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We will be a little short of puns for the next week

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Mark never knows hes wrong, he doesnt respond when he feels he cant convince people how right he actually is.

Mark never knows hes wrong, he doesnt respond when he feels he cant convince people how right he actually is.

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Haha this did occur to me after I posted.

Pickle youve changed :disappointed:

Mark doesn't respond when he knows he's wrong.

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He does all the time. Otherwise he would only have one post.

He does all the time. Otherwise he would only have one post.

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Knows being the key word though, when you make a point he can't counter, there will be silence.

Only a fool would willingly meet with a pitchfork wielding mob. I don't think Mark is that sort of a fool.

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Neither me nor the admins here are either underage or new, which is why I don't have a problem with the wiser route in this case. Yes he contacted me about my post. He said very little and nothing of consequence so I haven't responded. His actions however, speak volumes.

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I said that if Mark changed his behavior, I wouldn't have a problem with him being here. His behavior as I have observed it has changed. Therefore, I withdraw my complaints as long as his behavior stays changed.

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Worries, being worries, will never stop nagging, which is why I will continue to be vigilant. By which I mean, keep an eye on things, not make a big fuss about old news.

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To those who feel the need for another big argument I ask, do you really want things to improve, or are you looking for some sort of revenge/emotional catharsis from a fight? From your attitudes it seems like the latter. Me, I wanted things to improve and they did. If it was not for my worries, I would have kept my mouth shut. I wish I had now, since this whole exercise has only reminded me why I don't pick sides. I hate pitchfork wielding mobs. They are the antithesis of reason, and reason is the number one thing needed here.

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Which is why I will say again, time for this thread to die. It has served its purpose. This is the last time I will post here as long as things stay changed.

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I said that if Mark changed his behavior, I wouldn't have a problem with him being here. His behavior as I have observed it has changed. Therefore, I withdraw my complaints as long as his behavior stays changed.

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Space Cadet, you expressed a concern about his private Pming (recruiting?) of underage/younger members, which was very valid (I have evidence of one case myself).

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So, how are you going to 'police' this aspect of his behaviour? Just take his word for it??

Thats what I referred to, Cadet wrote that hes dealing with the matter privately, thats more worrying then publicly. A lot of the people he befriends are new, oblivious, he capitalises on that, and exploits their attitude to influence. His version of how he speaks to people is different from the reality.

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This forum is bad for the man, bad for us, he should be banned. Thats what should happen, but unfortunately there are no clear grounds to ban him on, and do you know why that is?

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He adjusts, just like hes changed his behaviour recently.

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In terms of criticising him, Im done, theres just no progress in here. I'll continue to confront him about his insane logic towards everything, but only in a polite and unoffensive manner. And I'll expect no response.

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Troll is the word for him, when Ive had arguments with him, I would swear, be ageist, and use anything I could to make him look stupid. So he would reply with a shit joke about me being a **** (Which is fair enough) but me being a ****, in his mind, means the original issue is irrelevant.

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When I just focus on what nutty thing hes written (eg the thread posted recently about getting socks for christmas), he just ignores it.

*feels lots of readers reading*

Thats what I referred to, Cadet wrote that hes dealing with the matter privately, thats more worrying then publicly. A lot of the people he befriends are new, oblivious, he capitalises on that, and exploits their attitude to influence. His version of how he speaks to people is different from the reality.

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Absolutely, and in my humble opinion it's a great shame that Space Cadet has chosen to distance herself from her very well-thought post, and is the only reason I continue not to bump it.

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She is dealing with this privately? She is able to monitor Mark's behaviour that just a few days ago she was so very concerned about? How??

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I have not been bothered enough to enquire, but I guess that Mark's awful behaviour towards me was part (?) of what got him banned in the first place. I have certainly had no 'private' dealing with him on his initiative to 'deal with this.

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This forum is bad for the man, bad for us, he should be banned. Thats what should happen, but unfortunately there are no clear grounds to ban him on, and do you know why that is?

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Imho, it's because Ian and Jen are too gentle, too kind, and too laid-back to have a strict moderation policy here. I have been a member of forums since the internet opened (more or less) and continue to be a member of around ten. ALL of them have, or did have when I was a member, moderation policies, which include grounds for permanent banning (and grounds on any of the other forums Mark would have passed long, long ago).

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He adjusts, just like hes changed his behaviour recently.

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It'll be only for a short while, imho. It may take a month, he might even be able to hold off for longer, even a year, but his old ways will come back, and trouble will start again. In the meantime, who's going to prevent his recruitment of new (particularly underage) members that Space Cadet highlighted, was so worried about, and then withdrew from? No-one.

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In terms of criticising him, Im done, theres just no progress in here. I'll continue to confront him about his insane logic towards everything, but only in a polite and unoffensive manner. And I'll expect no response.

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Sounds like the best course of action for us all. Sooner or later, despite the lack of a moderation policy on this forum, he will surely get himself banned. Being rude to him only gives him ammunition to complain back to the mods. As Space Cadet so wisely said, we must be civil but reasonable with him.

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*feels lots of readers reading*

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My goodness I do hope so.

Bump (of course Mark is completely free to come and defend himself, but has tellingly so far decided not to do so).

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