Guardian journalist and professor, George Monbiot, author of "Heat" (2007) has exposed Chris Martin's vast greenhouse gas emissions, largely as a result of FLYING everywhere, frequently and often unecessarily, by private jet (and by owning and crashing a gas-guzzling BMW X5). See the Greenwash page at http://www.turnuptheheat.org - a site dedicated to exploring the issues raised in the book. Before you ask, Monbiot is not a subscriber to junk science, nor is he out to get particular individuals. He is an environmental campaigner.

 

I call on all readers to lobby Chis for more environmentally appropriate modes of travel, and a little less hypocrisy in his support of good causes. A LearJet, for goodness sake, at a time when the while world is looking to unified action on climate change, and alternatives.

What is this??

 

:stunned:

More, on this here:

 

http://www.turnuptheheat.org/?page_id=12

 

:thinking:

sad, but true... :shifty:

Chris Martin might be a major contributor in terms of the average human, but Betty here is at least 10 times worst

 

Chris Martin might be a major contributor in terms of the average human, but Betty here is at least 10 times worst

 

 

What a load of bull!:rolleyes:

Yeah. Kill the cows. O.o

And Chris goes flying at the speed of sound...

And Chris goes flying at the speed of sound...

 

Nah! It's all Talk....................... :rolleyes:

Yeah. Kill the cows. O.o

 

AND MAKE BURGERS!!!!!!!!!

It is a pretty serious issue. As Monbiot says, flying has some terrible impacts (so do cows, but that's for another discussion). Flying to start and end a tour across the Atlantic may be hard to avoid, but what about the unecessary flying in-country and back home on a weekly basis, using thousands of gallons of fuel for a jet with a small number of people in it? And what is wrong with a tour bus?

Justice for oppressed people should, I assure you, include respect for their vulnerability to clmate change, which weshoudl not be exacerbating in the West by our actions.

Make your feelings known; boycott Coldplay gigs; lobby.

I think that... we aren't better than him.

 

We're using computers, electricity, those of us who have a car use gas or diesel, if you have a bike, the way it's been made used a lot of energy.

Some clothes are made with petroleum, and even of we recycle some things of what we use, there will be always pollution.

 

I think it's a bit too easy to blame only one person, when you could blame more then a million of us. You could even blame everyone.

If I had to blame someone, I'd blame myself first. But I'd know that the others wouldn't be better than me.

 

This is my opinion.

 

[btw, we already had this kind of information in the past.So, I'm not stunned at all]

Yes, blame Chris Martin for all of this because it's all his fault.

 

Nevermind that there are already over a million airlines going back and forth every single day all over the planet. Nope, it's all Chris Martin's fault. Also, nevermind those gass guzzling SUVs and Hummers that people drive everywhere. .........Just Chris Martin!

 

I'm so sick of people having problems with celebrities when they try to stand for something good. People always try to cut down their credibility. No one is perfect and it's pretty much impossible for someone like Chris to make it around the world without using a modern peice of technology called an airplane. Chris pushing for fair trade doesn't mean he has to be a perfect human being in every other aspect of his life.

 

Gettoutt....

He's missing the point that global warming isn't real :thinking:

Guardian journalist and professor, George Monbiot, author of "Heat" (2007) has exposed Chris Martin's vast greenhouse gas emissions, largely as a result of FLYING everywhere

Yes, Chris is killing everyone's babies by not taking the bus to Equador or wherever they happen to be playing. Also he didn't 'expose' anything. It's perfectly evident that someone who flies causes the emission of various gasses. Even journalists.

 

I call on all readers to lobby Chis for more environmentally appropriate modes of travel,

:rolleyes:

 

Nevaehdreamz put it all much better.

how silly

while i do think that chris could cut down on flying a bit so much, i also think that this is just too much. everyone does stuff like this every day. just because he's famous and would like to have a healthy enviroment doesnt mean that because he drives an suv (and the BMW X5 isnt as much of a gas guzzler as some other cars, as far as i know) and is a frequent flier doesnt make him any less of a person or any less credible. i think EVERYONE should make more of an effort to change the greenhouse gas emissions, not just chris. and just because he's in the public eye doesnt mean he deserves to have everything poked at.

I agree, we should do something to change the greenhouse gas emissions, we should invest in nuclear power stations.

Some of you guys are missing the point. Whether you are famous or not, flying unnecessarily is not cool. Thsi is not an atack on celebs.

It is rapidly becoing a social justice issue, just like fair trade and other campaigns that Coldplay support. In other words; fly a lot and your net contribution to human misery, in the shape of increased global CO2, is increased. It translates directly into net risk of the West Antarctic ice sheet melting (in which case many of us are dead), and the already-apparent temperature changes and sea level changes that adversely affect (mainly) poor people in developing countries.

After raising this issue for the first time in 'Heat", Monbiot appeared in a videoconference to Melbourne from his home in the UK. Yes, we consumed electricity to make this presentation, but a millionth of the emissions were spent compared to bringing him here by plane. His point: this is a global crisis we can combat. But if we don't reduce net emissions of CO2 to zero by c.2030, we are going to see untold changes, almost all of them negative. Here is the science paper that currently has the world buzzing - and very, very seriously worried. Hansen et al predict once the ice starts melting it will do so exponentially. Many estuaries, tropical islands, and most of the major cities would be well underwater by the end of this century. Carbon rationing for all of us will be a reality within 10-15 years. Thus if you fly, you may not be able to heat your home for a couple of years, as equitable compensation. Welcome to the brave new world.

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007_Hansen_etal_2.pdf

And for the person who considers none of this proven: read this article, and if you don't understand it, find someone who can. Peer - reviewed papers have become the only reliable source (certainly not webpages produced by thinktanks, like those that reckon CO2 must be good because plants need it). This is because all the information therein is rigorously checked by others.

it's hard to accept for a coldplay forum that chris martin is not a god

Oh not this again.

 

Chris uses a private jet. Though, I wouldn't call him a major contributor to climate change. I think nature is more to blame... actually... :laugh3:

Some of you guys are missing the point. Whether you are famous or not, flying unnecessarily is not cool. Thsi is not an atack on celebs.

It is rapidly becoing a social justice issue, just like fair trade and other campaigns that Coldplay support. In other words; fly a lot and your net contribution to human misery, in the shape of increased global CO2, is increased. It translates directly into net risk of the West Antarctic ice sheet melting (in which case many of us are dead), and the already-apparent temperature changes and sea level changes that adversely affect (mainly) poor people in developing countries.

After raising this issue for the first time in 'Heat", Monbiot appeared in a videoconference to Melbourne from his home in the UK. Yes, we consumed electricity to make this presentation, but a millionth of the emissions were spent compared to bringing him here by plane. His point: this is a global crisis we can combat. But if we don't reduce net emissions of CO2 to zero by c.2030, we are going to see untold changes, almost all of them negative. Here is the science paper that currently has the world buzzing - and very, very seriously worried. Hansen et al predict once the ice starts melting it will do so exponentially. Many estuaries, tropical islands, and most of the major cities would be well underwater by the end of this century. Carbon rationing for all of us will be a reality within 10-15 years. Thus if you fly, you may not be able to heat your home for a couple of years, as equitable compensation. Welcome to the brave new world.

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007_Hansen_etal_2.pdf

And for the person who considers none of this proven: read this article, and if you don't understand it, find someone who can. Peer - reviewed papers have become the only reliable source (certainly not webpages produced by thinktanks, like those that reckon CO2 must be good because plants need it). This is because all the information therein is rigorously checked by others.

 

Is "SP" short for Spammer??:rolleyes:

The fact that humans majorly contribute to climate change is contested itself.

 

http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/climatechange.pdf

 

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/mg18524861.400

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/climate-05p.html

 

So, it would be hard to say Chris Martin is a major contributor to climate change.

 

And if you're mad about flying in general, why complain about it here? Chris is only one person that uses a private jets--thousands of people (celebs, politicians) do--do you post on their forums too? :rolleyes:

i hear what SP's saying, and it would be great if Mr Martin would not "unecessarily" use his private jet, but everybody's got to be somewhere, and he'd still be using some mode of transportation that would emit gases that are harmful to the environment, unless he walked, in which case i think he'd be smart enough to do if that were possible, but he's obviously using the jet because he needs to get somewhere fast - i mean, that's mainly why people take planes anyway. maybe alternative fuels might be the answer until some genius can come up with alternative modes of transportation that are just as time efficient as planes...in the meantime, let's not hate on Chris martin or SP :) Maybe SP could bring his concern for the environment to Chris Martin - CM seems like a conscientious person and would not simply brush this issue off

The way people are talking about Chris and private jets sounds like he uses one all the time! He doesn't OWN one! The whole band hired one for part of their tour last year... that doesn't mean he flies like that all the time :laugh3:

 

And just for the record, in London they also own a Prius - the hybrid car - so maybe he's not always quite the big bad environmental ogre as he's being painted out to be!

 

Whilst I do believe strongly that everyone should be making an effort to cut down on emissions, I don't think singling out and criticising indviduals is the best way to educate or encourage people to make lifestyle changes. In fact, I think it just removes from the important points that the author is trying to get accross.

 

All I see when I read this type of article is a bunch of celebrity names being thrown in to hype up an issue that really has nothing to do with celebrity at all. I'd rather just get the facts, not a personal hit-list of who the author doesn't like based on what they've read in tabloids.