^^Wow, who would have thought it? You mean there might be less than meets the eye about the Great London Bomb Plot, when George W. Bush singlehandedly foiled the imminent death of thousands of people by using his super-president powers of warrantless wiretapping? (That is how the story is being pitched by Bush minions like the cadaverous Michael Chertoff and the chubby-cheeked enabler of torture Al Gonzales, right?)

 

But if even the CIA's old running buddies in the Pakistan secret services can't wring enough plausible evidence out of Rauf with their renowned methods of information extraction, could it be that the whole great googily-moogily is about to unravel? Wise man William Blum has this take:

 

 

"Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear -- kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor -- with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant funds demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real." -- General Douglas MacArthur, 1957.

 

....From what is typical in terrorist scares, it is likely that the individuals arrested in the UK August 10 are guilty of what George Orwell, in 1984, called "thoughtcrimes". That is to say, they haven't actually DONE anything. At most, they've THOUGHT about doing something the government would label "terrorism". Perhaps not even very serious thoughts, perhaps just venting their anger at the exceptionally violent role played by the UK and the US in the Mideast and thinking out loud how nice it would be to throw some of that violence back in the face of Blair and Bush. And then, the fatal moment for them that ruins their lives forever ... their angry words are heard by the wrong person, who reports them to the authorities. (In the Manhattan flood case the formidable, dangerous "terrorists" made mention on an Internet chat room about blowing something up.)

 

Soon a government agent provocateur appears, infiltrates the group, and then actually encourages the individuals to think and talk further about terrorist acts, to develop real plans instead of youthful fantasizing, and even provides the individuals with some of the actual means for carrying out these terrorist acts, like explosive material and technical know-how, money and transportation, whatever is needed to advance the plot. It's known as "entrapment", and it's supposed to be illegal, it's supposed to be a powerful defense for the accused, but the authorities get away with it all the time; and the accused get put away for very long stretches. And because of the role played by the agent provocateur, we may never know whether any of the accused, on their own, would have gone much further, if at all, like actually making a bomb, or, in the present case, even making transatlantic flight reservations since many of the accused reportedly did not even have passports. Government infiltrating and monitoring is one thing; encouragement, pushing the plot forward, and scaring the public to make political capital from it is quite something else.

 

 

Chris Floyd | August 21 2006

 

Kurt Nimmo, adds this telling gloss:

 

How fortuitous, especially for the neocons and Bush’s Ministry of Homeland Security, busily working to trounce the Constitution and turn America into a snoop and police state.

 

“Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff called on state legislators Thursday to embrace new federal driver’s license requirements to strengthen security,” reports the Associated Press. “Starting three years from now, if you live or work in the United States, you’ll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service. Practically speaking, your driver’s license likely will have to be reissued to meet federal standards,” explained CNet News in March. In addition to name, birth date, sex, ID number, a digital photograph, and address, “Homeland Security is permitted to add additional requirements—such as a fingerprint or retinal scan—on top of those.” In short, without this new card, slotted to go online by 2008, you will be unable to function in society.

 

 

Yeah, but with all the extra security keeping us so safe, they'll probably let you take your Metamucil on a plane. That's enough freedom for anybody, right?

i think what happened in uk is fake and that was dealing with usa goverment to make world hated arab more and make world blind and with isreali in his masscares in labanon or palastine.

this events will happening every time isreali or usa or any allies with them attacking on arabian countries to fight torrests like they say but torrest in themselves.

like events of 11 september and war on bakestan,iraq and his nuclar weapon.

all of were fake just human masscares.

i think what happened in uk is fake and that was dealing with usa goverment to make world hated arab more and make world blind and with isreali in his masscares in labanon or palastine.

this events will happening every time isreali or usa or any allies with them attacking on arabian countries to fight torrests like they say but torrest in themselves.

like events of 11 september and war on bakestan,iraq and his nuclar weapon.

all of were fake just human masscares.

 

 

yes everything they do is to make arabs look like monsters! man nothing gets past you:rolleyes:

 

Its sad whem mulsims dont realize their TRUE enemies are muslim extremist who enslave them and cause such hard times no them.

The Arab world hates Jews and anyone who supports them.

 

Not all do of course but the haters are the majority.

The Arab world hates Jews and anyone who supports them.

 

Not all do of course but the haters are the majority.

 

Sadly yes, but you can't blame them. they are brainwashed. they grow up in most arab countries being taught all jews are evil and want to kill mulims and take their land. kinda like the hitler youth were brainwashed.

Errmm...Hmmmm...

 

Did Insiders Milk Terror Plot For Criminal Trading?

Indian newspaper highlights suspicious patterns, 9/11 and 7/7 were also preceded by insider trading

 

Paul Joseph Watson | August 24 2006

 

Did criminal insider speculators with informants inside the British intelligence apparatus take advantage of their foreknowledge of the announcement of a foiled terror plot to place put options on airline stocks, reaping the benefits of their subsequent fall?

 

So says the India Daily, claiming strange patterns in airline stocks preceded the announcement - and that carefully placed money was waiting on the sidelines to jump in and buy the stocks as cheaper prices before they rose again in subsequent trading.

 

Airline stocks dropped as much as 28 per cent during morning trading following the announcement of the alleged liquid bomb plot.

 

Though the report can be quantified as nothing more than speculation at this point, it mirrors murmurs we've been receiving from stock brokers who also claim potential foul play.

 

If true it would also dovetail with similar activity prior to the 9/11 attacks and the 7/7 bombings in London.

 

9/11 was preceded by suspicious put options in large quantities placed on American and United Airlines which betrayed advance knowledge of the attack. The investigation as to who was responsible for authorizing the transactions led directly back to former CIA director Buzzy Krongard.

 

In the case of the London bombings, the pound fell 6 per cent against the dollar for no apparent reason in the 10 days before the attack.

 

"Currencies of established countries simply do not fall that fast based upon any kind of economic or financial analysis," said a 35 year veteran economist. "Somebody – somewhere – knew something. Or maybe I should say 'somebodies.'"

 

Since even the official investigation concluded that the alleged suicide bombers had no outside links and were 'lone wolf' operatives, though this is tempered by the fact that the ringleader Khan was an MI5 informant, then one can only assume that elements within the British government profited from their foreknowledge of the attack.

 

Indications are that the same criminals took advantage of the fact that the decision and timing to announce the alleged foiled plot to blow up transatlantic airliners was carefully chosen at least a week in advance according to published reports. This would have provided the insider traders with ample time to arrange the transactions.

^ your're an idiot.

 

 

and what does that make you for denying the truth?

 

its a documented fact many arab kids are taught this...... guess you dont wanna knkwo the truth.

 

kids in sryia's schools are taught jews want to drink their blood and take their land.

 

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/patext1.html\

 

Syria's kids are taught that Jews should be liquidated Anti-Semitism

 

The Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com) reports that Syria's school textbooks call for Jihad (holy war) and support for the elimination of Israel. Syrian kids are also taught "about the treacherous intention harbored in the Jews' souls" and that Jews deserve to be liquidated.

 

Eighth-graders are taught that, "It is known that the Jews of today do not have any connection to Palestine," and sixth-graders learn that "The Prophet [Mohammed] knew about the treacherous intention harbored in the Jews' souls."

 

By age 15, Syrian children are read in their Islamic studies textbooks that Jews deserve to be liquidated: "Co-existence with them or having them as neighbors, is an enormous danger that threatens Islamic and Arab existence with destruction and extinction Their criminal intention should be turned against them by way of their elimination."

 

The study also highlights Syria's contradictory role in the international arena. Listed as one of seven sponsors of international terrorism by the US State Department, Syria also holds the rotating presidency of the United Nations Security Council and co-chairs its Human Rights Commission, based in Geneva.

 

http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc106.php

 

 

YOU are the idiot. what i said is backed up and true.

 

this has been widely said by many arabs, in different arab nations that growing up they were taught the jews were evil and wanted their land....you can deny this if you wish, but you can also deny the holocaust, but the outcome is the same, you're dumb as crap. you are more narrowminded then camille and thats pretty bad.

 

Buchanan: Bush Responsible For Next Terror Attack If Borders Stay Open

War is the health of the state says best selling author as he warns of 'third world invasion'

 

Paul Joseph Watson | August 29 2006

 

Pat Buchanan, currently riding high in the New York Times bestseller list with his book The Third World Invasion, told the Alex Jones Show that if there was another terror attack in the US, George W. Bush would be responsible due to his refusal to control the borders and that his place in history would be finished.

 

Here is the exchange from the show.

 

CALLER: "If 9/11 and the war on terror is indeed legitimate, why wasn't the border totally militarily secured on September 12th 2001?"

 

BUCHANAN: "It's because George Bush doesn't want to secure that border - I do believe he wants an open border between the United States and Mexico - he does not share the concern of a lot of us that this is a national security problem."

 

ALEX JONES: "Pat, won't he just get more power if there's another terror attack - that he could take more American liberties?"

 

BUCHANAN: "I think if the terrorists have come across that Mexican border, I think his place in history is finished."

 

ALEX JONES: "But my point is, if he got so much power out of 9/11 and got to grandstand...."

 

BUCHANAN: "Well there's no doubt about it, war is the health of the state."

 

ALEX JONES: "So do you agree with me that they could try to spin it, even though with common sense we would see it as another attack, they could kind of spin it and ignore the border issue and Bush could get even more power out of it?"

 

BUCHANAN: "Well yes, sure, sure, he might put in a lot more laws and things like that but I do think people would say look, you did not seal that border just as the caller said when you had three or four, when you had five years to do it you didn't do it and now we got hit again - you are responsible this time."

 

 

Buchanan went on to warn that the open borders policy is being crafted by the Republican elite in alliance with Mexico's Vicente Fox.

 

"Fox and Bush have been colluding on this policy since before 9/11 - Vicente Fox was standing right beside Bush when Bush declared the Minutemen vigilantes," said Buchanan.

 

Buchanan said the elite were targeting the middle class for destruction and using rampant illegal immigration to realize that goal.

 

"I do believe that the American middle and working class of this country as I wrote in the title of an earlier book, are victims of a great betrayal - their manufacturing jobs are being sent abroad, illegal aliens are coming being invited into their country, the products of China are pouring in, American jobs are being lost, they're bringing in Indian kids and bright young kids from Bangladesh to take the jobs of Americans."

 

"The middle class is under assault," said Buchanan as he illustrated the deliberate agenda for mega corporations to construct a new world order system.

 

"Their ambition is to remove all national barriers and frontiers so they can move people and goods wherever they want to which they feel is most efficient for the company - so they put the company ahead of the country and they genuinely believe that what we need is a global market where these big corporations can move all over the global market and there's a global government there that runs it all - this is the new world order idea."

 

Buchanan identified "the Crystals and the Weekly Standard and all the rest of them," along with the Rockefeller Republican hierarchy as the masterminds behind the push to eliminate US sovereignty and put in place the American Union.

 

"I think if the Republicans do not secure these borders they're going to be wiped out - now the Democrats aren't going to do it either but you'll get a new kind of Republican party coming," said Buchanan.

Gareth great article you posted

 

 

 

Buchanan has a point. Bush is fucking everything up.

 

Republicans and democrats are fucking up our nation....damn we need a new party or our old ones back.

 

the republicans and democrats have polarized. both sides becoming much more radical.

 

hell half the "conservatives" of today arent even conservative. most the "liberals" of today arent liberal. America is going down the crapper.

 

The more time passes the more really dislike Bush....although their isnt much he can do about this situation, when most of the goverment wont do anything...both sides are a major problem. I've renounce my membership in the republican party. Im an independent now. Unless we get more people like Pat Buchanan, John Mccain, Joe lieberman and Zell miller, our nation is in trouble.

 

The republicans are still the lesser of two evils, but thats not saying much anymore.

"Pat is a real conservative. Bush is not. He is merely masquerading as a conservative to get the conservative vote."

 

I think this sums it up.

 

here's the audio of the interview

 

 

 

part 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=SXm7BOE_AsE

 

Part 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=eDA1dyOdTwU

 

part 3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=l9AokTYonl8

 

 

part 4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=1XMz8h2l9fU

 

 

part 5 http://youtube.com/watch?v=MaZSBVOSQJQ

 

the polarization of both party's is VERY scary. We elected a moron into office, but sadly we had no better options.

 

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

 

Military-Industrial Complex Kingpins Call For Genocide To Kick-Start World War Three

Bogus hyped threats used to justify holocaust style genocide, redrawing of borders in middle east

 

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | September 1 2006

 

The military-industrial complex is gearing up to ethnically cleanse the entire middle east in a genocidal purge that will be a curtain raiser for world war three as preparations for a nuclear air strike on Iran remain on stand-by absent only the monolithic staged terror attack or false-flag provocation that will justify them.

 

Armed Forces Journal, a mouthpiece for the military-industrial complex, recently carried a strategy plan for completely redrawing the borders of the Middle East written by retired Major Ralph Peters.

 

Peters lambastes the Neo-Cons for not having stamped enough influence (or chaos) on the middle east and calls for the use of genocide in realizing the Neo-Fascist's dream of a completely reinvented Middle East run by the same cabal currently responsible for untold war crimes In Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon.

 

"Oh, and one other dirty little secret from 5,000 years of history," writes Peters, "Ethnic cleansing works."

 

His twisted justification is that major crises around the globe are converging and that a massive economic crash is set to occur in 2008. Two of those converging disasters are listed as global warming and peak oil - which as we have exhaustively documented are monumental con jobs manufactured out of thin air to justify increased control over the personal lives of Westerners, feudalism, and expansion of empire.

 

An economic collapse doesn't worry the families that own the Federal Reserve and America because they will be the only ones to benefit from it.

 

The ten major shareholders of the Federal Reserve are as follows.

 

Rothschild: London and Berlin; Lazard Bros: Paris; Israel Seiff: Italy; Kuhn- Loeb Company: Germany; Warburg: Hamburg and Amsterdam; Lehman Bros; New York; Goldman and Sachs: New York; Rockefeller: New York.

 

Financial collapses are routinely preceded by insiders who are aware of the imminent downfall moving their assets and then buying them back for pennies on the dollar in the aftermath. So the graven necessity in which mass genocide is sold to us is inherently flawed and the justification for its implementation is a gargantuan deception.

 

Peters goes on to illustrate how our lives will be mired in a never ending cycle of war, terror and fear as he lays out the manifesto for world war three.

 

"There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive. The de facto role of the US armed forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing."

 

click for bigger picture

 

How the Middle East will look after it is ethnically cleansed by the "liberating" Neo-Fascist assault. Click to enlarge.

 

The endless drumbeat of propaganda tells us that it is Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who advocates genocide, yet scratch beneath the surface and the real protagonists of a vampiric holocaust to ethnically cleanse the middle east of Arabs are the US and Israeli Neo-Fascist crime syndicates that have hijacked our governments.

 

The megalomaniacs that control Israel wish to live in a world largely devoid of Muslims or Persians and they have embarked on a hundred year plus mission of ethnic cleansing to wipe them from the globe. The blitzkrieg of Lebanon is part of this process.

 

Race-specific bio-weapons have already been developed for this purpose.

 

From Wired News,

 

"Israel is reportedly developing a biological weapon that would harm Arabs while leaving Jews unaffected, according to a report in London's Sunday Times."

 

"The report, citing Israeli military and western intelligence sources, says that scientists are trying to identify distinctive genes carried by Arabs to create a genetically modified bacterium or virus."

 

"The "ethno-bomb" program is based at Israel's Nes Tziyona research facility. Scientists are trying to use viruses and bacteria to alter DNA inside living cells and attack only those cells bearing Arabic genes."

 

Imagine if plans were unearthed detailing a program on behalf of Kim Jong-il or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to create an ethno-bomb to wipe out Jews or caucasians. How would Israel and the United States react?

 

Only Israel is allowed to be nuclear-armed, violate dozens of UN treaties, use chemical weapons on civilians, and construct horrific policies of ethnic cleansing.

 

Israel have made a pact to carry out this agenda in league with the Neo-Cons, and above them the Globalists, whose desire is also world population reduction and complete full spectrum domination and control over all countries and near-Earth space itself.

 

All these facets are openly discussed by the elite in their own public documents.

 

"...advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

 

Who wrote these words in their own strategy document? The Nazis? The regime of Pol Pot?

 

No, it was Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol and the rest of the Neo-Fascist collaborators that formed the Project For a New American Century - the ideological framework of the Bush administration.

 

When we witness future atrocities that inflict death, misery and suffering on large numbers of the population will we recall who bragged about metering out such terror in the first place?

 

As manufactured terror alerts, magnified turmoil in the Middle East, and dire proclamations that doomsday is approaching all converge at the end of the summer of 2006, the twist in the story is likely to be a massive staged terror attack that will smother any remaining voices of dissent and once again leave America transfixed in an orgy of militarism, paranoia and fear.

 

The Israeli bombardment of Lebanon is the next escalation of a conflict that is being orchestrated according to a set roadmap that leads directly to World War Three.

 

Israel, the United States and Great Britain have been caught red-handed on numerous occasions staging terror attacks and false flag provocations in the Middle East for over 50 years.

 

 

The next big provocation is intended to prod Iran into launching what will be presented by the world's media as a pre-emptive action, unjustified by any US or Israeli intervention and used as war propaganda to mandate nuclear air strikes to oust Ahmadinejad's regime.

 

Some see Ahmadinejad himself as just a cameo player in a rigged game. Greg Palast has suggested he could be reading off a script and has been in the pocket of the Neo-Fascists all along. Ahmadinejad and Bush are very close cousins in the context that they both believe their own ego and divine right to rule alone is enough to save them from the judgment of history. Contrast Ahmadinejad's behavior with that of Hugo Chavez - Chavez is completely obsessed with the fact that the US are trying to instigate regime change in Venezuela and he's shouting it from the rooftops in the media every week. Though the scheduled air strike of Iran is even more inevitable, Ahmadinejad remains seemingly unperturbed.

 

Others compare the actual context and meaning of Ahmadinejad's speeches with the bellicose hubris of warmongers who call him the new Hitler and say he wants to eradicate Israel.

 

Ahmadinejad never militarily threatened to "wipe Israel off the map," this is firstly a gross mistranslation and it is also taken completely out of context. Ahmadinejad called for the future end of the political system of Zionism, not to ethnically cleanse an entire country. In addition, earlier this week Ahmadinejad said on record that Iran "was no threat to Israel or any nation," but you won't hear Fox news repeating that particular quote every 5 minutes, because it doesn't correlate with the "Mad Mahmoud" image that the Neo-Fascists are trying to construct to justify their next act of bloodletting.

 

If there is some kind of staged attack in the US then as always we will look at who has the capability and the motive to pull it off - especially in light of the fact that Dick Cheney's USSTRATCOM contingency plan calls for attacking Iran in the immediate aftermath of a 'second 9/11' - no matter who is behind it - which of course is going to be the cabal Dick Cheney fronts for itself and the same pack of murderers that are actively seeking to initiate global ethic cleansing and genocide to bring about world war three.

I think the Iranian president looks far cooler than any of our western leaders

He is showing his bling in that pic.

I think the Iranian president looks far cooler than any of our western leaders

 

He looks cooler but he's more pychotic(sp?)

 

Dirty Bombs, Toxic Clouds, Martial Law and Extermination Squads Right At Your Door

 

Steve Watson / Infowars | September 1 2006

 

Due to be released here in the UK 3 days before the 5 year anniversary of 9/11 is a film that depicts massive terror attacks in downtown LA involving multiple dirty bombs that engulf the city in toxic clouds.

 

Right At Your Door, written and directed by Chris Gorak and starring Rory Cochrane, is a relatively low budget Independent thriller that was snapped up by UK company Lionsgate and will be mass distributed this September. The film will be released in the US sometime in 2007.

 

According to the film's official website the synopsis is thus:

 

After multiple dirty bombs are detonated, spreading deadly toxic ash across Los Angeles, Brad (Rory Cochrane) inadvertently quarantines his wife, Lexi (Mary McCormack) outside their new home by safely sealing himself inside. With the city under siege and Martial Law in affect, Brad and Lexi struggle to survive with little supply, limited time and no information—all the while separated by thin doors and thinner sheets of plastic. When "help" finally does arrive, it appears to be anything but.

 

From what we can gather the "help" referred to consists of squads of toxic suit wearing troops and cops that cuff and take away contaminated survivors in unmarked black vans. Cochrane's character even suggests that he has seen cops on the streets exterminating survivors by shooting them in the head.

 

 

The radio and media reports in the aftermath of the attacks are unhelpful, speculative and misleading and help to engender a climate of mass panic and fear throughout the city. A martial law situation is implemented in the wake of this.

 

See below for the trailers:

 

[media=400,400,false]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFnw1qOCvbo[/media]

 

[media=400,400,false]http://infowars.net/video/RightAtYourDoor.wmv[/media]

 

In reality it has been suggested on numerous occasions by different officials within the government and the military that in the immediate aftermath of a major terror attack on a US city, martial law would replace the US Constitution.

 

In 2003, UK police levelheaded that they may have to shoot any victims of a chemical, biological, nuclear or radiological strike.

 

The preparation for such a dirty bomb attack has already been subconsciously planted in the minds of the American and British public and it is not too far a stretch to suggest that a martial law coup d'état of the civilian control mechanisms of our countries could be played out using a staged biological or chemical event as an excuse.

 

In January of 2003 FBI and CIA whistleblowers told Capitol Hill Blue that the White House was scripting phony terror alerts to maintain hysteria, upkeep President Bush’s approval ratings and milk extra defense funding. The report that five Pakistani men had entered the States via Canada and were planning on carrying out a dirty bomb or biological attack was completely conjured up by the Bush administration’s black propaganda office. New York Harbor was shut down to visibly pump up the fear. One of the named suspects, Mohammed Asghar, was tracked down to Pakistan by the Associated Press. He was a fat guy running a jewelers shop and had never even been to America.

 

In June of this year it was revealed that a plot involving chemical weapons and targets in Toronto was totally fabricated and that the chemical weapons "never existed".

 

In the last fortnight charges were dropped against US citizen Jose Padilla, the "enemy combatant" who was reportedly about to set off dirty bombs in the US when he was detained. the judge cited a total lack of evidence.

 

And of course the latest highly dubious plot, which has been roundly criticized as grossly exaggerated at best, involved chemical liquid bombs on planes.

 

These are jut a few of the hundreds of phony reports of Chemical or "dirty" Bomb attacks being "right at our doors".

 

In reality, the actual fallout of a dirty bomb attack has been totally distorted and blown out of all proportion by the government and the media. According to research, the potential effects of a dirty bomb are known to be very limited in scope. A dirty bomb is not a nuclear weapon that creates a large blast. Rather, it is a combination of an explosive and radioactive material designed to spread radioactive material and contaminate a small area.

 

In fact, according to the Nuclear Energy institute, being near the site where a dirty bomb is exploded would not even guarantee that people would be exposed to the radioactive material.

 

"At the radiation levels created by most probable sources of radiation, there would not be enough radiation in the bomb to cause severe illness from exposure to radiation."

 

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission echoes these facts:

 

At the levels created by most probable sources, not enough radiation would be present in a dirty bomb to kill people or cause severe illness. For example, most radioactive material employed in hospitals for diagnosis or treatment of cancer is sufficiently benign that about 100,000 patients a day are released with this material in their bodies.

 

Furthermore the dispersal of the materials would only spread a few blocks before becoming too weak to have any effect. Certainly huge toxic cloud raining death ash over the entirety of LA is pure fantasy.

 

The effects would only be more significant should the most rare, deadly and highly radioactive material be employed in such an attack. This kind of material is highly regulated by government agencies, which impose strict safety and security requirements. Therefore should such a deadly attack occur the prime suspects would be rogue elements of said government agencies.

 

So why are the authorities talking about shooting on the spot survivors of a dirty bomb attack?

 

 

Of the forthcoming movie, Rich Cline of the Shadows on the Wall review site states:

 

There's a double-edged timeliness here that sends chills down the spine. The atrocity itself is reminiscent of events in Bali, Madrid and London, while the poor official response echoes the situation in New Orleans (although this film was made before Hurricane Katrina struck). In the end, Gorak indulges in a couple of ironic plot points that seem unnecessarily morbid. He's extremely critical of both the authorities and the media. And it progresses, the film feels somewhat repetitive. But the dialog and acting are so honest that it's impossible to look away.

 

It remains to be seen whether or not the film is another attempt to mass market fear and terror without focusing on the facts or whether Gorak's approach is more of a critique of the "post 9-11 mindset" and recent movies such as United 93.

 

We will carry a review of the film upon its release in the UK next week.

there is thing i say

about whats happened now

1 when israeli attacking on labanon and world emotion's was supporting labanon and condemned by isreali attacks what happened?

britian goverment said there is 20 muslims want to bombing them selves into trains.

what do you think about this event?

its fake coz

1-to back world emotion's to supporting isreal again.

2-to make a propaganda about islamic or arab torrorism phenomna

so the world will back about supporting labanese ppl and muslims there

3-why every war or raid to islamic world something like that happened such as osama ben laden and pentagon or iraq and nuclear weapon or labanon and fake attacks.

4-why did it happened at this time how did it come?

5-20 arabian has arrested it so big number with out any one from them was bombing himself.

6-why in america and england most muslims or arabian ppl bombing or doing anything like that there not any anther western country.

http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/

6-why in america and england most muslims or arabian ppl bombing or doing anything like that there not any anther western country.

 

Because muslims in these countries are being brainwashed by radical elements of Islam. Anyway i'm sure the citizens of Madrid, Russia, Austrailia and Denmark might have something to say about that.

Because muslims in these countries are being brainwashed by radical elements of Islam. Anyway i'm sure the citizens of Madrid' date=' Russia, Austrailia and Denmark might have something to say about that.[/quote']

you brainwashed

 

answer my question dont change our topic

why

there is thing i say

about whats happened now

1 when israeli attacking on labanon and world emotion's was supporting labanon and condemned by isreali attacks what happened?

britian goverment said there is 20 muslims want to bombing them selves into trains.

what do you think about this event?

its fake coz

1-to back world emotion's to supporting isreal again.

2-to make a propaganda about islamic or arab torrorism phenomna

so the world will back about supporting labanese ppl and muslims there

3-why every war or raid to islamic world something like that happened such as osama ben laden and pentagon or iraq and nuclear weapon or labanon and fake attacks.

4-why did it happened at this time how did it come?

5-20 arabian has arrested it so big number with out any one from them was bombing himself.

6-why in america and england most muslims or arabian ppl bombing or doing anything like that there not any anther western country.

Sorry but their are muslim terrorist doing bad things.

Sorry but their are muslim terrorist doing bad things.

firstly you didt answer my questions

secondly you said that without any evidence and how are you know they were a muslims ? and i said its fake

read my topic again

Pakistan 'role in Mumbai attacks'

 

BBC | September 30 2006

 

Pakistan's intelligence agency was behind the train blasts in Mumbai in July that killed 186 people, Indian police say.

 

The attacks were planned by the ISI and carried out by the Islamist militant group Lashkar-e-Toiba, based in Pakistan, Mumbai's police chief said.

 

AN Roy said the Students' Islamic Movement of India had also assisted.

 

Pakistan rejected the allegations and said India had given no evidence of Pakistani involvement in the attacks.

 

"We have solved the 11 July bombings case. The whole attack was planned by Pakistan's ISI and carried out by Lashkar-e-Toiba and their operatives in India," Mumbai (Bombay) police commissioner AN Roy told a news conference.

 

'Baseless'

 

Mr Roy said 15 people had been arrested, and that some of the bombers had received training in Pakistan.

 

Tariq Azim Khan, Pakistan's minister of state for information, rejected the allegations.

 

"We are still studying the Indian statement. Needless to say, this is once again baseless allegations - yet another attempt by India to malign Pakistan," he told the BBC.

 

"Both the president and the prime minister condemned this terrorist attack on the train when it happened. But India also must look at home for reasons for this growing insurgency at home," he said.

 

On 11 July 2006, seven co-ordinated blasts within 15 minutes ripped through trains on Mumbai's busy commuter network.

 

Indian security officials suggested early on in their investigations that the bombings bore the hallmarks of Lashkar-e-Toiba, a leading militant group fighting in Kashmir and based in Pakistan.

 

Pakistan denied any involvement in the blasts and Lashkar-e-Toiba condemned the attacks.

 

India postponed talks with Pakistan after the bombs, but Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf met recently in Cuba and said they had agreed to resume talks.

 

The two nations, both nuclear armed, have fought three wars since independence, two over the disputed territory of Kashmir.

Comment: Once again a Government's intelligence agency is revealed to be behind terror attacks and in control of the "Islamists". The ISI is basically an extension of the CIA in the middle east.

 

Alleged Liquid Bomb Plot Credibility Crumbles

Court clears Rauf of charges as much vaunted transatlantic airliner attack dissipates into another staged terror alert

 

Wednesday, December 13, 2006

 

The alleged ringleader of a much vaunted plot to blow up multiple transatlantic airliners using liquid explosives has been cleared of terrorism charges and of being a member of any terrorist group, rendering August's terror scare another hyped creation of government scare mongering.

 

In every single major terror bust or terror alert we have proven the evidence to be flawed and the charges to be cooked up nonsense aimed at prolonging the illusion that terror cells are lurking around every corner waiting to cause mayhem. The geopolitical agenda of the U.S., Britain and Israel depends on the proliferation phony terror threats in order to continue the farcical war on terror and take more of our innate freedoms at home to stifle dissent against the plot for worldwide hegemony.

 

The supposed transatlantic bomb plot has dissipated into another staged terror alert.

 

The BBC reports,

 

"A Pakistani judge has ruled there is not enough evidence to try a key suspect in an alleged airline bomb plot on terrorism charges.

He has moved the case of Rashid Rauf, a Briton, from an anti-terrorism court to a regular court, where he faces lesser charges such as forgery."

 

"The Pakistani authorities described him as a key figure."

 

"But an anti-terrorism court in Rawalpindi found no evidence that he had been involved in terrorist activities or that he belonged to a terrorist organisation."

 

Since the panic surrounding the ridiculous hoax that led to an outright ban on all liquids in U.S. and British airports, the credibility of the alleged plot itself has crumbled.

 

In a series of reports following the August 10th scare, we traced the source of the alleged attack plot to Pakistani and British intelligence and were rapidly able to confirm that the story was nothing more than a manufactured ploy to frighten travelers at the height of the holiday season.

 

 

It comes as no surprise that the Pakistanis have acquitted Rashid Rauf. His involvement with the Lashkar-e-Toiba group provides a direct lineage back to the Pakistani ISI, which is in turn controlled by the CIA and British intelligence. Rauf likely acted as the willing patsy for the plot to be pinned on while the Blair government waved it in front of Britons as another reason for them to accept the Blairstrip One fascist surveillance state without dissent.

 

It was revealed that the alleged terrorist cell that planned to blow up ten planes had been completely infiltrated for weeks before the announcement of the foiled plot by British intelligence. From the evidence at hand allied with past history of how MI5 work, which was presented in our article, it can be reasonably claimed that an MI5 mole within the group orchestrated the entire operation.

 

According to news reports the British government and MI5 wanted to wait at least a week before busting the liquid terror cell that their agents had fully infiltrated, including planting a mole within the bomb squad. From the acknowledged timeline and admission that the real attack was scheduled for August 16th - little else can be deduced but the shocking fact that MI5 wanted the bombings to go forward - arresting the perpetrators only after the attack.

 

Echoing the activities of the 7/7 bombers, some of the main suspects in the case aside from Rashid Rauf exhibited behavior that in no way suggested they were preparing to launch mid-air suicide attacks on jumbo jets. Far from preparing his last will and testament, psyching himself up for his imminent death or acquiring the necessary materials to conduct the operation, Tayib Rauf was caught on CCTV hours before the launch of the plot doing something far more mundane - he was buying cakes for his father's confectionary business.

 

Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray slammed the so-called foiled plot story as "propaganda" on behalf of Bush and Blair who yearn for a "new 9/11" to reinvigorate their flagging support base.

 

"None of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None had bought a plane ticket. Many did not even have passports, which given the efficiency of the UK Passport Agency would mean they couldn't be a plane bomber for quite some time," said Murray.

 

Sources suggest that insider speculators with informants inside the British intelligence apparatus took advantage of their foreknowledge of the announcement of the foiled terror plot to place put options on airline stocks, reaping the benefits of their subsequent fall. Airline stocks dropped as much as 28 per cent during morning trading following the announcement of the alleged liquid bomb plot.