Maybe if you know the facts and know why he do this' date='then I think you will change your opinion.[/quote']

 

There is no facts that justify the terrorist killings.

There is no facts that justify the terrorist killings.

 

 

There is no facts,really

 

Ok,but first.Please,please,please read all what I will give you

 

I will show everyone the facts

 

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676566/02_04_1.jpg.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676610/palestine2.jpg.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676644/palestine.jpg.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676707/24n_Palestinian20Child0.jpg.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676738/untitled.bmp.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676816/palestine_dead_1.jpg.html

 

I'm sorry but I don't know how to insert an image.But it will take few seconds to see

 

See also this sitehttp://www.jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/106552_comment.php

 

By the way till now you ignore my question

 

 

 

 

 

Okay. I looked at every picture and read that article on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

 

What does any of that have to do with anything? All your pictures were just dead people and casualties in the war. Propoganda like that doesn't help you win any kind of argument. Those aren't "facts". Those are people who died in a war.

 

Maybe you're talking about the picture of a child in a hospital? Or the picture of the dead infant? Ok... what does that prove!? I'm really not thinking that US Soldiers shot an infant.

 

And the article you posted... that doesn't help "justify" the terrorist killing in any way, shape, or form. It's just an alternative to the war on terrorism. Which, by the way, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will never be resolved.

Wow!! this debate has gone off while I've been away!!

 

There are two sides to every story. From our position in the west, with the media, politicians etc that we see, we're given one set of ideas. If we were in the East, we would be given another set of opinions. How you see the world all comes down to how you were raised and your moral, social and ethical values, ie culture.

 

I'm going to paste an opinion piece from the Palestinian Times. I've got another piece which goes in a different direction which I'll post later.

 

While Israel commemorated the “holocaust” on 25 April, the Israeli State, through its army, paramilitary police forces and armed settlers, was carrying out a silent genocide against the helpless Palestinian people, aimed primarily at killing, maiming and tormenting as many Palestinians as the “current international atmosphere” would allow.

 

This genocidal onslaught, while slow in motion and lacking the melodrama of a news-breaking huge slaughter, is nonetheless pushing millions of innocent men, women and children to the brink of disaster.

 

Indeed, the Israeli occupation army, a Jewish Wehrmacht by every conceivable standard, continues to kill and maim an average of ten Palestinians per day. Thus, since the beginning of April, the Judeo-Nazi army murdered as many as 35 Palestinians and badly wounded over 60 others.

 

In addition to the dead, there are numerous other Palestinians who lose their eyes or vital organs of their bodies and have become physically disabled for the rest of their lives, thanks to Israel’s random and indifferent bullets.

 

In fact, the all-out Israeli onslaught against the Palestinian society endangers the personal safety of every Palestinian from the nursery children to college students to teachers and hospital workers and the ordinary people in the streets. It is an open asymmetrical war on a civilian population for no reason other than the fact that they are non-Jews.

 

In other words, the Palestinians are being targeted and killed and savaged and brutalized not for what they do, but for who they are.

The killing and maiming, nontheless, are but a small part of what Israel is doing to the Palestinians amid a deafening silence by Western countries, including Europe and the U.S., and nearly total impotence from Arab countries.

 

Some people, especially in the West, might instinctively dismiss the Nazi epithets describing Israel’s criminal practices against the Palestinians.

However, an honest appreciation of what is happening in the West Bank and Gaza Strip these days leaves no doubt as to the genocidal nature of Israel’s systematic reign of terror against the Palestinians.

To begin with, the Israeli army is besieging nearly all Palestinian population centres, including villages and refugee camps, preventing Palestinians from accessing work and food, not only in Israel proper, but also in neighbouring Palestinian areas.

 

For example, Palestinians living in the northern West Bank, like Jenin, are barred from travelling southward to Ramallah.

This means that Palestinian farmers in the northern region of the West Bank can’t market their agricultural produce in the rest of the West Bank. In other words, these poor farmers will lose the source of their livelihood and ultimately join the swelling ranks of the poor.

 

Similarly, Palestinians living in the northern Jordan Valley are not allowed to travel outside their immediate places of residence and those succeeding in leaving won’t be allowed to return their homes.

This dire situation prompted one Palestinian health official to warn of an imminent health disaster in the area because Israel bars Palestinian health agencies and personnel from accessing the region.

 

Last month, the Israeli occupation army turned the so-called Qalandia Checkpoint into an “international border-crossing.” The same has been done with the Z’atra checkpoint outside Nablus, and more of the same is in the offing.

These are not security measures as Israel would want us to believe. This is a well-thought-out plan intended to turn Palestinian population centres into miserable and hapless detention camps that bear a striking similarity to Nazi detention camps with the only difference being the absence of ovens and gas chambers.

 

However, people are made to suffer and are killed without ovens and gas chambers.

Palestinian homes and neighbourhoods are raided in the quiet hours before dawn on a daily basis by Gestapo-like Israeli soldiers, many of whom come from Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

And during a given raid, the Jewish savages terrorize children, beat husbands in front of their wives and children and deliberately vandalize property, including TVs and appliances, and provocatively mix foodstuffs, like sugar and salt, in order to make it unusable.

 

Moreover, the mass arrest of Palestinian youths is no longer security-related as Israel was claiming until recently. Now, young men between the ages of 15 and 45 are detained for many months and even years for the sole purpose of impoverishing their families and weakening societal productivity and economic viability.

Needless to say, the arrest and indefinite incarceration of Palestinian breadwinners, without charge or trial, will have harsh consequences on their families who would be forced to seek food from the already bankrupt charities, exhausted by sweeping American and European sanctions.

 

This sinister coercion and savaging of an entire society can only push people to the edge and convince them that the way of suicide bombing is the right path. How else would people facing such circumstances think?

 

This is not all. The Israeli State has decided of late to withhold all Palestinian tax money (I am talking about hundreds of millions of dollars), which makes it impossible for the Palestinian government to pay salaries for over 140,000 Palestinian public employees and civil servants. Needless to say, up to one third of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza depend on these meagre salaries for their income and livelihood which average no more than $500 per month.

 

This sweeping, collective punishment of the Palestinian people for exercising their democratic right and electing the Hamas movement should be viewed as no less than a crime against humanity.

This is exactly what Third Reich and Nazism did to their victims—they starved them to death. And Israel is doing the same thing, although not as brazenly.

 

Europeans and Americans! Don’t raise your eyebrows too much! Israel is behaving like the Nazis. Israel is closing our towns, preventing us from travelling within our own country and moving from one city to the other, preventing us from accessing work, preventing us from importing and exporting vital commodities, and hunting us down with helicopter gun-ships and Abram tanks as is the case in northern Gaza. Don’t your envoys and ambassadors and other observers communicate to you what is happening here?

Well, if they don’t, it is a calamity, and if they do and you ignore their reports, it is even a greater calamity.

 

Or should the Arabs and Muslims in our part of the world put their trust only in Osama Ben Laden and Abu Mus’ab Zarqawi?

We are blaming you because it was you who created Israel in the first place, by superimposing it upon us, as if we were children of a lesser God.

It is therefore your responsibility to see to it that your child doesn’t metamorphose into a Nazi monster.

http://www.ptimes.org

You've then got the article about Iranians & Israelis learning to get along:

 

Hossein Derakhshan is a 31-year-old Iranian internet activist, based in Canada, who writes the bilingual weblog Editor: Myself. Here he writes about his first visit to Israel, which he undertook to challenge the stereotypes of both Iran and Israel.

 

For me, an Iranian raised in post-revolutionary Iran, Israel has always had three great qualities: unknown, forbidden and therefore extremely intriguing. That's why I finally decided to visit Israel.

 

But unlike all Iranians who have visited Israel, I decided to publicise my visit to the 20,000 daily readers of my blog - even though I knew I would not be able to go back to Iran again.

 

I had a mission, though, which would make the risk worthwhile. I wanted to break the stereotypical images both governments use to advance their radical policies.

 

Rest of the article here

Or how about this one?

 

Egypt and Jordan Against Unilateral Israeli Withdrawal

15:36 May 01, '06 / 3 Iyar 5766

by Hillel Fendel

 

 

Egypt's President Mubarak and Jordan's King Abdullah, who met this week, issued a joint call against Ehud Olmert's planned transfer of vast areas of Judea and Samaria to the control of Hamas.

 

The two leaders met in Aqaba, the Jordanian port city adjacent to Eilat, and warned that one-sided solutions will not help in promoting the peace process or regional stability. They said that Israel must negotiate not with Hamas, but with Abu Mazen, the leader of the Fatah organization.

 

Middle Eastern affairs expert Dr. David Bukai of Haifa University notes the irony, explaining that Egypt and Jordan are more aware of and concerned about the Hamas terror threat than Israel, whose leaders are "criminally" busy with their own problems.

 

Speaking with Arutz-7's Hebrew newsmagazine on Sunday, Bukai said that Egypt and Jordan feel that the rise of Hamas was enabled because of Israel's retreat from Gaza. "They fear that if Israel continues to withdraw, Hamas will get even stronger, and will become an even greater threat to Egypt and Jordan," he said.

 

"Jordan and Egypt are threatened by World Jihad terrorism no less than Israel," Bukai explained. "Bin Laden has appointed Musa Abu Zarkawi as the Amir [commander] not only of Iraq, but of the entire Middle East. Egypt is thus threatened by the Al-Qaeda terrorism emanating from Sinai - and this terror can easily reach Israel and Saudi Arabia as well. Jordan, too, knows that Abu Zarkawi - his name indicates that he is of Zarka in Jordan - is interested in taking over Jordan perhaps even more than he wants Iraq. That's why Egypt and Jordan feel threatened. The ties between World Jihad and Hamas are strong, and will become stronger; Hamas is the spearhead of Jihad in the region."

 

U.S. intelligence sources report that Zarkawi is engaged in establishing a small independent army in Iraq, with the help of Al-Qaeda and Iran.

 

Bukai said that the Israeli government is not following Egypt and Jordan in this regard, and "is not even following logic or what its citizens' welfare would dictate. The Israeli government is busy with its own issues, totally and completely detached from the existing strategic and political reality. They will only act out of their own understanding, and this understanding is totally mistaken and even, to a large extent, criminal vis-a-vis Israel's citizens' welfare and security. They will of course say that they are watching out only for Israel's interests, but unfortunately, this is far from the truth."

 

Abu Marzuk, the head of the political desk of Hamas, said today that representatives of European and Scandinavian countries have been in contact with Hamas leaders in Damascus. The Europeans are trying to convince Hamas to recognize Israel, Abu Marzuk said, adding that Hamas is willing only to consider maintaining quiet and stability.

 

Mubarak and Abdullah said they wish to meet separately with Prime Minister-designate Ehud Olmert with the goal of encouraging the resumption of negotiations between Israel and Abu Mazen.

 

Bukai said that Egypt and Jordan did nothing to stop the ascent of Hamas, and only now, when the threat is becoming stronger, are they showing concern. "The reason why Hamas is in power is because of the free elections in the Palestinian Authority," he said. "Any Arab or Islamic country that would hold free elections would show the same result, because if given a choice, the simple man in the street - I don't call him a citizen, because there's no civics in these places - will choose what he knows, namely, the Islamic Movement... Actually, Egypt and Jordan would like it if Israel would do their work for them and deal with the Hamas threat."

I forgot to write the source down when i was reading through the newspapers on Mon. It would be one of these: Iran Daily, Tehran Globe, Jerusalem Post, Israeli Insider, Israel National News, Palestine TImes

Or this one:

 

Professors bridge Mid-East divide

By Martin Patience

 

The year 1948 resonates with Israelis as the year their nation was born in blood during a war for independence against all odds.

 

For Palestinians, 1948 means something very different - the defeat of the Arab armies, the failure of Palestinians to establish their own state and the beginning of exile, when 750,000 Palestinians became refugees in neighbouring Arab countries.

 

The battle lines of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict extend to the classroom, where the two sides' versions of their shared history diverge sharply.

 

Now, two university professors aim to change the way the conflict is taught, by exposing Palestinian students to Israeli history lessons and Israeli students to the Palestinian version of history.

 

The project is the work of Dan Bar-On, a social psychology professor at Ben Gurion University in Beersheba, a city in southern Israel, and Sami Adwan, an education professor at Bethlehem University in the West Bank.

 

Together with teams of Israeli and Palestinian historians, they have devised a series of booklets that set the competing versions of history side-by-side on the same pages for students.

 

The professors say the project is an effort to bridge the chasm between the two peoples. "The way a conflict or history is taught in the classroom can either support that conflict or (support) co-existence," says Prof Adwan.

 

"The project aims to break down the stereotypes and build nuanced understandings."

 

His colleague Prof Bar-On says: "What we're talking about is the disarming of history, where the teaching of history no longer feeds the conflict."

 

Differences on display

 

Aimed at 15-and-16-year-olds, the five-year project produced three booklets, distributed in seven Israeli schools and seven Palestinian schools.

 

The first booklet, published in 2002, covers events in 1948 as well as the Balfour Declaration in 1917, when Britain, which administered the League of Nations Mandate over the area, declared its support for a "Jewish homeland" in what was then known as Palestine.

 

The Israeli version holds that the declaration was the "first time any country expressed support for Zionism" - the movement to create a Jewish state in modern-day Israel.

 

In the Palestinian version, the idea of a Jewish state in their midst was one concocted by foreign powers and first expressed by Napoleon in 1799.

 

The professors' booklet also shows differences over the first Palestinian uprising, which lasted from 1987 to 1993.

 

Palestinian history states that the violence began after an Israeli truck driver "deliberately crashed into an Arab car, killing four Palestinians".

 

Israeli history injects doubt by saying, "the Palestinians claimed".

 

'One man's hero'

 

Shai Meizlemann, 35, a history teacher at an Israeli high school in Kfar Saba, close to Tel Aviv, says the project touches on issues that are contentious.

 

"Teenagers are often highly emotional, particularly when it comes to teaching the conflict," he says. "But teaching history involves being rational and looking at the other side - and the project encourages this."

 

Professors Bar-On and Adwan say writing the booklets was often emotional.

 

"One man's hero was another man's terrorist," says Prof Adwan, recalling the intense debate about treatment of the Oslo peace accords signed by Israel and the Palestinians in 1993.

 

"Palestinians saw it as the starting point of ending the conflict, whereas Israelis saw it as the creation of peace," he says.

 

Recruitment drive

 

The third booklet of the series published this year looks at more recent events, such as the second Palestinian uprising that began in 2000. Israel blames the Palestinians for the start of the violence, attacking Israeli citizens and failing to live up to the Oslo accords.

 

The Palestinians say the uprising grew out of Israel's continued expansion of West Bank settlements, seizure of Palestinians' land and limits on their travel and mobility.

 

Now, the two professors are hoping to recruit more teachers to be involved in the project. They also hope the Israeli and Palestinian education ministries will approve the projects' booklets and their booklets will be widely available in classrooms.

 

Professors Bar-On and Adwan say they've become close friends through their collaboration. The events covered in the booklets are deeply personal for both, they say.

 

For Prof Bar-On, losing a friend in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war made him think about the plight of the Palestinians.

 

For Prof Adwan, once jailed for being a member of a political group declared illegal by Israel, an encounter with a respectful Israeli prison guard made him realise that "they weren't all the same".

Okay. I looked at every picture and read that article on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

 

What does any of that have to do with anything? All your pictures were just dead people and casualties in the war. Propoganda like that doesn't help you win any kind of argument. Those aren't "facts". Those are people who died in a war.

 

Maybe you're talking about the picture of a child in a hospital? Or the picture of the dead infant? Ok... what does that prove!? I'm really not thinking that US Soldiers shot an infant.

 

And the article you posted... that doesn't help "justify" the terrorist killing in any way, shape, or form. It's just an alternative to the war on terrorism. Which, by the way, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will never be resolved.

 

 

Haha,you named that just dead pople and casualties in the WAR.Which war

 

Except if you consider a child with a stone aganist a big tank called WAR and a soldier have a gun aganist a child as a war OR maybe when Israel invasion Jenin and killed thousands [ even Israel soldier didn't bear the smile of bodies''

 

is that what you called it war,it's shame

 

I will ask you a qusetion.If this your mother or your little brother in his blood and if a soldier carry a gun aganist your sister what would you do

 

I will ask you a qusetion.If this your mother or your little brother in his blood and if a soldier carry a gun aganist your sister what would you do

 

Thats a good question...but how is that in any way relevant?

Haha,you named that just dead pople and casualties in the WAR.Which war

 

Except if you consider a child with a stone aganist a big tank called WAR and a soldier have a gun aganist a child as a war OR maybe when Israel invasion Jenin and killed thousands [ even Israel soldier didn't bear the smile of bodies''

 

is that what you called it war,it's shame

 

I will ask you a qusetion.If this your mother or your little brother in his blood and if a soldier carry a gun aganist your sister what would you do

 

There were soldiers in those pictures... that are fighting an oppressive terrorist force. How is that not war? Am I missing something? Have we not yet declared war?

 

And if your trying to prove something about Americans killing innocent people in Iraq...I'm sure that little kid throwing a rock at that tank would be just a stain on the road.

PIC 1: A bloody guy being carried by three Iraqis. And? What does that show!?

 

PIC 2: A bloody man and a bloody infant in a hospital. Ok... and... it's sad, sure...

 

PIC 3: The one with the solider and the gun pointed at the little kid... the gun isn't pointed at the kid. It's pointed at the bag being held by the woman in the shaw. With all the insurgent (sp?) attacks, the soldiers have to be skeptical. Plus, you can't just judge an entire situation from a picture. You have no clue what the story behind it is.

 

PIC 4: A child in the hospital, while sad, is still irrelevant. You think because children are in hospitals in America, we have the right to kill innocent civilians and justify it?

 

PIC 5: That doesn't even look like a child in front of the tank. And furthermore... I'm sorry... but if there's a military vehicle and you stand in front of it with a rock...

 

PIC 6: ...then what do you think is going to happen? If this is, in fact, the same guy... then he wasn't considered "innocent". He threw himself in front of a moving tank.

 

 

And to answer your question... human emotion does not justify anything. I would be angry - but that does not mean "Oh, a soldier is pointing a gun at my sister... I should go blow up innocent civilians."

 

And by "war", I mean the war that is going on in Iraq. You know, the one that your propogandish pictures were taken from?

PIC 1: A bloody guy being carried by three Iraqis. And? What does that show!?

 

PIC 2: A bloody man and a bloody infant in a hospital. Ok... and... it's sad, sure...

 

PIC 3: The one with the solider and the gun pointed at the little kid... the gun isn't pointed at the kid. It's pointed at the bag being held by the woman in the shaw. With all the insurgent (sp?) attacks, the soldiers have to be skeptical. Plus, you can't just judge an entire situation from a picture. You have no clue what the story behind it is.

 

PIC 4: A child in the hospital, while sad, is still irrelevant. You think because children are in hospitals in America, we have the right to kill innocent civilians and justify it?

 

PIC 5: That doesn't even look like a child in front of the tank. And furthermore... I'm sorry... but if there's a military vehicle and you stand in front of it with a rock...

 

PIC 6: ...then what do you think is going to happen? If this is, in fact, the same guy... then he wasn't considered "innocent". He threw himself in front of a moving tank.

 

 

And to answer your question... human emotion does not justify anything. I would be angry - but that does not mean "Oh, a soldier is pointing a gun at my sister... I should go blow up innocent civilians."

 

And by "war", I mean the war that is going on in Iraq. You know, the one that your propogandish pictures were taken from?

 

Very well put my friend.

There is no facts,really

 

Ok,but first.Please,please,please read all what I will give you

 

I will show everyone the facts

 

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676566/02_04_1.jpg.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676610/palestine2.jpg.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676644/palestine.jpg.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676707/24n_Palestinian20Child0.jpg.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676738/untitled.bmp.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/19676816/palestine_dead_1.jpg.html

 

I'm sorry but I don't know how to insert an image.But it will take few seconds to see

 

See also this sitehttp://www.jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/106552_comment.php

 

By the way till now you ignore my question

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nope, doesnt change my mind.

Haha,you named that just dead pople and casualties in the WAR.Which war

 

Except if you consider a child with a stone aganist a big tank called WAR and a soldier have a gun aganist a child as a war OR maybe when Israel invasion Jenin and killed thousands [ even Israel soldier didn't bear the smile of bodies''

 

is that what you called it war,it's shame

 

I will ask you a qusetion.If this your mother or your little brother in his blood and if a soldier carry a gun aganist your sister what would you do

 

What i call a shame is evil people training kids to be terrorist, sending and or letting their kids go out to fight armed israeli military with rocks. it depends if my little brother tried to take on a tank with a fucking rock i'd be very sad he died but i wouldnt hold the shooter accountable.

A suicide bomber is not a patriot. Perhaps a martyr for dying for what they believe in... and even that's a stretch... but most certainly not a patriot.

 

 

We don't know in what kind of situation these suicide bombers lived in. You don't see any of your friends do it cause they have a good life, they don't have to be scared of their enemies 24/7. These young men or women don't see another way out ... they want to hit the enemy where it hurts the most ... this means the innocent ppl. The suicide bombers once were just as innocent as their victims. Its the situation that made them 'terrorists'.

We don't know in what kind of situation these suicide bombers lived in. You don't see any of your friends do it cause they have a good life' date=' they don't have to be scared of their enemies 24/7. These young men or women don't see another way out ... they want to hit the enemy where it hurts the most ... this means the innocent ppl. The suicide bombers once were just as innocent as their victims. Its the situation that made them 'terrorists'.[/quote']

 

They have ways out, its not about a way out in most cases. its about killing a jew and going the heaven...why dont they suicide bomb against arab nations? arab nations treat the palestinians just as badly as israel does. yet you dont see any of them complaining or taking up arms against other arab nations....wonder why? maybe because they arent jewish....its not the situation that made them the terrorist ist brainwashing and racism and pure hatred of other races....because if that was NOT the case they would be attacking everyone that treated them that badly, but they are not....

 

Even before israel, palestinians under other arab nations control were treated like crap, 2nd citizens living in refugee camps, yet they did not take up arms against the arab goverments.

They have ways out, its not about a way out in most cases. its about killing a jew and going the heaven...why dont they suicide bomb against arab nations? arab nations treat the palestinians just as badly as israel does. yet you dont see any of them complaining or taking up arms against other arab nations....wonder why? maybe because they arent jewish....its not the situation that made them the terrorist ist brainwashing and racism and pure hatred of other races....because if that was NOT the case they would be attacking everyone that treated them that badly, but they are not....

 

Even before israel, palestinians under other arab nations control were treated like crap, 2nd citizens living in refugee camps, yet they did not take up arms against the arab goverments.

 

 

i don't think they have many ways out. When they're in a refugee camp they can't go anywhere, they lost everything. All they can do there is wait till they die ... the 15 and 16 year old boys see their friends and family get killed ... these kids are very impressionable on that age.

All they need is a father or imam to tell them what they'll get when they blow themselves up. Then once they blew themselves up the israelis will take revenge and new young men will be convinced to blow them up. I don't think the Israelis will have peace till every palestine is dead or till they left. Neither will the palestines have peace till they're all dead. This problem won't be solved just by talking.

i don't think they have many ways out. When they're in a refugee camp they can't go anywhere, they lost everything. All they can do there is wait till they die ... the 15 and 16 year old boys see their friends and family get killed ... these kids are very impressionable on that age.

All they need is a father or imam to tell them what they'll get when they blow themselves up. Then once they blew themselves up the israelis will take revenge and new young men will be convinced to blow them up. I don't think the Israelis will have peace till every palestine is dead or till they left. Neither will the palestines have peace till they're all dead. This problem won't be solved just by talking.

 

yeah but like i said the same thing was happening before israel when they were under arab control and there was no massive uprising or terrorist to attack the arab countries, and hardly no push for a palestinian state.

 

I agree with you though, there wont be peace in that region.

There were soldiers in those pictures... that are fighting an oppressive terrorist force. How is that not war? Am I missing something? Have we not yet declared war?

 

And if your trying to prove something about Americans killing innocent people in Iraq...I'm sure that little kid throwing a rock at that tank would be just a stain on the road.

 

 

Hey,I didn't talk about USA here.All this pictures about Arab - Israel conflict

 

It's not Iraq

PIC 1: A bloody guy being carried by three Iraqis. And? What does that show!?

 

PIC 2: A bloody man and a bloody infant in a hospital. Ok... and... it's sad, sure...

 

PIC 3: The one with the solider and the gun pointed at the little kid... the gun isn't pointed at the kid. It's pointed at the bag being held by the woman in the shaw. With all the insurgent (sp?) attacks, the soldiers have to be skeptical. Plus, you can't just judge an entire situation from a picture. You have no clue what the story behind it is.

 

PIC 4: A child in the hospital, while sad, is still irrelevant. You think because children are in hospitals in America, we have the right to kill innocent civilians and justify it?

 

PIC 5: That doesn't even look like a child in front of the tank. And furthermore... I'm sorry... but if there's a military vehicle and you stand in front of it with a rock...

 

PIC 6: ...then what do you think is going to happen? If this is, in fact, the same guy... then he wasn't considered "innocent". He threw himself in front of a moving tank.

 

 

And to answer your question... human emotion does not justify anything. I would be angry - but that does not mean "Oh, a soldier is pointing a gun at my sister... I should go blow up innocent civilians."

 

And by "war", I mean the war that is going on in Iraq. You know, the one that your propogandish pictures were taken from?

 

 

 

Hey come on,it's not Iraq war.Please don't make me cry:sick:

 

They not USA soldier and Iraqi people

 

I know what happened in Iraq.I will till you something

 

Don't compare who explode himself in Iraq with who explode himself in Palestine.Who explode himself in Iraq is just Terrorist.

Hey come on,it's not Iraq war.Please don't make me cry:sick:

 

They not USA soldier and Iraqi people

 

I know what happened in Iraq.I will till you something

 

Don't compare who explode himself in Iraq with who explode himself in Palestine.Who explode himself in Iraq is just Terrorist.

 

And people who suicide bomb in Israel are terrorist too, just like the ones in iraq.

And people who suicide bomb in Israel are terrorist too' date=' just like the ones in iraq.[/quote']

 

In spite of all what you see:\

nope' date=' doesnt change my mind.[/quote']

 

Really:shocked2:

They have ways out, its not about a way out in most cases. its about killing a jew and going the heaven...why dont they suicide bomb against arab nations? arab nations treat the palestinians just as badly as israel does. yet you dont see any of them complaining or taking up arms against other arab nations....wonder why? maybe because they arent jewish....its not the situation that made them the terrorist ist brainwashing and racism and pure hatred of other races....because if that was NOT the case they would be attacking everyone that treated them that badly, but they are not....

 

Even before israel, palestinians under other arab nations control were treated like crap, 2nd citizens living in refugee camps, yet they did not take up arms against the arab goverments.

 

Wow,I didn't know from where you get this information.But I challenge you if you can tell where,when and why Arab Nations treat palestinians people badly

 

If we hate the jews as you say,why we only attack them just in Israel

I mean we can attack them in USA or any place there are everywhere and there are jews in many arab countries,did we attack them?

I can't read my books fast enought to keep up with you two!!! What I've read so far is absolutely fascinating but I need at least another week to finish them!!!!