I mean' date='where the Jews want to establish their state?[/quote']

 

 

Hey Marcool011,you didn't answer my question!

The fact its a nation that supports terrorist' date=' and is controlled by a crazed leader. its not about the location of the country its about the leadership and what they do and have done and what they would be willing to do. an extremist terrorist goverment with nukes is bad for everyone in the world. kinda like North korea with nukes, or alqueada with nukes.[/quote']

 

 

Again you say somethings without a proof.I proved before that USA support terrorist.You always ignore my words and turn the discussion into something else,I don't know why?.I always disprove your facts and you didn't disprove mine!

 

See my all posts in this discussion and if there something wrong tell me.

I got your back brotha,

 

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1510

 

Or maybe...

 

http://www.meforum.org/article/619

 

Or possibly...

 

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=14

 

Or even...

 

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-castro-rejects-us-terrorism-report-demands-answers-posada-/2006/04/30/1625715.htm

 

Even CASTRO agrees with us. And he hates us.

I'm sorry, I haven't been following this debate very closely, so I may be repeating some of you here. But what Maldini said caught my eye.

 

 

The USA has supported terrorism. Israel uses terrorism. That's obvious enough, and we suck Israel's figurative cock, for christ's sake.

 

The IRA is/was a terrorist organization. It is PROVEN that the IRA could not have sponsored it's bombing campaign without support from the United States. Whatever your view on the Troubles may be, I think it's painfully obvious that the IRA was an extreme political terrorist organization which our government and people have supported out of sympathy and god know's what else. (I just wrote a paper on this crap, so don't go telling me that it's not a terrorist organization or that the US doesn't have/had sympathy for it, because I just am going to go "LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU")

 

And then there's Saudi Arabia. Mmmm, lovely old Saudi Arabia. Tastes like hypocracy to me.

 

 

 

Soooo... If the US supports terrorism, what ARE we? And what DO we stand for? It's all very double sided to me.

Of course it's double-sided. It's American government.

 

I hope to God that the world isn't headed towards another Arms Race. *flashes back to Kennedy*

Again you say somethings without a proof.I proved before that USA support terrorist.You always ignore my words and turn the discussion into something else,I don't know why?.I always disprove your facts and you didn't disprove mine!

 

See my all posts in this discussion and if there something wrong tell me.

ive already shown iran supports terrorism a long time ago after you asked the first time.

Nobody read my articles...wahh

I'm sorry, I haven't been following this debate very closely, so I may be repeating some of you here. But what Maldini said caught my eye.

 

 

The USA has supported terrorism. Israel uses terrorism. That's obvious enough, and we suck Israel's figurative cock, for christ's sake.

 

The IRA is/was a terrorist organization. It is PROVEN that the IRA could not have sponsored it's bombing campaign without support from the United States. Whatever your view on the Troubles may be, I think it's painfully obvious that the IRA was an extreme political terrorist organization which our government and people have supported out of sympathy and god know's what else. (I just wrote a paper on this crap, so don't go telling me that it's not a terrorist organization or that the US doesn't have/had sympathy for it, because I just am going to go "LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU")

 

And then there's Saudi Arabia. Mmmm, lovely old Saudi Arabia. Tastes like hypocracy to me.

 

 

 

Soooo... If the US supports terrorism, what ARE we? And what DO we stand for? It's all very double sided to me.

 

 

Israel's goverment does not support or use terrorism.

 

please show some evidence america supported the IRA, i VERY much doubt that. Im not saying the IRA isnt a terrorist group, because it is, but i'd like to see evidence they were supported by america.

 

Saudi Arabia? They aer not terrorist, what is wrong with supporting them?

so Korea helps terrorists now??

 

 

not that i know of. but i have never said they do....

ive already shown iran supports terrorism a long time ago after you asked the first time.

 

 

You said Iran support Hazebollah and Hamas.This two group aren't terrorist groups

Anytime :wink:

 

 

And while we're off on a tangent, the idea that Pakistan and India have nukes is a bit unsettling. The two haven't exactly been the best neighbours (what with the wars in 1947 and 1965), and the fact that Pakistan has proliferated nuclear technology to Libya, Iran and North Korea. But they're currently chummy chummy with the states, so they're allowed to keep their nukes :nice:

 

Then there's also the rumours that Israel has nukes (supposedly up to several hundred warheads).

 

Yeah because we could take them away from.....us speaking out agaisnt or going after pakistan for nukes wouldnt solve any problems but create more. they have them and wont give them up and it would only strain our ties with them. it would fruitless to make a big fuss about it. its truly sad you worry more about pakistan and india having nukes then Iran. not to mention pakistan wouldnt use nukes against america or europe or israel unlike Iran. see iran is a major threat ot america AND Europe. like pre ww1-2 most europeans and americans seem to want to put their heads in the sand and pretend like nothing is wrong and there isnt trouble ahead....sadly that is not the case, we simply cannot ignore threats of this magnitude in the modern world. Kinda like we did with Germany before ww1 and 2...and the soviet union, and alqaueda.....sadly europe and half of america will never learn from lessons taught to us by history.

You said Iran support Hazebollah and Hamas.This two group aren't terrorist groups

 

they are the definition of a terrorist group....

Israel's goverment does not support or use terrorism.

 

 

Really,so answer my question!

Of course it's double-sided. It's American government.

 

I hope to God that the world isn't headed towards another Arms Race. *flashes back to Kennedy*

 

First of all know that EVERY goverment is double sided. yet people seem to think its only america.

Israel's goverment does not support or use terrorism.

 

 

Really,so answer my question!

 

what question?

they are the definition of a terrorist group....

 

 

How,show me the reason and facts

I mean' date='where the Jews want to establish their state?[/quote']

 

 

This one.

This one.

 

 

sorry in a little confused on this one still. please explain more.

http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/sib/9_04/hamas.htm

 

 

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=14

 

http://www.slate.com/id/1006301/

You said Arab hate Jews when they founded their state, and I ask you. Where Jews want to establish their state?

International Relations

 

It is known one of IRA’s important financial resources is “Irish Northern Aid Committee” in USA. United Kingdom tries to eliminate this support by effecting on powerful Irish Lobby in USA. Libya is another supporter of IRA. UK by pressuring on Libya and by abstracting it from international platforms tries to cease its military support to IRA.

 

Source: http://www.teror.gen.tr/english/organisations/ira.html

 

A secondary, but most important, point, which underlines the fallacy of the decommissioning argument completely, is the very obvious one that if the IRA wished it could give up every piece of equipment it has and, given the availability of the armaments in teh world, replace them all almost immediately. I have seen several references, in various commentators' writings for TV programmes, to the IRA's stockpile largely consisting of weapons imported from Libya. But from my own knowledge I know of shipments that never surfaced in the media, which came from the ever-fertile procurement ground of America. One huge shipment, possibly the largest ever, may have contained a plastic explosive which was used in the attack on the Brighton hotel that nearly claimed Margaret Thatcher's life.

Source: The IRA by Tim Pat Coogan

(EDIT: I apologize for any spelling errors, I typed this by hand ;))

 

 

 

Richard Hass, the president's key advisor on Northern Ireland, has demanded a full explanation from Gerry Adams. Sinn Fein is hugely dependent on both political and financial support from the USA.

 

Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_mi5terror_4.html

 

 

And read this:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/48407.stm

 

 

 

Not to mention the support I hear people spew out without knowing a damned thing about the IRA nor it's history around me. They consider themselves full bred Irish, but they've never been back to their homeland. Yet they support their "united Ireland" and think that the fight is necessary. I'm Irish-American, and I don't EVER think that violence and terrorism is a valid way to win your freedom. I've been studying the IRA for the past 3 months (on my own, sadly my school doesn't offer classes in Irish history :() and it only confirmed my belief that the IRA is a widely misunderstood (by Americans) organization.

http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/sib/9_04/hamas.htm

 

 

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=14

 

http://www.slate.com/id/1006301/

 

 

Ok,I saw those 3 sites quickly.But from your point of view you see who bomb himself consider a suicide but I see he is a patriot. Of curse I reject to kill civilians people but they helpless. When you looking for case, look for it from the two sides no one side

 

Here is the other sidehttp://www.aad-online.org.See this and make your mind

Hazebollah called a terrorist group because they dismissed Israel from occupied land in Lebanon.

 

Hamas called a terrorist group because they struggle against the occupation

 

Did you know something,the Egyption president Gamal Abdel Nasser they called him ''' Hitler Of The Nile''' because he nationalization of the Suez Canal to finance the Dam's construction.What a shame!

Ok,I saw those 3 sites quickly.But from your point of view you see who bomb himself consider a suicide but I see he is a patriot. Of curse I reject to kill civilians people but they helpless. When you looking for case, look for it from the two sides no one side

 

Here is the other sidehttp://www.aad-online.org.See this and make your mind

 

 

Ive already seen both sides and have made my mind up.

Hazebollah called a terrorist group because they dismissed Israel from occupied land in Lebanon.

 

Hamas called a terrorist group because they struggle against the occupation

 

Did you know something,the Egyption president Gamal Abdel Nasser they called him ''' Hitler Of The Nile''' because he nationalization of the Suez Canal to finance the Dam's construction.What a shame!

 

they are aterrorist group because they are.