Black Rose Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 So it gets turned on, on Wednesday, so if anybody worried about it creating a black hole destroying earth and all life? It's impressive at what science can hopefully prove that Higgs exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cadet Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Heh, I was just reading something about that a second ago... http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/09/05/lhc-safety.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 Sorry, I have to post this <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Who said scientists are boring :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cadet Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Who said scientists are boring :lol: :laugh3: Not me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck kottke Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I still hold fast to the belief that Switzerland will be turned into Swiss Cheese by this thing! (& I secretly suspect they've been using it all the time to create perfect Swiss Cheese, by causing the gas molecules to coalesce around particles that have arrived through quantum-mechanical tunneling:laugh3:) So, it's really just a bigger op, kinda the mother-lode of colliders.:P Higgs-Boson matter-antimatter pairs? Well, I'm betting that it works, but why isn't there more anti-matter already out there? Hmm...?:thinking: Could be the ultimate driver in the Universe is the random chance that every big-bang is like a bread mix; ingredients may vary. Perhaps anti-matter particles are less stable than matter particles, and don't stick together well.. Perfect symmetry is an illusion - this Universe is as asymmetrical as the number 42.:inquisitive: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunForTheHills Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Ah, i've been waiting for news on this! (erm, not that I've been counting the days or anything, but still... :uhoh:) But yes, it should be interesting to see what happens that day. Although, I don't think the government would have allowed them to try anything that could mean even quite a small chance of creating something like a black hole that would eradicate human civilization in less than a second. Or would they? :P I don't know, I'm sure they've done their calculations. I'm just eager to see what they find with this thing :D [geeky] *Crosses fingers for undeniable proof of Higgs Boson* [/geeky] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 I still hold fast to the belief that Switzerland will be turned into Swiss Cheese by this thing! (& I secretly suspect they've been using it all the time to create perfect Swiss Cheese, by causing the gas molecules to coalesce around particles that have arrived through quantum-mechanical tunneling:laugh3:) So, it's really just a bigger op, kinda the mother-lode of colliders.:P Higgs-Boson matter-antimatter pairs? Well, I'm betting that it works, but why isn't there more anti-matter already out there? Hmm...?:thinking: Could be the ultimate driver in the Universe is the random chance that every big-bang is like a bread mix; ingredients may vary. Perhaps anti-matter particles are less stable than matter particles, and don't stick together well.. Perfect symmetry is an illusion - this Universe is as asymmetrical as the number 42.:inquisitive: If Switzerland will be turned to Swiss Cheese, what will france be turned into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnspieler1012 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 If Switzerland will be turned to Swiss Cheese, what will france be turned into? Brie of course!!! or french fries....whichever's funnier :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApproximatelyInfinite Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 my friend actually IMed me yesterday really concerned about this. i found that hilarious. he's been acting quite atypical lately anyway, but this was just hysterical. maybe i should be more worried than i am, but i'm also a huge space nerd, so i find this whole thing incredibly exciting. and even if it does eat the earth...i'll be sleeping at the time, since they're running it around 3:30 AM my time, and i think that's the best way to go. AND i won't have to go to college anymore! :dance: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indanomati Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Never mind. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I find those so called "physicians" who proclaim the end of the world caused by the collision-experiments of the LHC soo hilarious and retarded :laugh3: it's one thing if normal people are afraid of that, I can totally understand that, because it sounds so huge and dangerous - but it's another if there are scientist, who actually must've understood the physics behind that (and it's just a few simple formulas to prove that nothings gonna happen), telling the media "OMFG THE WORLDS GUNNA IMPLODE!!!11" and making the normal folks even more afraid -.- nonetheless I expect some very nice results of the experiments :D Would be interesting if the Higgs-boson really exists! It's a quite tricky theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Genuine question here... Could the results of this experiment prove or disprove the existence of God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "the higgs-boson is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promply vanishes in a puff of logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indanomati Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I find those so called "physicians" who proclaim the end of the world caused by the collision-experiments of the LHC soo hilarious and retarded :laugh3: it's one thing if normal people are afraid of that, I can totally understand that, because it sounds so huge and dangerous - but it's another if there are scientist, who actually must've understood the physics behind that (and it's just a few simple formulas to prove that nothings gonna happen), telling the media "OMFG THE WORLDS GUNNA IMPLODE!!!11" and making the normal folks even more afraid -.- nonetheless I expect some very nice results of the experiments :D Would be interesting if the Higgs-boson really exists! It's a quite tricky theory Can't friggin wait for the results! Ahh! :wideeyed::dance: And I agree about those physicians hehe. Just too silly to even consider, the experiment causing the end of the world that is. ---- Some info from CERN's site: The Large Hadron Collider Our understanding of the Universe is about to change... The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is a gigantic scientific instrument near Geneva, where it spans the border between Switzerland and France about 100 m underground. It is a particle accelerator used by physicists to study the smallest known particles – the fundamental building blocks of all things. It will revolutionise our understanding, from the minuscule world deep within atoms to the vastness of the Universe. Two beams of subatomic particles called 'hadrons' – either protons or lead ions – will travel in opposite directions inside the circular accelerator, gaining energy with every lap. Physicists will use the LHC to recreate the conditions just after the Big Bang, by colliding the two beams head-on at very high energy. Teams of physicists from around the world will analyse the particles created in the collisions using special detectors in a number of experiments dedicated to the LHC. There are many theories as to what will result from these collisions, but what's for sure is that a brave new world of physics will emerge from the new accelerator, as knowledge in particle physics goes on to describe the workings of the Universe. For decades, the Standard Model of particle physics has served physicists well as a means of understanding the fundamental laws of Nature, but it does not tell the whole story. Only experimental data using the higher energies reached by the LHC can push knowledge forward, challenging those who seek confirmation of established knowledge, and those who dare to dream beyond the paradigm. How the LHC works The LHC, the world’s largest and most powerful particle accelerator, is the latest addition to CERN’s accelerator complex. It mainly consists of a 27 km ring of superconducting magnets with a number of accelerating structures to boost the energy of the particles along the way. Inside the accelerator, two beams of particles travel at close to the speed of light with very high energies before colliding with one another. The beams travel in opposite directions in separate beam pipes – two tubes kept at ultrahigh vacuum. They are guided around the accelerator ring by a strong magnetic field, achieved using superconducting electromagnets. These are built from coils of special electric cable that operates in a superconducting state, efficiently conducting electricity without resistance or loss of energy. This requires chilling the magnets to about ‑271°C – a temperature colder than outer space! For this reason, much of the accelerator is connected to a distribution system of liquid helium, which cools the magnets, as well as to other supply services. Thousands of magnets of different varieties and sizes are used to direct the beams around the accelerator. These include 1232 dipole magnets of 15 m length which are used to bend the beams, and 392 quadrupole magnets, each 5–7 m long, to focus the beams. Just prior to collision, another type of magnet is used to 'squeeze' the particles closer together to increase the chances of collisions. The particles are so tiny that the task of making them collide is akin to firing needles from two positions 10 km apart with such precision that they meet halfway! All the controls for the accelerator, its services and technical infrastructure are housed under one roof at the CERN Control Centre. From here, the beams inside the LHC will be made to collide at four locations around the accelerator ring, corresponding to the positions of the particle detectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 Genuine question here... Could the results of this experiment prove or disprove the existence of God? God exists Just like Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 Anyway, we won't find out any results until at least October when they start crashing stuff together, tomorrow is a mere test, testing the beams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indanomati Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yep, read that. And actually heard that it's been running for a while, in tests, too. So not sure what is exactly happening tomorrow that is of in any difference. Hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 Tomorrow will be the first time it will be tested as one whole machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indanomati Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Ah, I see now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 and tomorrow is the day it all ends... *coughcough* :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indanomati Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hehe, yep. Can't wait too! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 I shall be in my rocket ship out in space :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 Want to come to my evil moon base which is based on the moon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I think you won't be safe there if a black hole sucks in even the whole earth ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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