Yeap.

you worse off than I had originally imagined.

Touche. theres plenty of evidence behind it. the idea of hating the jews and nazism was widely spread and accepted in teh Middle east.

 

You can chose to ignore history, its what you do, you dont seem to care of want to learn history. The nazi goverment spent ALOT of time and money spreadign their views about jews in the middle east, we have them to thank for the hatred of jews.

you make me tired, dude... lol

You ignore history....this isnt just a theory or hearsay, this is fact. nazi's spread hatred of the jews all over teh middle east and judging from world leaders in teh arab world now and then its easy to tell they bought it.....its called common sense. i thought you had a opened mind?

your mind boggle me..

 

I never claimed to ignore history.. but again its all about interpetation...

Well lets see....

 

Hitlers goverment spend mass amount of time and money on propaganda in the middle east to get them to hate the jews, until then the jews werent widely hated or killed....after a few years most of the arab world and its leaders all of a sudden turn anti-jew....hmmmm nazism and their propaganda had nothing to do with this...you are so right. it must be a Coincidence...yeah.....

 

The fact that this doesnt even seem possible to you scares me.

Well lets see....

 

Hitlers goverment spend mass amount of time and money on propaganda in the middle east to get them to hate the jews, until then the jews werent widely hated or killed....after a few years most of the arab world and its leaders all of a sudden turn anti-jew....hmmmm nazism and their propaganda had nothing to do with this...you are so right. it must be a Coincidence...yeah.....

 

The fact that this doesnt even seem possible to you scares me.

 

Maybe dividing Palestine into 2 territories and forming the state of Israel? Some people didn't take too kindly to that...

Maybe dividing Palestine into 2 territories and forming the state of Israel? Some people didn't take too kindly to that...

 

 

Yeah maybe palestinians but the rest of the arab world does not and would not give a damn. i can see why palestinians would be pissed and turn to hatred, but there is no reason for the rest of the arab world. thats where it shows how nazism influenced that region. If not for the spread of nazism the arab would besides paletstine wouldnt give a damn about one small jewish nation in the middle east.

Yeah maybe palestinians but the rest of the arab world does not and would not give a damn. i can see why palestinians would be pissed and turn to hatred' date=' but there is no reason for the rest of the arab world. thats where it shows how nazism influenced that region. If not for the spread of nazism the arab would besides paletstine wouldnt give a damn about one small jewish nation in the middle east.[/quote']

 

 

how do you know how the rest of the Arab world feels???

how do you know how the rest of the Arab world feels???

 

judging from the wars, the way the leaders talk and most arabs ive heard, its kinda clear.... are you denying that the majority of people in the middle east dislike israel?

 

kinda like most the world dislikes bush? would you agree?

I dont quite understand your question. But Nazism was founded in Germany and spread through the middle east shortly afterwards.

 

I mean,where the Jews want to establish their state?

Iran with nukes is like a terrorist group with nukes or hitler with nukes. very very dangerous and scary.

 

 

well ... why can the UK, the US, France, Pakistan, India, Russia, ... have nukes and Iran can't ? We only need one crazy president in one of those countries and WW III started

btw ... don't think i want iran to have nukes ... i just don't want any country to have them

Maybe dividing Palestine into 2 territories and forming the state of Israel? Some people didn't take too kindly to that...

Plus I belive Jews also didn't like Mohammed, I think they threw rocks at him or something, not an expert in the middle east conflict, but there's more to it than nazi's.Btw according to Nick's logic Germans are ought to hate the Jews the most, because hey, it was after all a nacional socialistic country at that time.

well ... why can the UK' date=' the US, France, Pakistan, India, Russia, ... have nukes and Iran can't ? We only need one crazy president in one of those countries and WW III started[/quote']

 

Because the world is unfair. the fact is these goverments are stable and not terrorist nations. its like giving a criminal a gun. just because some people have guns does not mean everyone has a right to one.

Plus I belive Jews also didn't like Mohammed' date=' I think they threw rocks at him or something, not an expert in the middle east conflict, but there's more to it than nazi's.Btw according to Nick's logic Germans are ought to hate the Jews the most, because hey, it was after all a nacional socialistic country at that time.[/quote']

 

60 years ago. the german public for the most part has turned against nazism and understands it was wrong. just because the german goverment doesnt hate the jews doesnt mean arab ones do

 

I didnt say nazism was the only cause, but it was a big part of it.

 

How would my logic be that germans would hate the jews? because nazism was widely accepted and spread through the middle east does not mean modern day germans would accept it.

Because the world is unfair. the fact is these goverments are stable and not terrorist nations. its like giving a criminal a gun. just because some people have guns does not mean everyone has a right to one.

 

 

what makes any of the nations mentioned different than that of Iran..?? Just curious.... besides the fact that they are in the Middle East and the others are European and Asian countries..

what makes any of the nations mentioned different than that of Iran..?? Just curious.... besides the fact that they are in the Middle East and the others are European and Asian countries..

 

The fact its a nation that supports terrorist, and is controlled by a crazed leader. its not about the location of the country its about the leadership and what they do and have done and what they would be willing to do. an extremist terrorist goverment with nukes is bad for everyone in the world. kinda like North korea with nukes, or alqueada with nukes.

so Korea helps terrorists now??

so Korea helps terrorists now??

 

"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

"Either you are with us' date=' or you are with the terrorists."[/quote']

 

 

 

oOooooOOooOOh thanks for clearing that up for me, Kyle! ;) :kiss: lol

oOooooOOooOOh thanks for clearing that up for me' date=' Kyle! ;) :kiss: lol[/quote']

Anytime :wink:

 

 

And while we're off on a tangent, the idea that Pakistan and India have nukes is a bit unsettling. The two haven't exactly been the best neighbours (what with the wars in 1947 and 1965), and the fact that Pakistan has proliferated nuclear technology to Libya, Iran and North Korea. But they're currently chummy chummy with the states, so they're allowed to keep their nukes :nice:

 

Then there's also the rumours that Israel has nukes (supposedly up to several hundred warheads).

Israel too????? naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh Thats crazy talk...

60 years ago. the german public for the most part has turned against nazism and understands it was wrong. just because the german goverment doesnt hate the jews doesnt mean arab ones do

 

I didnt say nazism was the only cause, but it was a big part of it.

 

How would my logic be that germans would hate the jews? because nazism was widely accepted and spread through the middle east does not mean modern day germans would accept it.

OK, maybe I could try different approach.

1)Nazi propaganda=big influance on perception of Jews.

2)Nazi propaganda in mid east=Arabs hate Jews

3)Nazi propaganda in Germany=very successful, many Jews killed in concetration camps, also Hitler resided in Germany which is a big motivation for the followers of his ideology.

4)Strong propaganda in Germany-many years passed, propaganda influence faded, Jews are now welcomed in Germany.

5)Weaker propaganda in mid east-many years passed, Arabas hate Jews as much as much as they used to.

 

So as you can see above, the nazi propaganda in mid east had very lil' or no effect on relations beetwen Jews and Arabs.