Damn :(

I'd recommend you to escape into a parallel-universe :uhoh:

I'd recommend you to escape into a parallel-universe :uhoh:

 

now will you stop that, or i'll get that terrible headache again!! :shifty:

 

:laugh3:

 

 

*shakes head and walks out of thread* ;P

wait! we're not even talking about the M-Theory, yet! :cheesy:

but you said that... that... you know... the thing! about the universe! and next you'll come out with the 11 dimensions! :bigcry:

yeah... the M-Theory assumes 11 dimensions, in fact ;D

*makes annoyed yoshi-noise*

 

:bomb:

 

;P

lol ;D

 

 

well back to topic... so... protons colliding with a speed of 0,999999991·c ... pretty exciting, yeah... ;D

Sorry, I have to post this

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM

 

Who said scientists are boring :lol:

Just saw this! Hahaha, brilliant! :lol:

So what are they actually going to find out with this experiment?...It better reveal something like TIME TRAVEL considering the risks of the whole thing.

google is celebrating it

 

and Stephen Hawking has a message for you all ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AG5RPOCjA

CERN scientists switch on the Big Bang machine

Mark Henderson, Science Editor, in Geneva

 

(Martial Trezzini/EPA)

The magnet core of the Large Hadron Collider

 

 

The biggest and most expensive civilian experiment in the history of science is finally underway.

 

At 9.25am UK time, the control room at the CERN laboratory erupted into cheers and applause as a pair of dots on a computer screen showed that a beam of particles had successfully completed its first lap of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the £3.6 billion “Big Bang machine” that will open a new window on the Universe.

 

It took less than an hour to guide the stream of particles around its inaugural circuit: the first protons had been fired into the 27km ring at 8.32am.

 

“Thank you, thank you everyone,” said Lyn Evans, project leader of the LHC, as the beam finished its first lap.

 

Almost an hour earlier, scientists endured an anxious 48-second wait between the generation of the first pulse of protons, and a tiny flash of light on a screen that showed the beam had made it around the first 3km of the ring.

 

The LHC team then steered the beam of protons around the entire circuit, stopping it at points along the way to correct their aim. By 8.55am, the beam was half way around, passing through the first four of the atom-smasher’s eight sectors.

 

“Wow!” Dr Evans exclaimed, as it emerged that the beam had completed its first half-lap just 23 minutes after the insertion process began.

 

“The beam is now half way around the LHC, and it’s been through two experiments, ALICE and CMS. CMS has seen some beautiful tracks. We’ve now stopped the beam and we’re making some corrections, and then we’ll move around octant by octant. We’ve got four more to do. At the rate we’re going, within an hour we’ll have the beam all around the LHC.”

 

Beam-stoppers - absorbing blocks with the diameter of a 50p piece - were being used to prevent the beam from passing too far along the vacuum tube, before scientists think they have pointed it correctly. These were being progressively removed, until protons could circulate.

 

The LHC’s clockwise beam has been inserted first, to be followed by the anti-clockwise beam with which it will eventually collide to recreate the conditions of the Big Bang. Scientists will also attempt to “capture” the beam, so that it fires in neat 2mm pulses.

 

Lyn Evans, the LHC project leader, started the process at 9.15 with the words: “Let’s get started, everybody.”

 

He said: “We have a beam already at the entrance to the LHC, and in a few minutes we’ll remove the absorber block the beam is hitting, and start taking it around octant-by-octant. We’ll then make any adjustments we need.”

 

The first beam process took 12 hours when the LHC’s predecessor, the Large Electron-Positron Collider, was switched on. Dr Evans said: “How long it’ll take I don’t know. I hope the LHC will be much faster.” It turned out to be much, much faster, taking just 53 minutes.

 

Robert Aymar, director of Cern, said the day brought a “mixture of pleasure and hope,” in an address to the control room staff immediately before the switch-on.

 

“Today is a big day for Cern and the LHC. Everything is ready for us to succeed. Bravo everyone, and good luck. It will go well, I’m sure. Thanks to everyone.”

 

There were some last-minute nerves as an electrical storm on Monday evening caused a loss of power to some of the cooling systems that keep the LHC’s superconducting magnets chilled to -271C. These had been restored by late last night, allowing the “first beam” day to begin on schedule.

awww, that google thing is cute! :lol:

 

i asked these two questions in the other thread in the lounge, but i thought i'd ask here too:

 

1. do we have an exact date when they're going to start colliding things? i want to at least watch the live 2003 DVD the night before :P

(nahh, i don't actually believe that anything will happen to the earth :D)

 

2: are all sorts of religious groups freaking out that the judgement day is upon us? i haven't heard anything, and i would imagine this is kind of their gig. unless the end of the world can't be man made...:rolleyes:. but seriously, i think they'd all start getting really vocal about it around now so everyone can get prepared and pack their suitcase for heaven and go to the top of a mountain or whatever they do. i don't mean this to be offensive; i'm just wondering because i would have expected to hear something, but maybe i'm naive.

Large Hadron Collider "Actually Worked"

Mason Inman

for National Geographic News

September 10, 2008

 

The world's largest atom smasher's first experiment went off today without a hitch, paving the way toward the recreation of post-big bang conditions.

 

The Large Hadron Collider fired a beam of protons inside a circular, 17-mile (27-kilometer) long tunnel underneath villages and cow pastures at the French-Swiss border.

 

Inside the control room, physicists and engineers cautiously shot the beam down part of the tunnel, stopping it before it went all the way around.

 

"Oh, we made it through!" one person cried as the beam made it through a further section of the tunnel.

 

One hour after starting up, on the first attempt to send the beam circling all the way around the tunnel, it completed the trip successfully—bringing raucous applause.

 

"First of all, I didn't believe it," said Verena Kain, a European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) engineer.

 

"I had to see it a second time, and I thought, Oh, wow, it actually worked!"

 

"Things can go wrong at any time, but luckily this morning everything went smoothly," said Lyn Evans of CERN, who oversaw the building of the accelerator.

 

Birth of the Universe

 

The collider "was first proposed more than 20 years ago," said Django Manglunki, an accelerator physicist at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), on Tuesday. "We've been preparing that beam for more than ten years."

 

"It's difficult to realize that the machine, at last, is starting now," he added. (See photos of the collider.)

 

By creating hundreds of thousands of head-on collisions each second, physicists hope to understand the fiery conditions of the universe a trillionth of a second after the big bang.

 

Another enigma that could be at least partially explained is dark matter, the invisible material thought to be the most common in the universe.

 

Very Big Staircase

 

In several months CERN's physicists plan to use two beams, each with 2,808 bunches of protons, each of which contains a hundred billion protons—positively charged particles found in the nuclei of atoms.

 

Out of each collision, a spray of energy and other assorted particles will form. Scientists will study which particles show up, how often, and exactly how they fly out of the collisions. (Learn more about atom smashers.)

 

But on Wednesday, CERN scientists will first try to thread a single bunch of two billion protons through the Large Hadron Collider (LHC).

 

"We will have a very low-intensity beam, so [in case of a problem] we can lose the beam without damaging the machine," Manglunki said.

 

Once the team gets the beam circulating all the way around the tunnel—which may happen in a couple of hours—the scientists will send in several bunches at a time.

 

Getting the first beam circulating, Manglunki said, is "one step in a very big staircase"—the long process of conceiving, designing, building, and finally running the experiment.

 

(See: "Broken Magnet Highlights Largest Collider's Engineering Challenges" [April 13, 2007].)

 

Although the physicists have done various tests on the machine already, "ultimately it's the beam that can tell you if everything is working," he added.

 

Later, they will attempt to get another beam of protons circulating through the tunnel in the opposite direction—a prelude to colliding the two beams.

 

Dark Matter Particle

 

In addition to spotting the Higgs boson, another early reward could be evidence of supersymmetry. The supersymmetry theory says that all the particles known today have much more massive—and as yet undetected—partners.

 

"There are strong reasons to believe that these new particles include the particle that makes up the cosmic dark matter that accounts for 80 percent of the matter in universe," said Michael Peskin, a particle physicist at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center in Menlo Park, California.

 

(Related: "Dark Matter Proof Found, Scientists Say" [August 22, 2006].)

 

The collisions could also create a zoo of new particles, experts say.

 

"If any of these theories are right, the LHC should be turning up the evidence for these particles by next summer," Peskin said.

 

But there could also be some big surprises.

 

"It might turn out to be like the 1950s, when we were discovering many new particles and had no clue about how they fit into a coherent picture," Peskin said.

 

"I hope it will turn out like that," he added. "This is what makes science fun."

 

No Cause for Alarm

 

Some people are worried that the experiments could also create unwelcome discoveries, such as particles and other exotic phenomena that could swallow up Earth or destroy the universe as we know it.

 

For instance, one possibility is that the collisions will pack matter together so tightly that it may collapse to form miniature black holes.

 

But reviews by both CERN physicists and independent researchers argue that, even if such black holes do form, there's no reason for alarm (watch video).

 

"Collisions just like those the [atom-smasher] will make have been produced by cosmic rays bombarding the Earth throughout its existence," said a statement from the American Physical Society.

 

The most energetic cosmic rays are particles that pack much more energy than those in the Large Hadron Collider—so much so that physicists still aren't sure how the most powerful cosmic rays get created. (See: "Black Holes Belch Universe's Most Energetic Particles" [November 8, 2007].)

 

Steve Giddings, a physicist at the University of California, Santa Barbara, is actually hoping miniature black holes do show up, along with other evidence supporting string theory—an unproven theory that describes subatomic particles as though they are tiny vibrating strings.

 

"It would be extremely exciting to see string properties directly. And that is possible if there are extra dimensions of space that are configured just the right way," Giddings said.

 

"[seeing] all of this would be the ultimate jackpot scenario."

What's all this about a large hardon?

^ you filthy swine!!! :laugh3:

Genuine question here...

 

Could the results of this experiment prove or disprove the existence of God?

 

No, its not figuring anything out about God or any info that disproves or proves him.

nature proves God's existence;)

Ok, so this hardon is how big?

Ok, so this hardon is how big?

 

...pfffsfttfs :laugh3:

 

HADRON!!

Sorry, sorry. I'll stop now.

If Switzerland will be turned to Swiss Cheese, what will france be turned into?

:laugh3: Good Question, David! France will actually be swallowed up by a giant irate wine grape, seeking revenge after all it's cousins have been stomped and their juiciness extracted all these years.:P You see, anti-particles come from the anti-universe, where normally friendly things can devour you whole, and ordinarily dangerous things could save your life. Naturally, if the tear between the universes becomes large enough, France could be saved from the grape by a particularly strong batch of German Sour-Kraut, if enough spin is put on the resulting Bosons..;)

are we all still here?

You'll be safe in England, Ian!:hat: Far enough from the epicenter of the tear, and you should be able to ward off the wine grape if it attempts to wallow across the channel. And if it decides to sneak in through the chunnel, just put a stopper in the other end, and you'll be saved from the serious wrath of grapes..:laugh3: Be Prepared. Always re-cork, if the end is near...

nothing's allowed through the chunnel at the moment, the authorities have it sealed :stunned: