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Israel / Lebanon / Iran / Syria - Middle East conflict!

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that is coz u and mrcool didt want to change your thoughts and belives if you are wrong,just arguing

like 1+1=2 u say no =3.

another thing i didt belive by holocaust

 

You really dont believe the holocaust happened?

 

Why?

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U.S. built major Iranian nuclear facility

 

Florida Sun-Sentinel/Sam Roe | August 24 2006

 

In the heart of Tehran sits one of Iran's most important nuclear facilities, a dome-shaped building where scientists have conducted secret experiments that could help the country build atomic bombs. It was provided to the Iranians by the United States.

 

The Tehran Research Reactor represents a little-known aspect of the international uproar over the country's alleged weapons program. Not only did the U.S. provide the reactor in the 1960s as part of a Cold War strategy, America also supplied the weapons-grade uranium needed to power the facility—fuel that remains in Iran and could be used to help make nuclear arms.

 

As the U.S. and other countries wrestle with Iran's refusal this week to curb its nuclear capabilities, an examination of the Tehran facility sheds light on the degree to which the United States has been complicit in Iran developing those capabilities.

 

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we helped start their program while the shah was in power, once he lost power we didnt help them. so for the last 20 years or so they havent had amerian help.

 

america has a history of screwing itself over, we militarized japan...we helped start a nuclear program in iran that will bite us in the ass.

america has a history of screwing itself over' date=' we militarized japan...we helped start a nuclear program in iran that will bite us in the ass.[/quote']

So you brought it on yourselves? interesting...

The man who built a house on the sand.

 

Do we sit there and laugh? or help him to keep his home?

 

America has done lots of interfering throughout history. Only with the benefit of hindsight do we know they were wrong on occasions.

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Israel feels US will not attack Iran

 

YAAKOV KATZ, HERB KEINON AND NATHAN GUTTMAN / Jerusalem Post | August 25 2006

 

There is growing consensus within the defense establishment that the United States will not attack Iran, and that Israel might be forced to act independently to stop the Islamic republic from obtaining nuclear weapons, a high-ranking defense official told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.

 

According to sources within the defense establishment, the Bush administration does not have political support for launching a strike against Iran's nuclear sites. "America is stuck in Iraq and cannot go after Iran militarily right now," the official said.

 

The defense official blasted the US for "not doing enough" to stop Teheran's race to the bomb. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, he said, was leading the State Department in the direction of "appeasement."

 

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This whole attack on Iran is taking many twists....hmmmmm.....I shall be watching closely.

So you brought it on yourselves? interesting...

 

too some degree, just as we brought ww2 on us as did europe.

America does not have enough troops right now to attack, and if we did things would get much worse in iraq.

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"Folks, We Are Being Set Up Again!"

Iran's Nuclear "Threat"

 

By JUAN COLE

 

08/25/06 "Counterpunch" -- -- Here is what the professionals are saying about the Republican-dominated Subcommittee on Intelligence Policy report on Iran that slams US intelligence professionals for poor intelligence on Iran: The report demonstrates that these Republicans have poor intelligence . . . on Iran. What follows is summaries of things I've seen from other experts but I can't identify them without permission..

 

First of all, former CIA professionals Larry Johnson and Jim Marcinkowski point out that the Republicans have a lot of damn gall. It was high members of this Republican administration who leaked to the Iranians and the whole world the name of Valerie Plame, an undercover CIA operative who spent her professional career combatting the proliferation of WMD and was, at the time she was betrayed by Traitor Rove and his merry band, working on Iran. Had it not been for these Republican figures, none of whom has yet been punished in any way for endangering US national security, we might know more about Iran.

 

It is being said that the staffer who headed the report is Frederick Fleitz, who was a special assistant to John Bolton when Bolton was undersecretary of state for proliferation issues. Fleitz was sent to the unemployment line when Condi wisely exiled Bolton to the United Nations, where there is a long history of ill-tempered despots who like to bang their shoes on the podium. So this report is the long arm of Bolton popping up in Congress. It is Neoconservative propaganda.

 

I repeat what I have said before, which is that John Bolton is just an ill-tempered lawyer who has no special expertise in nuclear issues or in Iran, and aside from an ability to scare the bejesus out of young gofers who bring him coffee and to thunderously denounce on cue any world leader on whom he is sicced, he has no particular qualifications for his job.

 

Nor do the Republican congressmen know anything special about Iran's nuclear energy program. They certainly know much less than the CIA agents who work on it full time, some of whom know Persian and have actually done . . . intelligence work.

 

We are beset by instant experts on contemporary Iran, like the medievalist Bernard Lewis, who wrongly predicted that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would attack Israel on August 22, based on Lewis's weird interpretation of his alleged millenarian beliefs. Once the Neoconservatives went so far as actually to make fun of reality in the hearing of a reporter, their game was up.

 

Pete Hoekstra, who is the chair of this committee, has a long history of saying things that are disconnected from reality. Like when he made a big deal about some old shells with mustard gas found in Iraq left over from the 1980s Iran-Iraq War, and claimed that these were the fabled and long-sought Iraqi WMD over which 2600 of our service people are six feet under and another 8000 in wheelchairs. Nope.

 

Bolton at one point was exercised about an imaginary Cuban biological weapons program, which even his own staffers wouldn't support him on, and at one point he was alleging that Iranian mullahs were sneaking into Havana to help with it.

 

This congressional report is full of the same sort of wild fantasies.

 

On page 9, the report alleges that "Iran is currently enriching uranium to weapons grade using a 164-machine centrifuge cascade at this facility in Natanz."

 

This is an outright lie. Enriching to weapons grade would require at least 80% enrichment. Iran claims . . . 2.5 per cent. See how that isn't the same thing? See how you can't blow up anything with 2.5 percent?

 

The claim is not only flat wrong, but it is misleading in another way. You need 16,000 centrifuges, hooked up so that they cascade, to make enough enriched uranium for a bomb in any realistic time fame, even if you know how to get the 80 percent! Iran has . . . 164. See how that isn't the same?

 

The report cites the International Atomic Energy Agency only when it is critical of Iran. It does not tell us what the IAEA actually has found.

 

By the way, here is what IAEA head Mohamed Elbaradei said in early March, 2003, about Iraq:

 

'After three months of intrusive inspections, we have to date found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons programme in Iraq.'

 

At the same time, Republicans like Donald Rumsfeld were saying he knew exactly where Iraq's WMD was!

 

Elbaradei was right then, and Fleitz was wrong. Can't get fooled again.

 

And here is what the IAEA said about Iran just last January:

 

"Iran has continued to facilitate access under its Safeguards Agreement as requested by the Agency, and to act as if the Additional Protocol is in force, including by providing in a timely manner the requisite declarations and access to locations."

 

Last April Elbaradei complained about the hype around Iran's nuclear research, and said that there is no imminent threat from Iran.

 

The only thing that the IAEA knows for sure is that Iran has a peaceful nuclear energy research program. Such a program is not the same as a weapons program, and it is perfectly legal under the Nonproliferation Treaty, which Iran, unlike Israel, has actually signed.

 

The report allegedly vastly exaggerates the range of Iran's missiles and also exaggerates the number of its longer-range ones, and seems to think that Iran already has the Shahab-4, which it does not. It also doesn't seem to realize that Iran can't send missiles on other countries without receiving them back. Israel has more and longer-range missiles than Iran, and can quickly equip them with real nuclear warheads, not the imaginary variety in Fleitz's fevered brain.

 

Folks, we are being set up again.

 

Juan Cole is President of the Global Americana Institute.

hey

 

You really dont believe the holocaust happened?

 

Why?

yeah and soon will see in new thread, why it not true ?just fake...

yeah and soon will see in new thread' date=' why it not true ?just fake...[/quote']

 

 

Why do you debate? you dont know enough to keep up with anyone on here. even camille knows more about history and the world then you, thats pretty bad too...

you depending on one its copy and past without realize talking you say that acorrding to brainwash as what happened to you since you was kid so its not your foult it media.

 

I know full well whats its saying. btw the post you linked to was a copy and paste too smartass.

 

 

Btw the media didnt brainwash me, most my life BECAUSE of the media i was ANTI israel and pro palestine! not until i went agaisnt what i was taught and learned the facts for myself. so im going against what i was taught...by my culture and media. so please open your mouth when you know what you're talking about. i spent most my life with a different view on this subject. nice try

plz be behave when you talking.....

its not better coz you talking about palastine nationalty and all world admit by palastine nationalty and you come now and tell us this is fake...you just lie..

 

 

oh so how true something does not depend on facts or evidence but the amount of people who believe it!:rolleyes:

 

its documented using history and facts and researched. its a proven fact their are no such thing as actual palestinians. again i ask you to learn before you speak

plz be behave when you talking.....

 

I am, but if you dont know simple things then dont debate

 

i told you i spent most my life being taught israel was bad and evil....so im not brainwashed.

dont lose you mind

 

says the person who doesnt know much about the subject they are trying to debate.

once like you what i expected from him ...nothing but more you hated arab ppl and muslims like i see and all can see so if you can igenore all arab world you will do it.

say like what what you say no one will beliving you

nice try.

says the person who doesnt know much about the subject they are trying to debate.
i suppose i didt know ok but there is things didt need to be historian to realize it.

and if i know you will do thing said to to me it lies and some insult there is no differant but i didt talking to you but to who's really wants to know thue form fakes from your opinion and my and mildine opinion and leave to ppl to thinking and using their minds.

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