's mysterious death in November 2006 people were willing to entertain that Putin could order attacks against his own citizens, "surely" Putin's Western equivalents, George W. Bush and Tony Blair, would be unable to? And as such, a "conspiracy theory" hits its major hurdle: the willingness to accept one scenario, yet reject an identical scenario elsewhereÑcloser to if not at home.

 

Let us therefore begin in Belgium. In 1983, the Cellules Communistes Combattantes (CCC) was founded in Belgium and claimed to be the only Marxist revolutionary organisation that would wage an armed fight against the capitalist system. In 1984 and 1985, 28 "terrorist" attacks were committed by the CCC, allegedly in the hope of engaging the "proletariat" in its revolution. The figure of 28 is actually a record number when it comes to armed terrorist attacks by one group in Western Europe.15 The CCC targets were, like 9/11 but unlike the 7/7 London bombings, flagships of the Western economy and American hegemony: factories that produced military equipment, the headquarters of political parties or offices, military infrastructure, the police force, a NATO oil pipeline and banks. The CCC furthermore operated not in one specific region but across Belgium, which underlined their capability to strike anywhereÑand cause fear anywhere. On 1 May 1985, the group exploded a small van that was placed in front of a government office but, unfortunately, two firefighters died in this explosion. "Unfortunate", for the CCC's campaigns were organised to minimise, if not exclude, a human death toll. Indeed, this makes the CCC not fit neatly into those attacks in which civilian casualties are acceptable. But this was just stage one.

 

The CCC became part of the government investigation after Belgium, together with Switzerland and Italy, set up parliamentary commissions following the discoveries of "stay-behind armies" in 1990. The scope of the investigation was the extent to which the existence of a national secret army, co-ordinated by NATO (and inspired by the US and the UK in the wake of World War II) within several NATO and non-NATO states, had interfered with these democracies.

 

The Belgian defence minister, the Socialist Guy Co‘me, who stated to have been unaware of the existence of the secret armies, had this to say about this secret army's involvement with terrorism: "Furthermore, I want to know whether there exists a link between the activities of this secret network and the wave of crime and terror which our country suffered from during the past years."16

 

Co‘me was referring to the years 1983 to 1985 and the CCC, but also to a series of brutal robberies and attacks by the so-called Nijvel gang, in which the geographic area around Brussels saw 14 brutal terrorist attacks on shoppers in supermarkets. These attacks left 28 people dead and many more injured in a series of 17 burglaries and armed robberies, which in late 1985 turned extremely violent. In the three final attacks, 16 people died during armed robberies in supermarkets in Braine-l'Alleud, Overijse and Aalst, the gang stealing (in total) not more than US$56,000 (reducing a human life to $3,500).17

 

The Belgian Senate inquiry revealed that the secret army was staffed by Belgian citizens and took its orders from the Belgian State Security, the equivalent of the Russian FBS or the American CIA. The cell was code-named SDRA8 and was directly linked to NATO's stay-behind centres, the Allied Clandestine Committee (ACC) and the Clandestine Planning Committee (CPC). However, the Senate inquiry was unable to clarify whether the secret army had anything to do with the Nijvel gang murders, as the Belgian military secret service refused to co-operate.

 

Several journalists, including Allan Francovich, suggested that SDRA8 had linked up with the Belgian right-wing organisation Westland New Post (WNP), an opinion that was confirmed by WNP member Michel Libert, who stated during a televised interview that he had been told by his SDRA8 handlers that: "'You, Mr Libert, know nothing about why we're doing this. Nothing at all. All we ask is that your group, with cover from the Gendarmerie, with cover from Security, carry out a job. Target: the supermarkets. Where are they? What kind of locks are there? What sort of protection do they have that could interfere with our operations? Does the store manager lock up? Or do they use an outside security company?'" Libert added: "We carried out the orders and sent in our reports: hours of opening and closing. Everything you want to know about a supermarket. What was this for? This was one amongst hundreds of missions. Something that had to be done. But the use it was all put to, that is the big question."18 A "big question" that would soon be answered, and which had a human death toll of twenty-eight.

 

The logical conclusion is that there was a NATO-sponsored secret army operating within Belgium, apparently outside the knowledge and control of the government itself.

 

A most interesting statement came from a member of the inquiry, Hugo Van Dienderen, who said: "This secret network did more than prepare for a war against a Communist threat... Agents tried to infiltrate peace movements. Certain American groups tried to contact them... A former director of the CIA [William Colby] leaves no doubt that it was their intelligence agencies that were at the basis of these networks."19

 

When Jean Bultot, one of the suspected killers in the supermarket murders, spoke from his hideout in Paraguay, he stipulated that certain members of the gang were indeed part of the national intelligence network. He added, without being asked, that the activities of the CCC followed the same formula.

 

Two police officers, Martial Lekeu and Robert Beijer, made similar statements. According to Lekeu: "There must exist a type of organisation between the members of the national intelligence agency, the gendarmes and the judiciary department.

In my opinion, the attacks of the CCC are part of the same plan. One of the caches of the CCC was hired by a brother of a member of the State Security."20

 

And thus, the two terror campaigns that Belgium witnessed in the early 1980s were apparently carried out by a group of Belgians operating as a secret army, sponsored by an organisation-NATO-to which Belgium not only belonged but whose headquarters it actually hosted.

 

Furthermore, though politicians were apparently unaware, the Belgian intelligence agencies were not, and they specifically and consistently accused "communists" (the CCC) as well as the "extreme right" (the Nijvel gang) of carrying out terror activity, whereas they were actually part of the planners if not executioners. Remarkably, in 1985, despite never-before-seen protest marches, NATO installed nuclear missiles in Belgium. This time, it seems the intended goal was not an invasionÉ

 

In 1995, the Belgian Chamber of Representatives organised a parliamentary inquiry into the effectiveness of the Belgian police and judiciary with regard to the Nijvel gang investigation. The conclusions of this inquiry, as well as the earlier Senate inquiry on SDRA8 and the Chamber inquiry on banditry, resulted in the preparation of new legislation governing the mission and methods of the Belgian State Security, which was passed in 1998.

 

Unlike the US government with its so-called Patriot Act, which was signed into law on 26 October 2001 in the aftermath of 9/11, the Belgian government decided to contain the powers of the intelligence and law enforcement network as much as possible, so that the wilful complicity of the Belgian State Security in allowing, if not organising, the deaths of people it was supposed to protect would not happen again.

 

Gladio's terror campaign in Italy

The scope of Belgium's state-sponsored terrorism is minimal compared to in Italy, where the then prime minister Guilio Andreotti stated in August 1990 that the report into Gladio21 (the local name for the stay-behind networks) confirmed that in his country, too, Gladio had been run by NATO with funding from the CIA.

 

As early as 1983, the Italian intelligence agencies had published a study on international arms trafficking which stated that in 1969, with the agreement of Alexander Haig and Henry Kissinger (Haig was Military Assistant to the Presidential Assistant for National Security Affairs, Kissinger), the Italian secret services recruited 400 military officers within the freemasonic Propagande Due (P2) lodge. (Interestingly, the Swiss stay-behind network was known as P26.) This was later confirmed by former CIA agent Richard Brenneke, who worked as an arms trafficker within Gladio. Brenneke stated that the US government had $10 million per month at its disposal for this service. Brenneke added that P2 "...was used during the 1970s to let Italian terrorism explode, as well as in other countries. This lodge is still active."22

 

Brenneke was specifically referring to one of the cruellest terrorist attacks that occurred in Europe before the new threat of "Islamist fundamentalism" was identified: the 1980 Bologna massacre. The Bologna massacre was a terrorist bombing at the city's central station on the morning of 2 August 1980; it killed 85 people and wounded more than two hundred. The timed explosive device was left in an unattended suitcase inside a waiting room, the subsequent explosion destroying the roof, which collapsed onto the passengers.

 

The Italian government, led by Francesco Cossiga, and police authorities first thought that the blast might have been accidental, then tried to suggest that the militant Red Brigades (communists, of course) were responsible for the bombing. But it was then discovered that the bombs came from an arsenal used by Gladio, and the awful truth slowly began to dawn.

 

The commission into this terrorist attack reached its conclusion in 1986, after years of sabotage by the Italian State Security apparatus. The conclusion was that "a private structure existed in Italy which was composed of military people and citizens who co-operated, with the express goal of influencing democracy through non-democratic means".

 

To achieve this goal, the group used terrorist attacks organised by neo-fascist movements. "There was an invisible government, in which the lodge P2, certain levels of the secret services, organised crime and terrorism were intimately connected," concluded the judges. Subsequent investigations reached the same conclusion: "During several years, a clandestine group, with extra-institutional connections, operated in our country with the goal to politically condition the democracy and to acquire personal power. To achieve its goal, this group used terrorism." In short, a nation's authorities, specifically its intelligence agencies, had organised a terrorism campaign, killing innocent civilians in an effort to "condition the democracy"-condition the people, that is, in an effort to prove that there was an enemy out there, even inside, intent on killing them.23

 

As a consequence, the term "strategy of tension" was coined. It is described as a way to control and manipulate public opinion using fear, propaganda, disinformation, psychological warfare, agents provocateurs and false-flag terrorist actions. Throughout the 1980s, the suspected aim of these actions was to make the public believe that the bombings were committed by a communist insurgency, with the cause being not to create an authoritarian government (which itself was a victim of this campaign) but to make sure that the people accepted the need for NATO and the need for weapons on its soilÑaimed firmly at the enemy "out there" who, as the terrorist campaign had proven, was inside as well. In the cases of Belgium and Italy, the governments fought back and came down against the self-granted, illegal powers of its security services.

 

Eventually it was found that Gladio's first terror campaign in Italy dated back to 12 December 1969, when a bomb exploded in the National Agrarian Bank in Piazza Fontana, in Milan's centre, killing 16 people and wounding up to ninety. Giuseppe Pinelli, a young anarchist, was first accused of the crime. Pinelli then suffered a suspicious death, which the authorities labelled as suicide.

 

But there was more to come. General Gerardo Serravalle, the head from 1971 to 1974 of "Office R" (the office that controlled Gladio from within the Italian military secret service, SIFAR), told the terrorism commission that, at a crucial Gladio meeting in 1972, at least half of the upper echelons "...had the idea of attacking the communists before an invasion. They were preparing for civil war." Later, he put it more bluntly: "They were saying this: 'Why wait for the invaders when we can make a pre-emptive attack now on the communists who would support the invader?'"24

 

If we are to transpose this onto 9/11, we should note that there is substantial evidence that al-Qaeda was indeed planning an attack on the United States. But was 9/11 an attack or a "pre-emptive strike"?

 

General Serravalle was not alone. Avanguardia Nazionale member Vincenzo Vinciguerra confessed in 1984 to judge Felice Casson of having carried out the 31 May 1972 Peteano terrorist attack, in which three policemen died and for which the communist Red Brigades had previously been blamed. Vinciguerra explained during his trial how he had been helped by Italian secret services to escape the police and to fly away to Spain-very much like Belgian terrorists were able to escape to Paraguay.

Vinciguerra confirmed Serravalle's warnings: "I say that every single outrage that followed from 1969 fitted into a single, organised matrix... Avanguardia Nazionale, like Ordine Nuovo [the main right-wing terrorist group active during the 1970s], was being mobilised into the battle as part of an anti-communist strategy originating not with organisations deviant from the institutions of power, but from within the state itself, and specifically from within the ambit of the state's relations within the Atlantic Alliance [NATO]... The December 1969 explosion [in the Piazza Fontana] was supposed to be the detonator which would have convinced the political and military authorities to declare a state of emergency."25

The European stance against US-sponsored terror

On 22 November 1990, the European Parliament passed a resolution condemning Gladio, requesting full investigations-which have yet to be carried out-and the total dismantling of these paramilitary structures-which has not yet been proven.

 

The EP, in its resolution, condemned "the existence for 40 years of a clandestine parallel intelligence" as well as an "armed operations organisations in several Member States of the Community" which "escaped all democratic controls and has been run by the secret services of the states concerned in collaboration with NATO", itself sponsored by the American CIA. In this resolution, the EP denounced the "danger that such clandestine network may have interfered illegally in the internal political affairs of Member States or may still do so", especially before the fact that "in certain Member States military secret services (or uncontrolled branches thereof) were involved in serious cases of terrorism and crime". The European Parliament obviously held the US responsible, for it made the extraordinary directive that the United States Government should receive a copy of the resolution.26

 

The full investigations have not yet occurred; hence, on the American State Department website, we can read a denial of any involvement: "...West European 'stay-behind' networks engaged in terrorism, allegedly at US instigation... This is not true."27

Or is it? Richard Brenneke was a stay-behind insider. And it is thus perhaps unsurprising that his name comes up in a "terrorist" and "Islamist" campaign, in which the lives of 66 US citizens were treated as pawns in a political manoeuvre in which the goal was to determine who would occupy the Oval Office between 1981 and 1984.

 

The Iran hostage crisis took place from 4 November 1979 until 20 January 1981. During the crisis, the "Muslim Student Followers of the Imam's Line" held hostage 63 diplomats and three other US citizens inside the American diplomatic mission in Tehran. During the 444-day period, the hostage-takers released several captives, leaving 53 hostages at the end. The United States launched a rescue operation, Operation Eagle Claw, which failed and which caused the deaths of eight servicemen. Some historians consider the crisis to have been a primary reason for US President Jimmy Carter's loss in his re-election bid for the presidency in 1980. But that is not all.

 

A BAC 1-11 aircraft left Andrews Air Force Base in the late afternoon of 19 October 1980, its destination Paris, France. Among its passengers were: Richard Brenneke; William Casey, soon to be director of the US Central Intelligence Agency; Donald Greggs, soon to be US ambassador to South Korea; and George H. Bush, future vice-president and president of the United States and former director of the CIA under President Ford.

 

Officially, Bush claims he spent the weekend at Andrews Air Force Base, which is of course not exclusive with what Brenneke has said about Bush; Brenneke merely adds that Bush left Andrews AFB on a secret mission that weekend.28 The incident has become known as the "October Surprise" and Brenneke was the first to testify, for which he was charged with perjury though a Federal jury later acquitted him, upholding his testimony that the flight actually took place.

 

The crux of the October Surprise is that an agreement was made between Bush and Casey and the government of Iran to delay the release of American hostages until after the November 1980 election. Bush, while in Paris, met with Hashemi Rafsanjani, the second in command to the Ayatollah and later the president of Iran, and Adnan Khashoggi, a controversial Saudi Arabian businessman. Arrangements were apparently made to pay Iran US$40 million to delay the release of hostages in order to thwart President Jimmy Carter's re-election bid. The October Surprise would grow into the "Iran-Contra scandal", but it seems that in this long series of scandals and abuse of power, the initial claim-namely, that civilians were used for political purposes-was forgotten. Most importantly, the statement that the US "does not negotiate with terrorists" was here exposed as the greatest of lies.

 

Finally, we note that in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, several Saudi Arabians, including members of the bin Laden family, were allowed to fly out of America at a time when another member of the bin Ladens was identified as the main culprit in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The comparison to Jean Bultot and Vincenzo Vinciguerra and their flights to safety following their terrorist attacks is no doubt too logical and simple to be the truth.

 

The sad truth is that state-sponsored terrorism is not an invention of the post-World War II political climate. There is a long list of military false-flag attacks that have served as pretexts for war. In the Gleiwitz incident in 1939, Reinhard Heydrich fabricated evidence of a Polish attack to mobilise German public opinion and to fabricate a false justification for a war with Poland-the start of World War II. In the 1931 Mukden Incident (often referred to as the "September 18 Incident"), Japanese officers fabricated a pretext for annexing Manchuria by blowing up a section of railway.

 

The planned, but never executed, 1962 Operation Northwoods plot by the US administration for a war with Cuba involved scenarios such as hijacking a civilian passenger plane and blaming it on Cuba (though in this scenario, no US citizens would die, as only military personnel would board the plane as civilians and the plane would later be substituted by a drone). It is clear that in 1999, the Russian state, specifically the security service, planted bombs in people's apartments in an effort to blame Chechen rebels and to restart a war and again invade Chechnya. Dare we ask whether 9/11 followed the scenario of 9/99, whereby sections of the US intelligence agencies planted bombs and carried out terrorist attacks, killing 2,973 civilians, in an effort to blame Islamist fundamentalists and to start wars by invading Afghanistan and Iraq?

 

If 9/11 and 9/99 eventually turn out to be proved as state-sponsored terrorist acts (noting that it took Italy 15 years before such conclusions were reached for their own internal atrocities), both incidents will only be set apart from the rest because of the massive human death toll. On average, less than a hundred civilians "need" to die for the government to invade a country. In 1999, 300 Russians died; in 2001, 2,973 Americans died. °

 

About the Author:

He has previously contributed seven articles to NEXUS, the most recent being "Ezekiel's Code and the Ark of the Covenant" (see 13/06). His website is http://www. philipcoppens.com, and he can be contacted by email at [email protected].

Endnotes

Several books on Gladio, the CCC and the Nijvel gang have been written in Dutch and French, amongst these a series of books by the Belgian investigative journalist Hugo Gijsels. Equally, a lot of sources on the Russian bombings are in Russian. Below, an effort has been made to quote as many English-language, Internet-based resources as possible. Though this has resulted in a slightly less authoritative look for these sources, they do show the difficulty that English-speaking people have in collating the various pieces of the Gladio puzzle.

1. Associated Press, January 1, 2007, reported in various newspapers and online, e.g., Taiwan News Online, http://tinyurl.com/tyew8

2. Various sources, including http://eng.terror99.ru/

3. Satter, David, Darkness at Dawn: The Rise of the Russian Criminal State, Yale University Press, 2003; http://www.hoover.org/bios/satter

4. http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Operation:Greif.htm

5. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-satter043002.asp

http://www.sais-jhu.edu/programs/res/papers/Satter_edited_final.pdf

6. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19795

7. Various sources, including http://tinyurl.com/yy7stz

8. Satter, David, "The Shadow of Ryazan: Is Putin's government legitimate?", National Review, April 30, 2002; Satter, Darkness at Dawn, op. cit.; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

9. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2958997.stm

10. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2958997.stm

11. Various sources, including http://eng.trepashkin.ru/

An independent documentary Nedoverie ("Disbelief") about their campaign was made by Russian director Andrei Nekrasov and premiered at the 2004 Sundance Film Festival; http://tinyurl.com/y2puus

13. Various sources, including http://eng.terror99.ru/who_is_who/index/

http://www.diacritica.com/communique/content/issuefour/e.html

14. http://www.yabloko.ru/Publ/2006/2006_06/060620_novg_shekoch.html

15. Cellules Communistes Combattantes, http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/

16. Various sources, inc. http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/gladio.htm, http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/synopsis.htm

17. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nijvel_gang

18. Various sources, including http://tinyurl.com/584ol and http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/synopsis.htm

19. Various sources, including http://tinyurl.com/y452cs

20. Various sources, including http://tinyurl.com/yyghop (noteworthy for being a site by students for students), but also http://tinyurl.com/vddm5. The best overview of Gladio in Belgium is Hugo Gijsels, Netwerk Gladio, Kritak, Leuven, Belgium, 1991.

21. For a general overview of material on Gladio as a whole, see: http://users.skynet.be/terrorism/html/italy_gladio.htm

22. Various, including http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/gladio.htm

23. Willems, Jan (ed.), Gladio, EPO, 1991, see http://tinyurl.com/u9v2c

24. "Secret agents, freemasons, fascists and a top-level campaign of political 'destabilisation'", The Guardian, 5 December 1990; see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

25. Various sources, including http://tinyurl.com/y3g67j

26. Joint resolution replacing B3-2021, 2058, 2068, 2078 and 2087/90, available at http://tinyurl.com/y3yjq2

27. http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-127177.html

28. http://sonic.net/sentinel/usa3.html; http://tinyurl.com/y3yjq2

I love how that first thing you post is about a movie, Thats priceless... Second most of these examples have nothing to do with the U.S., Russia and Italy are totally different style countries. Furthermore, an example where 3 people died is hardly comparable to 9/11.

 

On average, less than a hundred civilians "need" to die for the government to invade a country. In 1999, 300 Russians died; in 2001, 2,973 Americans died.

 

Exactly my point. You sure do a good job of proving yourself wrong...

If we did do this to ourselves why the overkill? And why would we crash into the pentagon and kill GOVERNMENT WORKERS? Seems to me we would need both the people and the building in a war...

Why the overkill?

 

The endless "War on Terror" is why it needed to look so bad. Immediate hate for anyone who even looks muslim. Allowing the Governments around the globe to get involved the the phony war on terror. It's what was needed to create a situation where the governmant could just mention "since 9/11" in a sentence and then get anything they need, money, congressional support for passing endless freedom stealing laws.

 

And I posted the "State Sponsored Terror in the Western World" because it's relevent. The isn't an anti US issue....it's anti 'New World Order'.

 

Those few government workers who died mean nothing to the people who orchestrated it all. We don't even here about who they were. They are replaceable to the criminals. And the Pentagon was still almost fully operational afterwards.

 

The 9/11 lie is eventually unfolding though...and the government actually know this.

Interviews from Irvine conference (March 2007)

 

9/11 Conf. Irvine, CA 3/11/07 : Tarpley, Rodriguez, Thottam

 

we shot these down at the Irvine conference in March...

 

produced by: Orange County 9/11 Truth & Justice....

 

our blog:

 

 

http:hb911truth.blogspot.com

 

 

Webster Tarpley http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7190733348776830380&hl=nl

 

And William Rodriguez http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2028584185822206796&hl=nl

9/11 Truth: Disinformation & Terrorism - Jim Bamford

 

9/11 Blogger

Tuesday April 10, 2007

Jim Bamford, who discovered the Northwoods Document, discusses plans for the Iraq Invasion going back to 1996 with Neo-Conservative ties to Israeli interests. Does the death of William Colby [former CIA director] and Vince Foster for that matter have anything to do with what was told to fyi6reSEARCH back in the late 90's - that Colby was 'offed' because of his soon-to-be public objection to the "D-Plan" [disinformation]? And is this plan far more reaching than we can imagine, stretching into a far more pervasive form of "Operation Mockingbird"?

 

Google Search "a clean break" and "Operation Mockingbird"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq0dtMDa9Jo

Wednesday, April 18, 2007

 

Military Leaders Question 9/11

 

 

Numerous high-level U.S. military leaders have publicly questioned 9/11. The following is just a small sample*:

 

Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (if you suspect he is a closet liberal, take a look at his bio)

 

Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions, stated that 9/11 was an inside job (he also said "If our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the twin towers would still be standing, and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason")

 

U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal stated that "there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a 'conspiracy Theory' does not change the truth. It seems, 'Something is rotten in the State.'"

 

President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguish Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals, is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11

 

20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).

 

U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe said "We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time."

 

Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious

 

Lieutenant colonel, 24-year Air Force career, Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute said "Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism."

 

Two-Star general questions the attack on the Pentagon

 

 

 

U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career, believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:

"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...

 

Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.

 

If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? ....

 

Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ..."

 

U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career said the following:

"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....

 

Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

 

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"

 

Former army captain and intelligence officer said this:

"As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril...

 

Now I view the 911 event . . . as a matter that implies either

 

A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...

 

B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ..."

Numerous military leaders from allied governments have also questioned 9/11, such as:

 

Assistant German Defense Minister

 

Canadian Minister of Defense

 

High-ranking general and the chief of NATO regarding bombs in the Twin Towers (in Danish)

 

Commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force

 

Chief of staff of the Russian armed forces

 

This is just a sampling of military leaders who question 9/11. And hundreds of high-level government officials, such as senators and congressmen, FBI, CIA and other high-level intelligence officers, heads of allied governments, government scientists, terrorism experts and even 9/11 Commissioners question 9/11. See this web page, the top of this webpage, and this website.

9/11 Heroes Get Screwed Over Again

Court Backs EPA Chief in 9/11 Toxins Case

 

JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN

New York Sun

Friday, April 20, 2007

 

A federal appellate court has decided that it was not "conscience-shocking" for the head of the Environmental Protection Agency to have reassured New Yorkers that the air near ground zero was safe following the September 11, 2001, "terrorist" attacks, even if the air was toxic.

 

Yesterday's decision by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals throws out a lawsuit against a former leader of the EPA, Christine Whitman.

 

The panel of three judges reasoned that the government's interest in returning New York to normalcy following the attacks should protect it from lawsuits alleging that the government made false statements about air quality. The court did not make any factual finding as to the quality of the air, or as to whether the EPA had intentionally misled the public, which Ms. Whitman has denied doing.

 

"When great harm is likely to befall someone no matter what a government official does, the allocation of risk may be a burden on the conscience of the one who must make such decisions, but does not shock the contemporary conscience," the circuit's chief judge, Dennis Jacobs, wrote. "These principles apply notwithstanding the great service rendered by those who repaired New York, the heroism of those who entered the site when it was unstable and on fire, and the serious health consequences that are plausibly alleged."

 

Whether a government official's actions are "conscience-shocking" is a legal standard that decides whether an official is liable, in certain types of lawsuits.

 

"I always thought that if you accepted they were lies — lies to get these people working down there — that those lies were inherently conscience-shocking," the lawyer who brought the case, Stephen Riegel of Weitz and Luxemberg P.C., said.

 

The lawsuit was a class action on behalf of those who searched for survivors and cleaned up ground zero following the attacks. The men now suffer respiratory ailments, Mr. Riegel said.

 

A spokesman for the Justice Department declined to comment.

 

The court's holding in this case suggests that it will also dismiss a similar suit brought on behalf of residents near to the World Trade Center. The ruling yesterday is unlikely to have a result on another class action on behalf of workers at ground zero, which was brought under a different legal theory, Mr. Riegel said.

 

The panel also included judges Reena Raggi and Robert Sack.