It's like music to the ears of the war criminals in Washington DC

 

Iran ready for showdown with US: former president

 

AFP | April 18 2006

 

Iran is ready to face a military showdown with the United States over its nuclear programme, influential former president Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said Tuesday, warning of the grave consequences of any attack.

 

Rafsanjani also issued a stern warning to Israel, insisting the Jewish state would not dare to attack the Iran which has "longer arms".

 

"We are not seeking a confrontation but, if it is imposed on us, we are prepared for it," he told a press conference at the end of a three-day visit to Kuwait.

 

"The consequences of such an attack on Iran will be very grave and they (the Americans) will not benefit from it."

 

Rafsanjani, who earlier held talks with Emir Sheikh Sabah al-Ahmad al-Sabah, said Kuwait and other Gulf Arab states had told him they would not back a US attack on Iran.

 

Rafsanjani, who lost out in elections last year to hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, remains powerful as the head of the Expediency Council, Iran's top political arbitration body.

 

His visit to Kuwait followed Iran's announcement last week that it had successfully enriched uranium to the level needed to make reactor fuel, triggering global concern about its nuclear ambitions.

 

The enrichment process can be extended to make the fissile core of an atom bomb and the UN Security Council has given Iran's hardline leadership until the end of the month to freeze the sensitive fuel cycle work.

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scary

Iran with nukes is like a terrorist group with nukes or hitler with nukes. very very dangerous and scary.

Yes....

but they might not even have nuclear weapons or wish to develop them - Lets hope not.......I don't agree with the Iranian leadership on most things but at this point there are no grounds for an attack on Iran as they have continually said that its interest in nuclear technology, including enrichment, was for civilian purposes only (a right guaranteed under the treaty).

Iran have seen what happened in Iraq and are pretty angry at the thought of things going down that route.

AND...if the U.S, UK and/or Isreal do go for the military action option based on inaccurate (or lying) intelligence or a staged terror attack (a "CIA Special") then Iran would have to right to defend itself fully and with as much force.

 

BUT if they (Iran) are proven (and I mean REALLY proven, not like last time) to have developed Nuclear Weapons after they have signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty then I think smarter means of disarmament need to be carefully looked into and move away from devestating bombing like "shock and awe".

ahhhh remember that one... 'shock and awe'??? good times, huh Nick..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:rolleyes: note*: this was sarcasm

Yes....

but they might not even have nuclear weapons or wish to develop them - Lets hope not.......I don't agree with the Iranian leadership on most things but at this point there are no grounds for an attack on Iran as they have continually said that its interest in nuclear technology, including enrichment, was for civilian purposes only (a right guaranteed under the treaty).

Iran have seen what happened in Iraq and are pretty angry at the thought of things going down that route.

AND...if the U.S, UK and/or Isreal do go for the military action option based on inaccurate (or lying) intelligence or a staged terror attack (a "CIA Special") then Iran would have to right to defend itself fully and with as much force.

 

BUT if they (Iran) are proven (and I mean REALLY proven, not like last time) to have developed Nuclear Weapons after they have signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty then I think smarter means of disarmament need to be carefully looked into and move away from devestating bombing like "shock and awe".

 

oh they have every intention of making a nuke. remember hitler said he had no interest in attacking most of europe or russia but he still did. the warning signs are all there. i dont care if iran has nuke energy for peaceful purposes but they will try to make a bomb with it and that is a threat to america, europe and israel.

 

if we know for a fact they are we have a right and a duty to stop them. We as in europe and america and israel.

 

there is no way of stopping them from getting nukes but with military action. we will not be able to use peaceful processes. it would be like trying to peacefuly getting hitler not to kill the jews

again with the Hitler comparisons..... :rolleyes: jinkies.. this is getting old... and tired to say the least.

this isnt good!

again with the Hitler comparisons..... :rolleyes: jinkies.. this is getting old... and tired to say the least.

 

so. its a accurate comparison. it should be getting old, were facing a great threat from a nation with a leader who is bad as hitler with less power.

so. its a accurate comparison. it should be getting old' date=' were facing a great threat from [b']a nation with a leader who is bad as hitler with less power.

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this is an oxymoron right here.. "as bad as Hitler with less power"? How is this possible?? :lol: Either they are or they aren't.. which one is it....

he as a person and leader is as bad as hitler but not as powerful or as dangerous as hilter was. but if he has a nuke he will be as dangerous. its possible to be as bad as something just not as powerful.

that statement still makes no sense.... sorry dude. I see what you are trying to say.. he may have the potential to be as dangerous.. but again, its 'probable'.. anything is really.

that statement still makes no sense.... sorry dude. I see what you are trying to say.. he may have the potential to be as dangerous.. but again' date=' its 'probable'.. anything is really.[/quote']

 

he is as bad as hitler and if we let him get nukes he is as much of a threat as hitler was.

^wtf, :lol:

 

This news is very scary, very scary

Oh man, there's such a lot of tension in the Middle East... those problems have to explode someday and I'm pretty sure they will.

 

Irán won't stop in its race to get into nuclear power despite any economical-political sanction the rich and powerful nations might impose. It might be because the energy, the right of Iranians for scientific knowledge or even the necesity of nuclear weapons to feel safe. The area is mostly a disaster, the neighbor Iraq is a living hell so its totally comprehensible Iranians want to be prepared for any posibility of conflict. Its really obvious they'll get nukes, not sure if they'll attack Israel but definitely they'll defend themselves if they feel menaced.

 

I think the responsability of this great nuclear tension is mostly from the United States and all countries who supported war on Iraq. which knowing the already great problems in the area because of the State of Israel and its expansion through arab territories needed to come to Iraq, invade, destroy everything, playing the world's police and turning the whole area more unstable than ever. Now as the result we have the greatest wave of worldwide terrorism ever and also the fear of a new nuclear age.

 

 

Seems the makind hasn't learn anything from history...

Iran with nukes is like a terrorist group with nukes or hitler with nukes. very very dangerous and scary.

 

 

Why you said that,there are no evidence says that and I see that Iran have the full right to have a nuclear technology even the nuclear bomb why not.

 

If USA want to reduce the nuclear power in the world,let's begin with itself and what's it mean USA going and signed an agreement with India to support her nuclear power.The nuclear power good for India and bad for Iran and everyone remember when USA attake Iraq by alleged Iraq have a weapons of mass destraction and everyone know if Iraq really have this weapones,USA didn't even think to attake.

 

So the nuclear power as a protect for Iran and the countries of the region.

If USA want to removethe Iranian nuclear let's remove the Israeli nuclear also.

 

Because ther are no wise man says it should be only nuclear power in the region.Even for the balance of power

 

And I hope no one forget North Korea

he is as bad as hitler and if we let him get nukes he is as much of a threat as hitler was.

 

 

you have no grounds for this statement.. its all 'probable'... you said so yourself.

you have no grounds for this statement.. its all 'probable'... you said so yourself.

 

the grounds for that statement are his actions as a leader and what he talks about in his speech's.

Why you said that,there are no evidence says that and I see that Iran have the full right to have a nuclear technology even the nuclear bomb why not.

 

If USA want to reduce the nuclear power in the world,let's begin with itself and what's it mean USA going and signed an agreement with India to support her nuclear power.The nuclear power good for India and bad for Iran and everyone remember when USA attake Iraq by alleged Iraq have a weapons of mass destraction and everyone know if Iraq really have this weapones,USA didn't even think to attake.

 

So the nuclear power as a protect for Iran and the countries of the region.

If USA want to removethe Iranian nuclear let's remove the Israeli nuclear also.

 

Because ther are no wise man says it should be only nuclear power in the region.Even for the balance of power

 

And I hope no one forget North Korea

 

 

its a known fact that iran supports MANY different terrorist groups. sorry but their evidence for it. countries have right to nuclear power but not nukes.

 

major difference India isnt a very dangerous terrorist nation, that threatens teh world, iran is. that is the difference. same with israel israel isnt a terrorist nation or a threat to the world with its nukes unlike iran. its like giving a criminal a gun, its just plain stupid.

Hey guys, I'm back from Florida!!!

 

Haha...im sure Gazebo hates that...

Why you said that,there are no evidence says that and I see that Iran have the full right to have a nuclear technology even the nuclear bomb why not.

 

If USA want to reduce the nuclear power in the world,let's begin with itself and what's it mean USA going and signed an agreement with India to support her nuclear power.The nuclear power good for India and bad for Iran and everyone remember when USA attake Iraq by alleged Iraq have a weapons of mass destraction and everyone know if Iraq really have this weapones,USA didn't even think to attake.

 

So the nuclear power as a protect for Iran and the countries of the region.

If USA want to removethe Iranian nuclear let's remove the Israeli nuclear also.

 

Because ther are no wise man says it should be only nuclear power in the region.Even for the balance of power

 

And I hope no one forget North Korea

 

Are you kidding me? No evidence of nuclear technology in Irarn? You might wanna reevaluate that statement.

 

Uh hum, in the mid 1990s, we completely halted our production of nuclear weapons...and cut down our nuclear weapons in half.

 

Besides, we've only used nuclear weapons on an enemy three times I think. Twice in WWII and once in the Cold War.

 

And if it weren't for the damn U.S.S.R. we wouldn't have this problem.

Are you kidding me? No evidence of nuclear technology in Irarn? You might wanna reevaluate that statement.

 

Uh hum, in the mid 1990s, we completely halted our production of nuclear weapons...and cut down our nuclear weapons in half.

 

Besides, we've only used nuclear weapons on an enemy three times I think. Twice in WWII and once in the Cold War.

 

And if it weren't for the damn U.S.S.R. we wouldn't have this problem.

 

we never used a nuke in the cold war. only used 2 on japan but they were not nearly as powerful as the ones we have now days.

And if it weren't for the damn U.S.S.R. we wouldn't have this problem.

 

 

That's opinion, not fact based. But then again, I guess it's always the commies fault.

 

 

I say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We can't expect any other country to dearm while we pick and choose who's gonna play nice and who's not (whilst toting our OWN nuclear weapons around the block). If we want them to disarm, then we need to have EVERYONE do so. It's idealistic, but hell... I'd rather be idealistic than a warmongering nuke-head!