Change the band name to beatles and everything will be excused:nice:

 

In this case,go screw yourself

I'm sorry but this just goes to show that when someone criticises Radiohead then RH fans just won't accept ANY criticism of any kind. And I saw someone say CM could never release a solo album? What BALLS! Some of Coldplay's most beautiful music has been Chris singing on his own. Just look at his Hardest Part performance on the tour he does.

 

This doesn't go to show anything. Your argument was poorly constructed and fairly unintelligent.

what an idiot.and music sales mean nothing

 

i love coldplay but radiohead are better and even chris martin would tell you that.

Chris would also say that Girls Aloud are better than Coldplay, though. Chris is clearly the wrong berson to ask when it comes to this kind of thing lol.

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why is thread on page 9?

:P

This doesn't go to show anything. Your argument was poorly constructed and fairly unintelligent.

 

Unintelligent even though you won't say what's unintelligent.

I'm sorry but this just goes to show that when someone criticises Radiohead then RH fans just won't accept ANY criticism of any kind. And I saw someone say CM could never release a solo album? What BALLS! Some of Coldplay's most beautiful music has been Chris singing on his own. Just look at his Hardest Part performance on the tour he does.

I have no problem with your criticism, I merely question your motives, you Miley-loving rabble-rouser. :P

the fact that you lack a solid argument dude, you are not bashing radiohead for the music, you could say it bores you or you don't like the style but no you said you hate them and that they haven't sold millionis of records, that's a stupid way of comparing music, specially because nowadays people like rubbish mainstream music

Sorry I made a mistake. Radiohead have sold 22million not 26million. Also I had Paranoid Android on my bloody ipod and if that's the best they've got then dear lord! Noel Gallagher who IS superior to Yorke in every way musically. He's got the balls to criticise Radiohead and so he should as they have to look up at Oasis. Also don't slag Gallagher off when he has written 2 of the greatest albums in music history. Yorke could only dream of writing a song as good as Don't Look Back In Anger and Live Forever. As Bono said Chris Martin is up there with the great melodists, Noel Gallagher, Paul McCartney, Ray Davis. He never said a thing about Yorke. He ain't perfect and nor are Radiohead.

Haven't listened to any of Radiohead's stuff at all since I watched their woeful performance at Glastonbury 1997. Perhaps I'm missing something, but after that dirge I really have never been bothered enough to find out.

oh my god, Oasis?

Thom Yorke has deeper lyrics, he's one of the best songwriters around, and his vocal range is superior to Gallagher's.

Besides, Oasis is just a simple beatle-wanna be britpop band. Let's do a comparison song to song and let's see who wins. Besides, Everyone consider OK Computer one of the best albums of the 90s.

Sorry I made a mistake. Radiohead have sold 22million not 26million. Also I had Paranoid Android on my bloody ipod and if that's the best they've got then dear lord! Noel Gallagher who IS superior to Yorke in every way musically. He's got the balls to criticise Radiohead and so he should as they have to look up at Oasis. Also don't slag Gallagher off when he has written 2 of the greatest albums in music history. Yorke could only dream of writing a song as good as Don't Look Back In Anger and Live Forever. As Bono said Chris Martin is up there with the great melodists, Noel Gallagher, Paul McCartney, Ray Davis. He never said a thing about Yorke. He ain't perfect and nor are Radiohead.

Oasis? You can't fool me. You think Hanna Montana is the greatest, don't you. :P

Unintelligent even though you won't say what's unintelligent.

 

If you'll read through this thread, you'll find plenty of people who have done just that.

 

Radiohead are far too pretentious for my liking and are so arrogant that they never seem to praise any other band despite the praise they get.

 

Not true. They praise artists. Just not as often as, say, Chris Martin. Radiohead simply aren't as radio--or tv--friendly, and aren't in the press as much. You wouldn't know about them praising fellow musicians because they're not "hollywood" as Chris Martin has become.

 

Also I'm not fooled like many reviewers into thinking Radiohead are intelligent

Something has to be wrong when many trained and well educated music critics like Radiohead and think they're intelligent, and you don't. Not to say that a critic's opinion is gold, but generally, they know more than you do.

 

Radiohead create crap sounding music that everyone thinks sounds good, only that they are forced into thinking it sounds good because if you say something against this band then you are deemed "not intelligent".

 

That is subjective. And I have never called anyone unintelligent for not "getting" Radiohead, and I've never known anyone to be forced into thinking they're great out of fear of being thought of as stupid. The people I think are unintelligent are people who make statements like this.

 

Thom Yorke is inferior to Chris Martin in every single way. The man can't even sing for God's sake! Why on earth are they not subject to criticism??

Again, that's subjective. But just because YOU don't like his voice, doesn't mean he can't sing. Chris Martin's got great respect for Thom Yorke, and has praised him many times.

 

If they were so good they would have sold hundreds of millions of albums now in their 16 year career. As it turns out they've only sold 26 million albums in that period. Coldplay have sold 47 million in 8 years.

 

This is where your argument gets ridiculous. Since WHEN do record sales equal talent? Coldplay are indeed a more accessible band. More people can like them because their music is less abstract and experimental. Their lyrics are more obvious and easier to relate to. They're very pretty to look at and seem wholesome. Chris Martin is married to a movie star. The love Coldplay gets is more superficial, because songs like "Clocks" and "Viva La Vida" are catchy tunes that a WIDE RANGE of audiences tend to like. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH SKILL LEVEL.

 

Oasis sold 20 million on one album alone. They've got 50 million in around the same period as Radiohead. Album sales tell a lot for rock bands.

 

just to reiterate, that is a flimsy argument and cannot, by itself, be a reason for one band to be considered crap.

 

The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, U2.... they've all sold them in their hundreds of millions, in The Beatles cases billions

 

Yeah. Well, they're the fucking Beatles, aren't they?

 

Coldplay's music is much more loved than Radiohead's.

 

Flawed statement. Because, as I stated before, Coldplay's music is more accessible. They're celebrity, tabloid, radio, and grammy friendly. Just because a band is loved by more people, doesn't make them a better band, or even mean they are "more loved".

 

Twat.

Radiohead's Albums:

Pablo Honey

* Allmusic 3/5 stars link

* Entertainment Weekly (favourable)

* Q 3/5 stars

* Robert Christgau (choice cut) "Creep link

* Rolling Stone 4/5 stars link

 

The Bends

* Allmusic 5/5 stars link

* Blender 5/5 stars link

* Robert Christgau © link

* NME (9/10)

* Q Magazine 5/5 stars

* Rolling Stone 4/5 stars RS 919

 

OK Computer

* Allmusic 5/5 stars link

* Entertainment Weekly (B+) 1997

* NME (10/10) (14 July 1997)

* Pitchfork Media (10/10) 1999

* Q 5/5 stars (July 1997)

* Robert Christgau (B-) link

* Rolling Stone 4/5 stars 1997

* Slant Magazine 5/5 stars 2007

* Time (mixed) 1997

 

KID A

* Allmusic 4/5 stars link

* The Guardian 2/5 stars 2000

* NME (7/10) 2000

* Pitchfork Media (10.0/10) 2000

* Q 4/5 stars Nov. 2000, p. 96

* Robert Christgau (A-) link

* Rolling Stone 4/5 stars 2000

* The Wire (favourable) #201, p. 59

 

Amnesiac

* Allmusic 3.5/5 stars link

* Blender 4/5 stars link

* NME (8/10)

* Pitchfork Media (9.0/10) link

* Robert Christgau (*** honorable mention) link

* Rolling Stone 3.5/5 stars link

* Rolling Stone Album Guide 4.5/5 stars

* Slant Magazine 3.5/5 stars link

* Stylus (B) 9/1/03

 

Hail To the Thief

* Allmusic 4/5 stars link

* Guardian Unlimited 3/5 stars 6/6/03

* IGN (8.0/10) 2003

* NME (7/10) link

* Pitchfork Media (9.3/10) 6/10/03

* PopMatters (positive) 20/06/03

* Paste Magazine (positive) 6/1/03

* Rolling Stone 4/5 stars 6/26/03

* Stylus (B+) 9/1/03

* Robert Christgau (* honorable mention) link

 

In Rainbows

* Allmusic 4.5/5 stars 2007

* Entertainment Weekly (A) 2007

* The Guardian 5/5 stars 2007

* Mojo 4/5 stars December 2007 (p. 96)

* NME (favourable) 2007

* Pitchfork Media (9.3/10) 2007

* Q 5/5 stars December 2007 (pp. 106–107)

* Rolling Stone 4.5/5 stars 2007

* The Times 4/5 stars 2007

* The Wire (6/10) December 2007 (p. 63)

Sorry I made a mistake. Radiohead have sold 22million not 26million. Also I had Paranoid Android on my bloody ipod and if that's the best they've got then dear lord! Noel Gallagher who IS superior to Yorke in every way musically. He's got the balls to criticise Radiohead and so he should as they have to look up at Oasis. Also don't slag Gallagher off when he has written 2 of the greatest albums in music history. Yorke could only dream of writing a song as good as Don't Look Back In Anger and Live Forever. As Bono said Chris Martin is up there with the great melodists, Noel Gallagher, Paul McCartney, Ray Davis. He never said a thing about Yorke. He ain't perfect and nor are Radiohead.

 

Noel Gallagher and his brother are one of the most conceded/arrogant musicians ever. And Oasis? come on, they were big in the 90's for those two albums and then everyone forgot about them. Does Gallagher write catchy songs? Yes... but he copies so many other musicians songs.

 

Just because Bono doesn't mention Thom Yorke, doesn't mean he doesn't like the band, perhaps he isn't one of his favorite songwriters. Also if you want to bring up other musicians Paul McCartney LOVES Radiohead, and says that they're one of the best bands out there today.

 

 

Sorry but where did it say Backstreet Boys were a rock band? A boy band yes, but there two very different things.

In this case it really isn't. Because your talking about albums sales and how good a musician is, then according to you this means that they are superior to so many other artists.

 

 

 

Overall, are Radiohead perfect? No. No band is, because if they were then the entire World would love them.

Oasis? You can't fool me. You think Hanna Montana is the greatest, don't you. :P

 

What the bloody hell are you talkling about?! I have never mentioned Hannah Montana ONCE! Then you go on about Miley Cyrus? Who's she?! You must know, you obviously have large amounts of knowledge on these people. Your an idiot. And don't criticise Oasis. They are more iconic and greater than Radiohead and after all you only live in Canada so you'd know nothing about the British music scene. Come back after you've read up on Oasis. What next? Gonna make fun of U2? Utter knowledgless pillock.

There's no argument saying that Radiohead are boring and dull. I rest my case.

Now I know there are a lot of people on here that likes Radiohead, so please respect my opinion. It is only my opinion. I don't like them. Radiohead are far too pretentious for my liking and are so arrogant that they never seem to praise any other band despite the praise they get. Also I'm not fooled like many reviewers into thinking Radiohead are intelligent. Radiohead create crap sounding music that everyone thinks sounds good, only that they are forced into thinking it sounds good because if you say something against this band then you are deemed "not intelligent". I won't be fooled personally. Thom Yorke is inferior to Chris Martin in every single way. The man can't even sing for God's sake! Why on earth are they not subject to criticism?? If they were so good they would have sold hundreds of millions of albums now in their 16 year career. As it turns out they've only sold 26 million albums in that period. Coldplay have sold 47 million in 8 years. Oasis sold 20 million on one album alone. They've got 50 million in around the same period as Radiohead. Album sales tell a lot for rock bands. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, U2.... they've all sold them in their hundreds of millions, in The Beatles cases billions. Coldplay's music is much more loved than Radiohead's.

 

Hmmm, Radiohead never praising any other bands. You obviously know nothing about Radiohead. They've praised Neil Young and R.E.M. countless times. They've covered their songs, done collaborations, etc.

And here is an article that makes your argument void.

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/18060334/radioheads_secret_influences_from_fleetwood_mac_to_thomas_pynchon

 

So it all comes down to album sales? How old fashioned are you? It's not just sales that determine the popularity of a band. Touring, etc. is also part of the factor.

 

Sorry but where did it say Backstreet Boys were a rock band? A boy band yes, but there two very different things.

 

He's merrily showing the flaws in your album sale = success theory.

 

I'm sorry but this just goes to show that when someone criticises Radiohead then RH fans just won't accept ANY criticism of any kind. And I saw someone say CM could never release a solo album? What BALLS! Some of Coldplay's most beautiful music has been Chris singing on his own. Just look at his Hardest Part performance on the tour he does.

 

So a Chris Martin solo album would have to be an album full of Coldplay covers :laugh3:. You say that Thom Yorke is inferior to Chris Martin in every single way. I'm guessing that you've never listened the Eraser. Thom Yorke has already proved that he can have great success doing solo work. Can't say the same about "CM". Or have never seen this [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6YF_rYfmG0]YouTube - Coldplay - Talk ( Live at 48th Grammy Awards 2006)[/ame]. I'm sorry, but sometimes Chris Martin's voice is just pathetic live. That performance in itself is actually when I started getting turned off Coldplay.

I'm sure that most Radiohead fans on here agree, sure we're open to criticism and discussion. But you haven't presented any logical points to argue with.

 

Sorry I made a mistake. Radiohead have sold 22million not 26million. Also I had Paranoid Android on my bloody ipod and if that's the best they've got then dear lord! Noel Gallagher who IS superior to Yorke in every way musically. He's got the balls to criticise Radiohead and so he should as they have to look up at Oasis. Also don't slag Gallagher off when he has written 2 of the greatest albums in music history. Yorke could only dream of writing a song as good as Don't Look Back In Anger and Live Forever. As Bono said Chris Martin is up there with the great melodists, Noel Gallagher, Paul McCartney, Ray Davis. He never said a thing about Yorke. He ain't perfect and nor are Radiohead.

 

Again, what is your basis for this arguement. Superior in every way? Why don't you list some ways. If your criteria for better in every way is "has to cancel more shows when he gets pushed on stage" then you are absolutely correct. Two of the greatest albums in music history? I know one is Whats the Story (Morning Glory), what is the other one? They seem like since that album they've been looking for success but have been too busy fighting with each other, slagging off other bands, and snorting coke, and trying to be the Beatles to focus on making good music.

And Noel Gallagher could only dream of writing a song that doesn't sound like the Beatles. Or write a song without egotystical lyrics. Or a song with any form of creative/experimental element.

I've listened to lots of Oasis in my life, and I enjoy them, don't get me wrong. But as for originality and stimulating music, they don't quite do it for me.

 

Change the band name to beatles and everything will be excused:nice:

 

In this case,go screw yourself

 

For once, I agree with Marek :P

What the bloody hell are you talkling about?! I have never mentioned Hannah Montana ONCE! Then you go on about Miley Cyrus? Who's she?! You must know, you obviously have large amounts of knowledge on these people. Your an idiot. And don't criticise Oasis. They are more iconic and greater than Radiohead and after all you only live in Canada so you'd know nothing about the British music scene. Come back after you've read up on Oasis. What next? Gonna make fun of U2? Utter knowledgless pillock.

 

is there really a need for the insults?

"In interviews Yorke has cited a variety of personal musical heroes and influences, including jazz composer and bassist Charles Mingus, Neil Young, singer Scott Walker, electronic acts Aphex Twin and Autechre, and Krautrock band Can. Talking Heads, Queen, Joy Division, Magazine, Elvis Costello, The Smiths and Sonic Youth were early influences on Radiohead and Yorke. In 2004, at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival, Yorke mentioned to the crowd, "When I was in college, the Pixies and R.E.M. changed my life,"[29] and he has often mentioned both bands as examples."

Maybe we should put up videos too of all the covers Radiohead has done. Covers done, obviously, out of hate for the original artist.

What the bloody hell are you talkling about?! I have never mentioned Hannah Montana ONCE! Then you go on about Miley Cyrus? Who's she?! You must know, you obviously have large amounts of knowledge on these people. Your an idiot. And don't criticise Oasis. They are more iconic and greater than Radiohead and after all you only live in Canada so you'd know nothing about the British music scene. Come back after you've read up on Oasis. What next? Gonna make fun of U2? Utter knowledgless pillock.

 

Its funny, you talk about how "us Radiohead fans" can't take any criticism. Looks like you can't handle anybody that thinks differently than you since you've resorted to calling people here knowledgless pricks.

And for the record you're completely ignorant and out of place for saying that "you only live in Canada so you'd know nothing about the British music scene. Come back after you've read up on Oasis." Too bad Space Cadet here is in fact a knowledgeable music fan and she listens to alot of British bands including Oasis.

 

 

So what exactly are you trying to accomplish here other than tarnishing your image?

Way I see it, there's nothing to tarnish.

:laugh3: true enough.

 

In my opinion I think this thread should just be locked since there doesn't seem like there is going to be anything but insults coming from one side of the arguement.

The simple fact is, you can't argue about quality of music. It's all subjective and nobody gets anywhere. It creates chaos.

Yup. But there are facts. Such as the bands that Radiohead have praised and have been inspired by. They're not too pretentious to say such a thing :P