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Israel / Lebanon / Iran / Syria - Middle East conflict!

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that is IMPOSSIBLE without a computer...and computer werent used back then. so it would be impossible. you dont even understand simple common facts such as this.

 

 

I told you before that isn't made up with computer

 

Maybe they make it in the studios

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I told you before that isn't made up with computer

 

Maybe they make it in the studios

 

you need a computer to make it...and they didnt have them, and so it wouldnt be possible without one, thus meaning they couldnt make up photo's back then. a stuido would require a computer to make one...thus making a studio useless in making it.

because anyone vile and dumb enough to believe it didnt happen should be locked up

 

 

So,where is the freedom of speech?

you have severe mental health issues.

 

 

grow up

you need a computer to make it...and they didnt have them' date=' and so it wouldnt be possible without one, thus meaning they couldnt make up photo's back then[/quote']

 

 

The didn't need any computer,maybe they make it in the studios

The didn't need any computer' date='maybe they make it in the studios[/quote']

 

what would they use in a studio?

 

my point is this you can only do it with a computer.....a studio cant make up images.

lets say that the pictures were made up..

 

what about the video? you cant make up video.

 

second how do you explain hundreds of thousands of EYE witnesses?

 

then how do you explain 6 million people being there and then gone?

 

How do you explain the hundreds of thousands who have seen the bodies

 

the hundreds of thousands of nazi's who worked the camps and watched what happened?

no one has complete freedom of speech.....

 

 

I know it

 

You can insult anything,even there wasn't any evidence

 

But the Jewish NO ,even you have the evidence

Ok,Nicko

 

So,if they told the truth.So why they do this http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27749

Maybe in Austria or in Germany nobody can say what he said....it could be a crime punished by their laws, and maybe he has nazi symphatyes!!....i cannot know it!

Anyway......he is the only historical i know who denies the holocaust.....and is an historical event the great number of laws made by Nazis n Germany and Fascists in Italy...

I know it

 

You can insult anything,even there wasn't any evidence

 

But the Jewish NO ,even you have the evidence

 

yeah you can. you can call all jews evil pigs who are dogs if you so please.... and cant get arrested for that...you can say almot anything bad about them and wouldnt get into trouble. the only thing is you cant deny the holocaust, after that you can hate the jews and talk all the trash you want about them.

lets say that the pictures were made up..

 

what about the video? you cant make up video.

 

second how do you explain hundreds of thousands of EYE witnesses?

 

then how do you explain 6 million people being there and then gone?

 

How do you explain the hundreds of thousands who have seen the bodies

 

the hundreds of thousands of nazi's who worked the camps and watched what happened?

 

1- You can make the video too

 

2- Those witnesses,maybe they bought them and they aren't houndreds of thousands as you say

 

3- You can't prove there were 6 million died

 

4- I told you maybe they bought those people to say this and they aren't hounderds of thousands as you say

 

5- The same with who saying they was worked at the camps

yeah you can. you can call all jews evil pigs who are dogs if you so please.... and cant get arrested for that...you can say almot anything bad about them and wouldnt get into trouble. the only thing is you cant deny the holocaust' date=' after that you can hate the jews and talk all the trash you want about them.[/quote']

 

 

Why you can't deny the Holocaust?

1- You can make the video too

 

2- Those witnesses,maybe they bought them and they aren't houndreds of thousands as you say

 

3- You can't prove there were 6 million died

 

4- I told you maybe they bought those people to say this and they aren't hounderds of thousands as you say

 

5- The same with who saying they was worked at the camps

 

 

yes there are. literally hundreds of thousands saw the bodies or what happened. plus tens of thousands the survived the camps that saw what happened

 

you can make up video without a computer. prove to me otherwise if its true! i bet you cant

 

so you're saying a total of almost a million people conspired together to fake the holocaust?

 

i can prove 6 million died, i did.

Maybe in Austria or in Germany nobody can say what he said....it could be a crime punished by their laws, and maybe he has nazi symphatyes!!....i cannot know it!

Anyway......he is the only historical i know who denies the holocaust.....and is an historical event the great number of laws made by Nazis n Germany and Fascists in Italy...

 

 

No, there are many scientists denying the Holocaust and I can bring more to you

Why you can't deny the Holocaust?

 

because its a proven fact and its one of the worst things that has happened in human history, i think it was the biggest genocide to ever occur. thats why

No' date=' there are many scientists denying the Holocaust and I can bring more to you[/quote']

 

 

you can bring a few, but the majority believe it happened.

yes there are. literally hundreds of thousands saw the bodies or what happened. plus tens of thousands the survived the camps that saw what happened

 

you can make up video without a computer. prove to me otherwise if its true! i bet you cant

 

so you're saying a total of almost a million people conspired together to fake the holocaust?

 

i can prove 6 million died, i did.

 

By the Cinema Tactics you can do anything

 

Ok,prove it

By the Cinema Tactics you can do anything

 

Ok,prove it

 

you have to prove it. i know for a fact they didnt have any technology capable of making up photo's and videos.

1- You can make the video too

 

2- Those witnesses,maybe they bought them and they aren't houndreds of thousands as you say

 

3- You can't prove there were 6 million died

 

4- I told you maybe they bought those people to say this and they aren't hounderds of thousands as you say

 

5- The same with who saying they was worked at the camps

 

I don't think it so easy!!!The core of the question as is see is the fact the you cannot approve the World's (or maybe US') support to Israel....

a thing is what Israel means now for US or their allies, and another thing is the holocaust.....

2. The Revisionist claim : There is no proof that the Holocaust, as depicted by the Holocaust Promotion Lobby and the highly politicized Hollywood industry, actually occurred.

 

 

Revisionists don't claim that Jews didn't suffer. They don't argue the fact that Jews were, in fact, unwanted in Germany, and that there was a state policy to remove them as a "parasitic people" harmful to the country.

 

It is absolutely true that Jews were incarcerated and often treated cruelly. They were seen as the enemy, just as in our times the "Nazis" are seen as the enemy of entrenched oligarchies.

 

Revisionists do claim and argue that there was no state policy that called for the "mass extermination of the Jews" or any other unwanted minorities. The Allies, independently and singly, interrogated 26,000 functionaries of the National Socialist regime immediately after Germany's defeat, all based on the same set of questions. Some people might have thought of lying for their own benefit by implicating others.

 

Not one German official reported knowing of such a program. They all said that the first time they heard about it was from the Allies after the war.

 

This really gets down to the nitty-gritty of where the story of the mass extermination came from - which is the Rudolf Hoess "confession."

 

The Rudolf Hoess Confession is an incredibly "incriminating" document. All evil stems from it. Here is the background story.

 

Rudolf Hoess, the former wartime commandant of Auschwitz "confessed" to the most incredible things during the Nuremberg Trials in this widely used and much-quoted "document." A good overview from a human interest story point of view of how that was accomplished is given in the Zundelsite Internet editorial: "Nuremberg: The Crime that Will Not Die" It is a summary worth reading.

 

Many Germans, at Nuremberg and elsewhere where they were made to stand trial for "war crimes." have "confessed" to brutalities under "duress" or inducements. Documents, testimony and confessions as well as affidavits presented at Nuremberg and elsewhere were frequently produced and signed after psychological and physical torture of its authors.

 

For proof of torture of captured Germans by the Allies, read Legions of Death, a book by Rupert Butler, an English writer, who gives a vivid description of how the wartime, one-time Concentration Camp Commandant, Rudolf Hoess, was beaten mercilessly and drugged with alcohol for several days before he signed his famous "confession" admitting to two-and-a-half million of people gassed in gas chambers in Auschwitz.

 

Suffice it to say here that this so-called "confession" was written in English, and that Hoess did not speak or even understand English. (2Butler, Rupert, Legions of Death, Hamlyn Paperbacks, Great Britain, 1983, pp 10-12)

 

Julius Streicher, to name another German official who was savagely tortured by American interrogators to extract a "confession," reported that he was beaten so badly that he lost 40% of his hearing. He was kept naked in an unheated cell and was made to drink from the latrine. Guards forced his teeth open with a stick so as to spit in his mouth. ("Streicher Opens His Case,", London Times, April 27. 1946)

 

This information was later expunged from the Nuremberg Trial transcripts, with the consent of the president of the Tribunal and even the "defense" lawyer.

 

Yet another source is the Simpson van Rhoden Commission of Enquiry into the conduct of US interrogators during the Malmedy-Dachau trials. This commission reported mistreatment and tortures, including mock trials, the administering of fake confessions by equally fake "priests," beatings, hoodings etc. to get forced confessions out of prisoners. (The Progressive, written by Judge Edward L. Van Rhoden in February of 1949 entitled American Atrocities in Germany)

 

Here is a sample of how such "confessions" were routinely obtained:

 

"American investigators at the U.S. Court in Dachau, Germany, used the following methods to obtain confessions:

 

Beatings and brutal kickings. Knocking out teeth and breaking jaws. Mock trials. Solitary confinement. Posturing as priests. Very limited rations. Spiritual deprivation. Promises of acquittal (ed. expl: if the victim implicated fellow prisoners to corroborate the Allied trial scenarios) . . . All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair." (Did Six Million Really Die? Report of the Evidence in the Canadian "False News" Trial of Ernst Zündel - 1988, Edited by Barbara Kulaszka, pp 44-45)

 

U.S. Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone, referring to the Nuremberg trials and speaking of the American Chief Prosecutor, Jackson, had this to say, as quoted in a Viking Press hard cover, "Harlan Fiske Stone: Pillar of the Law:"

 

"Jackson is away conducting his high grade lynching party in Nuremberg," he remarked. "I don't mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law.

 

This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas." (Mason, Thomas, Harlan Fiske Stone: Pillar of the Law, Alpheus The Viking Press, page 746)

 

An accusation does not make a fact. A headline does not make a fact. A tortured prisoner making a "confession" cannot make his words a fact.

 

Here is another good example of a "well-documented" crime:

 

The Germans were accused at Nuremberg of having killed 15,000 Polish officers and members of the Polish elite at Katyn. Seven German military officers and soldiers were executed by the Soviets after a trial in which more than 4,000 (!) sworn affidavits and dozens of "experts" and "witnesses" were proffered by the Stalinist prosecutors.

 

In 1989, Soviet leader Gorbachev admitted publicly that the Stalin regime was responsible for these mass murders of the Poles. Not the Germans. America's ally - Joseph Stalin! - had ordered the killings!

 

So if Judge Thomas T. Johnson of the California Superior Court, and Judge Thomas of the Toronto District Court took smug "Judicial Notice" of the Holocaust, they based it on "readily available" documentation tortured and coerced out of the victims of Allied torture masters.

 

What kind of "documented evidence" is that? It would not be permissible in any U.S. or Canadian Court.

 

In Nuremberg and in many subsequent trials against so-called "Nazi war crimes" these methods were routinely accepted and "acceptable" as a matter of policy and "the rules."

because its a proven fact and its one of the worst things that has happened in human history' date=' i think it was the biggest genocide to ever occur. thats why[/quote']

 

 

They insult the Prophet of God Muhammed and all what they said is fake

 

But no one punish them or even say [ where your evidence ] they just screamed and said

 

 

Freedom of Speech

maldini how to you explain the top level nazi's executed by the world for the holocaust? they had trials to prove this on the world stage.

They insult the Prophet of God Muhammed and all what they said is fake

 

But no one punish them or even say [ where your evidence ] they just screamed and said

 

 

Freedom of Speech

 

you're alowed to insult god and jews and not get in trouble......

they insult jews and their god all the time and never get punished too...geez it goes both ways

 

in fact its common practice to insult jews and their god in western culture.

 

in america a slang term for a selfish person is a jews...if you're called jewish its an insult in modern american culture. no one gets punished for that...

I don't think it so easy!!!The core of the question as is see is the fact the you cannot approve the World's (or maybe US') support to Israel....

a thing is what Israel means now for US or their allies, and another thing is the holocaust.....

 

 

You can't prove that USA support Israel and MR.Bush ready to hurt his people in favour of Israel

 

Just see his actions

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