Totally disagree, and I LOVE the Talk video!

 

Stop bitching people. Don't pass judgment until you hear this album. Then you can bitch (Or eat your words) all you want.

 

 

Amen. :)

The length of the album doesn't matter. Did you ever stop to think that Parachutes is fourty one minuets long and it took almost as long to record? And what is their best album? Parachutes.

 

Parachutes was 52:16 minutes long.

I agree a little, but I think low76 is exaggerating a bit.

 

Could any of you tell me you can do any better then them?

Could you handle being internationaly famous and photographed every living second?

Could any of you write and record up to 12 songs, and then tour for a year and a half?

 

Yes, they have changed, quite a bit, but they are still Coldplay, still the same four British lads with a gift for music, and a great sense of humour.

 

Coldplay haven't lost their fans, their fans are just getting bored.

 

They have such a tough life. All that money, fame, accolades, and perks they get are such a hardship! Gimme a break. They are a band who wanted to make it big and they did and now they have become complacent and bit arrogant. Face the facts. Im not saying all hope is lost but I just dont like the direction they are going in.

Everybody seems to be avoiding the main point of this post which is the 42 minute length of the new album. Does anyone else here agree that releasing an album that is 42 minutes long is ridiculous? I know we are all fans and we try and give the band the benefit of the doubt but but lets be realistic here. Its an absolute joke that in three years all they can give the fans is 42 minutes of new music. Instead of touring all over the universe and doing 1000 interviews maybe they should reserve some time to actually record some music. . I know bands have to tour in support of new albums but they milked every last drop out of X&Y and dont tell me they didnt. They need to record some music that is different from what they have done in the past. I dont want to hear retrends of their old music like they did in the last album.

 

BTW please do not compare Coldplay to Radiohead in your replies. Thanks.

Talk video embarrassing?

 

Yes.

 

X&Y not very good?

 

Almost, I think. 3-4 'good' tracks. (SOS, White Shadows, Square One, most of Low) Still not gold though.

Some forgettable ones and a few terrible ones = (Twisted Logic, A Message, Fix You - makes me want to puke up) It's just bad decisions in the writing. I could have told them what to do for gods sake!

 

Length of the new album?

 

Not a problem really. 42 mins is ok.

 

 

I could make a better album than X&Y (oh yes, I mean that). There are some songs on there that I agree are good but as an album goes.....not up to their early standards.

 

 

 

New one might be alot better - from some of the coldplay.com messages it SEEMS as if they are going in a direction I will like......away from X&Y.

Parachutes was 52:16 minutes long.

 

According to my iTunes it's 41.7 minuets long. Weird.

lmao. this is pretty amusing. its not like x&y was complete shit or rubbish. it wasnt their best, you cant expect them to make 3 albums, with each successive one being that much better than its predecessors. x&y would have been a smash for any other band. lets just wait for this 4th album, it might be their best, it might not, but it sure beats the heck out of the rest of the music industry. we coldplay fans have such highstandards (thanks no less to coldplay themselves)

I agree with you, no one is perfect, yes X & Y was not another AROBTTH, give them time, they wil recover, it's impossible that someone always do things well. This is a rule, look at soccer players or baseball players, look at other bands, Nobody is perfect. And X & Y is better than parachutes (for me), it is different and more colorful or how can I explain, it's less slow.All the songs are good, not enough though, and yes a message, till kingdome come (lyrics well but music...) and twisted logic do suck. But the others (even tehe hardest part) are fine for me, some of them are very good. Do you want coldplay to always sound the same? Speak until LP4 is released about Disappointment.

Everybody seems to be avoiding the main point of this post which is the 42 minute length of the new album. Does anyone else here agree that releasing an album that is 42 minutes long is ridiculous?

 

No. It's not ridiculous, because like I said before, Parachutes was about the same length. There is nothing wrong with a short album and it's stupid to think that there has to be a certain time limit to an album. What is ridiculous is to presume that a certain number of songs has to be recorded in a certain amount of time. Did you ever stop to think that they recorded dozens of songs within these month but only deemed a handful worthy? Shouldn't that be a good thing? I mean... Sgt. Pepper's (39 mins), Revolver (32 mins), Pet Sounds (40 mins), Amnesiac (43 mins). What the hell man? What are you basing your opinions off? How can you get so outraged over something so insignificant?

 

And, as I said, acording to my iTunes, Parachutes is 41.7 mins.

 

I mean, come on man... think of X&Y. They've never been in the studio longer than for X&Y and it was an hour of rehashed bombast.

 

I know we are all fans and we try and give the band the benefit of the doubt but but lets be realistic here. Its an absolute joke that in three years all they can give the fans is 42 minutes of new music. Instead of touring all over the universe and doing 1000 interviews maybe they should reserve some time to actually record some music. . I know bands have to tour in support of new albums but they milked every last drop out of X&Y and dont tell me they didnt.

 

The time spent touring is irrelevant. Sigur Rós spent a longer time touring and promoting, but you don't see anyone bitching about that do you? (I mean... technically, with Hiema, it's like they're still promoting Takk) The tour period of a band's career is when the fans are just looking forward to seeing their favorite band in the media and anticipating seeing them at least once, if not more. It's essential. That's actually the time where it's most about the fans. That's why bands do it.

 

They need to record some music that is different from what they have done in the past. I dont want to hear retrends of their old music like they did in the last album.

 

Exactly. I agree. And from what I hear, they're going in a new direction, but what does that have to do with a 42 minuet long record?

 

BTW please do not compare Coldplay to Radiohead in your replies. Thanks.

 

I wasn't comparing, I was using an example. You can't dismiss the fact that Radiohead did take four years (Give or take) to record a 42 minuet record and you're bitching that Coldplay's been in the studio for a little under nine months and giving us an album that's the same length. The comparisons are unavoidable and can't simply dismiss it because it negates your petty argument.

 

And, I think you're forgetting that they are adding two songs to the original track list anyway... putting the album at probably 50 mins. So you're ridiculous argument is unfounded anyway.

Wow! O, ye of little faith :) What's with everyone dissing X&Y so harshly and saying things like, "This 4th album is going to make it or break it for me" ... ouch. Hasn't Coldplay proven it enough by now that's they're great songwriters and that they will more than likely continue to be? Don't get me wrong --- X&Y was my least favorite of the 3 albums -- but it still had some great tracks on it. I think it was a combination of wrong circumstances that made that album more lackluster than the previous two .... situations like the fact that they admitted themselves in interviews that why X&Y took so long was because they started to look at it like going to the "office" every day to record, not really jamming together that much, not having Phil with them, probably getting a bit sick of each other from so many years of touring, etc etc. I'm sure that happens to every band. They're human.

 

But come on! Coldplay has written so many fantastic songs. Like others have said...X&Y was a bit flat, but compared to 99% of the shit that comes out in the music industry today, it was at least LISTENABLE for me. Do you know how rare that is to find in an artist nowadays?

 

Some of my favorite tracks from them are b-sides that never got released, and in my opinion, were always a bit "edgier" than some of their a-sides. (Murder, Animals, 1.36, I Ran Away), etc. I'll never know why they never released those above songs, because they're so freaking brilliant, and I was dissapointed they didn't take the more experimental path during X&Y that I was hoping they would when I heard those AROBTTH b-sides. I have a feeling it was probably due to label executives convincing them to play the safe route and go for the big, epic band thing and use the safer material -- go against the uniqueness that founded Coldplay -- and conform. It was too much and I think it was painfully evident to Chris Martin and the rest of the bandmates that they should have listened to original instincts when Chris said at that one awards show about how they're were going to dissapear for a while because they knew everyone was getting sick of the huge promotion/hype X&Y was getting.

 

Anyway --- even though I wish X&Y would have been a stronger record it was still 10x more enjoyable than half the other crap I hear from the music biz today. I really just have this faith instilled in me that I just....know....this 4th album is going to be awesome. I really think Chris has finally gotten comfortable in his own skin and is going to listen to his instinct rather than trying to become the new Bono and be what the label execs tell him to be. I bet the spark has been refreshed in Coldplay, especially getting to work with such a huge force as Brian Eno (let's not forget this is the guy who made U2 unforgettable!) ....and I'm sure Eno is pushing them to the experimental levels that they always deserved to go to. I really believe Prospekt's words that this will be "the album they'll be remembered by". I can't wait! :)

The difference is, Coldplay has talent. Lots of it. we really can't put them in the same category as michael jackson and mariah carey (ok she can sing).

Sure they're not perfect. And sure X&Y wasn't their best...but it was a heck of alot better than basically anything else released by anyone else at that time.

 

no reason to lose faith.

ok sorry its late and i probably should sleep now.

AGREED! Coldplay has SO much more talent that so many other 'artists' out there these days. I, personally, loved X&Y as much as Parachutes and AROBTTH, and Im sure this new album will be just as good.

1. Lets not judge by the # of songs

2. Lets not judge especially because we havent heard any of it yet

 

Coldplay has 4 brilliant singers & songwriters, Im sure all of their albums will be amazing. I honestly don't understand the hate for X&Y??? Its brilliant as well as the first 2

:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky: BORING reading all this crap, god knows why you people are defending COLDLPLAY, they really have'nt been out and about for ages and i really don't think they give a crap about thier fans. hence they should get back in touch with reality !!!!!!!!!!! am i right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky: BORING reading all this crap, god knows why you people are defending COLDLPLAY, they really have'nt been out and about for ages and i really don't think they give a crap about thier fans. hence they should get back in touch with reality !!!!!!!!!!! am i right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

 

why shouldn't i defend coldplay? they're pretty much my favorite band, next to the beatles, and i think it's unfair that they get criticized so heavily on an album that anyone else would have released and would have probably gotten praised for. i understand that you're probably being half-sarcastic (in note of all your smileys there haha) but i just get tired of reading people like pitchforkmedia.com giving all of coldplay's albums a 5 out of a 10 rating, then meanwhile they're give 9 out of a 10 rating to some indie artist who thinks he's the next kurt cobain because he's half-learned how to play a guitar last year and now thinks mumbling incoherent, non-connected, forgettable melodies over some typical chord progressions is considered "epic" and "avant garde".

 

music is in a horrible state these days. i'm sorry to say it, i know i sound like a music snob, but it's true. i don't like hip hop (personal taste), and 99% of indie music is absolute garbage created by people who don't know a single clue about attractive melodies or creativity. the saddest part is we have a bunch of saps (music journalists) who commend these horrible indie artists as being "groundbreaking" due to the sheer fact that only a small minority wants to listen to their music. there's a difference between being "lo-fi" or your music just simply sucking too much to break a certain level of popularity. a lot of indie music falls in this latter category.

 

the thing that irritates me is the fact that these music journalists, they act like they really know what they're talking about. do they really have a clue? i mean, you're a journalist, so you go to college to be an english/journalist major, right? so you're well-qualified, right? if you want to become a music journalist i think it should be required they minor in music as well just so they know the type of hard work it really takes to create a great song (as coldplay does) as opposed to flinging out songs no one will ever remember by next year once the hype wears off (pretty much everything praised at pitchfork).

 

Ok, sorry, I went off on a tangent there.

 

And also, I do think Coldplay care for their fans. Why wouldn't they? They've been posting new updates, videos, pictures, etc, on their website almost weekly, which is really awesome to see all these cool videos about where & how they played their first gig, etc etc. It's fun for me to see all that history about them. And it shows they care. I realize they're not the ones physically updating the site, however, they're obviously sitting down to do these interviews, writings, and such that are featured on the site weekly, so obviously they're getting involved with connecting to their fanbase.

why shouldn't i defend coldplay? they're pretty much my favorite band, next to the beatles, and i think it's unfair that they get criticized so heavily on an album that anyone else would have released and would have probably gotten praised for. i understand that you're probably being half-sarcastic (in note of all your smileys there haha) but i just get tired of reading people like pitchforkmedia.com giving all of coldplay's albums a 5 out of a 10 rating, then meanwhile they're give 9 out of a 10 rating to some indie artist who thinks he's the next kurt cobain because he's half-learned how to play a guitar last year and now thinks mumbling incoherent, non-connected, forgettable melodies over some typical chord progressions is considered "epic" and "avant garde".

 

I think your main issue here is that Coldplay are, as you put it, yourfavorite band. Why do you care what Pitchfork say? After all, its only their opinion. If you don't like it just ignore it.

 

Also, although I'm not too clued up into writing reviews, I would expect that a band's previous work would have to be taken into consideration when reviewing their new album. A band may produce 3 consecutive albums full of great content but if they haven't progressed from their debut how could a reviewer be justified in giving all 10s (or whatever) to all those albums? See Sigur Ros perhaps?

 

As for the person who brought up the "how would you handle being so famous" please refer to this excruciating video on Youtube with that guy defending Britney.

Um here --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

Give it a rest people. The amount of hate on this site lately is ridiculous - "they have changed as people, they do not care about their fans, I could write a much better album than X&Y (go do it then!), I hate this band now, if Album 4 sucks I will hate Coldplay forever, they should not be affected by the media and the paparazzi" - what planet do some of you live on.

"Give it a rest people. The amount of hate on this site lately is ridiculous"......."I could write a much better album than X&Y (go do it then!)".

 

But I actually could write a better album.

But Iactually could write a better album.

 

That's what they all say............................... :rolleyes:

According to my iTunes it's 41.7 minuets long. Weird.

 

You were done! Ask for a refund!!:P

Give it a rest people. The amount of hate on this site lately is ridiculous - "they have changed as people, they do not care about their fans, I could write a much better album than X&Y (go do it then!), I hate this band now, if Album 4 sucks I will hate Coldplay forever, they should not be affected by the media and the paparazzi" - what planet do some of you live on.

 

I couldn't agree more.;)

Well, whatever....I could write I better album.

 

Most people who say they could actually couldn't - you are right - but I could....

 

....and probably will.

Stop bitching people. Don't pass judgment until you hear this album. Then you can bitch (Or eat your words) all you want.

 

agreed. :nice:

 

 

there are more important things in life to worry about anyway, so come ooon! :rolleyes: most of this is so ridiculous, really.

Well, whatever....I could write I better album.

 

Most people who say they could actually couldn't - you are right - but I could....

 

....and probably will.

 

That's one helluva bold statement. Come back when you've finished it and we can all pass judgement.:rolleyes:

agreed. :nice:

 

 

there are more important things in life to worry about anyway, so come ooon! :rolleyes: most of this is so ridiculous, really.

 

Exactly. Some people care a scary amount about the band members. Sure...I don't dislike them - not at all - and I find them to be quite funny and normal in interviews.

 

I just want to hear some good music.....and hopefully Coldplay might release a good one next year.

We live in a beautiful world, yeah we do, yeah we do.

:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:WHAT A JOKE, no one writes a great album, because as soon as someone says that thiers is totally awesome, someone better comes along and so on and so on, music is always revolving all the time, and artists are always coming along bigger and better and maybe COLDPLAY have had their 15mins of fame now, and its someone elses turn to be the most awesome band or singer out there, get real people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure if your a dedicated COLDPLAY fan they will always hold a special spot in your heart:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D