Interpol warns Koran burning may trigger attacks‎

[mc_squared]

Im muslim and im from pakistan and as everyone considers this country an extremist country

 

There's no such thing as an extremist country. There are extremist elements in every country. The only difference is that these extremist elements appear to have more power and influence in some countries than others.;)

In some countries like North Korea, sadly, these extremist elements are actually ruling the country.:(

 

 

im the only person who see's the similarity between this incident and true blood's episode whr the priest wanted to burn a vampire. i just hope the same thing doesn't happen to the pastor Wht happened to the priest in true blood.:laugh3:

 

True Blood actually echoes a lot of the problems of modern-day society, bizarrely enough.;)

 

After reading the story, I think this is long from over.

 

Terry Jones said he was calling off the event after the group behind a planned Islamic centre near Ground Zero in New York agreed to relocate it.

But the cultural centre's organisers said they had no plans to move it.

And the pastor goes on to say, "If it's not moved, then I think Islam is a very poor example of religion. I think that would be very pitiful. I do not expect that."

 

 

As was said in another thread, the people behind the plans to build that mosque near Ground Zero are clearly "extremists" themselves, and are therefore no more representative of the the Islamic faith than Terry Jones is of Christianity.

They are all equally as bad.:dozey:

[nouratan]

There's no such thing as an extremist country. There are extremist elements in every country. The only difference is that these extremist elements appear to have more power and influence in some countries than others.;)

In some countries like North Korea, sadly, these extremist elements are actually ruling the country.:(

 

we Pakistanis love the way western media portrays us:laugh3:

they forget that the Wahhabi Arabs hate us coz we're not religious enough for them as the islam we follow is more spiritual and the west hates us coz we're not unislamic enough for them.:P

the terrorist attacks and the tribal exaggeration btw started in Pakistan only started after the WAR OF TERROR , whc IRONICALLY OUR GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS and is indirectly creating a bigger problem for the country and itself.

 

and who told you that North Korea is ruled by an extremist government, your media and your government. Start thinking outside the bubble, not everything is black or white. :kiss:

[mc_squared]

 

and who told you that North Korea is ruled by an extremist government, your media and your government. Start thinking outside the bubble, not everything is black or white. :kiss:

 

In the case of North Korea, I believe you'll find there's very little doubt. There's no democracy there whatsoever.:dozey:

 

Anyway, back to the topic itself, they just made a very good point on a programme I was watching.

Why was this nutcase given any airtime in the first place?

[nouratan]

^this is wht i also dont understand either. this guy started saying he was going to burn the Quran in june so why make it an issue now:dozey:

its just going to make ppl defensive and its human nature to retaliate so i dont get why publicize the issue. i dont think even the christians support him so...:rolleyes:

[mc_squared]

^this is wht i also dont understand either. this guy started saying he was going to burn the Quran in june so why make it an issue now:dozey:

 

Because they want to stir things up.:dozey:

 

its just going to make ppl defensive and its human nature to retaliate so i dont get why publicize the issue. i dont think even the christians support him so...:rolleyes:

 

Of course not. Only fellow nutcases would.;)

[nouratan]

i've never understood media and its way of making ppl believe everything they feed them and nutcases will definitely react :angry:

i hate that it has become a religious issue.

[bart]

I dont give a shit, does Florida have the death penalty ???

[NumbersGirl]

^ Yes, Florida does have the death penalty.

However, if you're implying he should get the death penalty if people are killed as a direct result of / response to his actions, I don't think it would fly. He couldn't be charged with murder; at best he might be charged with involuntary manslaughter, which does not warrant the death penalty.

[mc_squared]

i've never understood media and its way of making ppl believe everything they feed them and nutcases will definitely react :angry:

i hate that it has become a religious issue.

 

I don't believe it has. It's only become a religious nutcase issue. The guy isn't even a real pastor, anyway, and only has about 50 "followers", apparently.:dozey:

[mc_squared]

^ Yes, Florida does have the death penalty.

However, if you're implying he should get the death penalty if people are killed as a direct result of / response to his actions, I don't think it would fly. He couldn't be charged with murder; at best he might be charged with involuntary manslaughter, which does not warrant the death penalty.

 

Of course not, but it should be possible to charge him with "religious incitement" or something like that.:dozey:

[nouratan]

I don't believe it has. It's only become a religious nutcase issue. The guy isn't even a real pastor, anyway, and only has about 50 "followers", apparently.:dozey:

 

it has if you read American newspapers and watch fox news :rolleyes::laugh3:

[mc_squared]

it has if you read American newspapers and watch fox news :rolleyes::laugh3:

 

Well as I said, they're just as much to blame as the nutcase himself.:dozey:

[NumbersGirl]

Yeah there wasn't much newsworthy going on at the time so they had to dig up a story that would ruffle people's feathers.

 

Accomplished. And then some.

[coldplay_is_louve.]

Thankfully, the nut job called it off.

 

 

And being American, when I read the title for this thread I was all like "Why would Interpol get into it? They're just a band!"

 

:wacko:

[Mrs.Chatterbox]

Well, i think it's totally a bad thing to do. and why would catholic's thinks they are better than other religions? :dozey:

[nouratan]

hes not catholic. hes Evangelical christian or something :confused:.

imo the three major religions Islam, Christianity and Judaism are the same religion from three different point of views and this is why we're fighting amongst eachother just to make our religions different.

^^The pastor didn't call off the quran burning he just postponed it.

[Mrs.Chatterbox]

sorry, i mistaken, but he's christian anyway.

it looks like the world is going to an end.

[Politix]

this is such an embarrassment for America It's this guy and his 50 people congregation but they make everyone look like idiots here.

 

This.

[nancyk58]

The pastor might have called off his Koran burning action, but in Afghanistan there has been at least one demonstration - probably more. I read about a demonstration against a Nato camp, and at least one shot was fired, and at least one was killed by a shot coming from the Nato camp.

 

I have not been reading so much about it, because

 

there is a big drama going on in Copenhagen.

 

 

I am about to start a thread about it named: BIG DRAMA IN COPENHAGEN. Involving an explosion at a hotel in Copenhagen. A man fled into a park. Read about it in the thread.

 

I am listening to TV2 News as I sit here at the computer writing.

[MichMoch]

this guy is the most rasist person I've ever seen and he should be burned!

[nouratan]

^^i hope no one got hurt and why did he do it.

[Megalomania]

^this is wht i also dont understand either. this guy started saying he was going to burn the Quran in june so why make it an issue now:dozey:

its just going to make ppl defensive and its human nature to retaliate so i dont get why publicize the issue. i dont think even the christians support him so...:rolleyes:

 

The pastor probably wanted attention, and decided that making it on 9/11 will give him more of it. :|

 

It's a terrible idea, he's a stubborn asshole that is religiously intolerant. And I'm Christian and I certainly don't support him. In the bible it's stated many times to be accepting of everyone, no matter what their religion. Someone asked him why he's doing this if the bible says the opposite, and he said that "God sent him a message". :dozey:

[the_gloaming09]

The pastor is an utter moron. I'm glad it seems he's no longer doing it.

[Megalomania]

The pastor is an utter moron. I'm glad it seems he's no longer doing it.

 

He said he has "postponed" it. He originally said he agreed to it because the people in charge of that new religious center near Ground Zero agreed to move it back a few blocks, which they're saying they never said. So now he's saying he was lied to.

[mc_squared]

Violent backlash across Muslim world continues as Pastor Terry Jones finally calls off 9/11 Koran-burning at church

 

By Daniel Bates and David Wilkes

Last updated at 11:37 PM on 10th September 2010

 

 

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A violent backlash spread across the Muslim world today over an American pastor’s threat to burn the Koran - even after he agreed to put it on hold.

Dozens were injured when a mob attacked a Nato compound in north Afghanistan as thousands took to the streets to condemn Pastor Terry Jones.

There were conflicting reports that one protester had been shot dead.

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Backtracking: Pastor Terry Jones, right, with Imam Muhammed Musri, left, President of the Islamic Society of Central Florida, after their meeting yesterday

 

 

 

 

Flag burning: Muslims in Multan, Pakistan show their anger at American pastor Terry Jones's ideas to burn the Koran - some 10,000 protested outside the Nato base in Afghanistan

 

 

 

Anger: Muslims in the Punjab province of Multan react to Reverend Terry Jones's desire to burn the Koran on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks

 

Pastor Jones and members of his Dove Outreach Church in Gainesville, Florida, had intended to throw 200 copies of the Islamic holy book on a bonfire tomorrow, the 9th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on America.

But on a day of confusion over his intentions, the pastor said tonight he would not hold the book-burning event and would now meet tomorrow with the New York Imam at the centre of the affair to settle the dispute.

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The attempt by Pastor Jones to defuse the growing international row appeared to have backfired after at least three Americans came forward to say they would burn copies of the holy book, shattering hopes the row could be resolved.

Outrage: Afghans in Badakhshan, northern Afganistan, shout anti U.S. slogans at a protest in reaction to the proposed Koran book burning

 

Casualty: An Afghan man lies in hospital after being injured during the protest in Badakhshan

 

Protests: Muslims across the world were angered by the plans, including this group of lawyers in Multan, Pakistan, who staged a U.S. flag burning in response

 

 

President Barack Obama issued an emotional appeal, saying the burning of the Koran would endanger the lives of ‘our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, husbands and wives’ fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The President said: 'It is in the age of the Internet that something can cause us profound damage around the world, so we have to take it seriously.

‘This is a way of endangering our troops, our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, husbands and wives who are sacrificing for us to keep us safe, and you don’t play games with that.’

Anger: Another group of protesters, Christians in Multan, Pakistan, show their support for Muslims angered by the planned Koran-burning

 

Protests took place throughout the Muslim world in Pakistan, Iraq and on the Gaza Strip.

But the riot in the northern Afghan province of Badakhshan was by far the most serious.

It began when several hundred young men attacked a Nato reconstruction team base that is staffed by German soldiers who are part of the international force in the country.

The mob overpowered Afghan security guards on the outer wall and, armed with sticks and rocks, tried to storm the inner wall but were forced back when the Nato troops fired into the crowd.

Ground Zero: The controversy surrounds the construction of a mosque near the World Trade Centre site in New York

 

Claims that a protester had been killed could not be confirmed, with some reports saying no one had been killed.

Other protests took place in the capital Kabul and two other towns, leaving two men injured.

US Secretary of Defence Robert Gates, effectively the head of world’s most powerful military force, took the extraordinary step of phoning Pastor Jones who has a congregation of between 30 and 50 people.

A deal was then brokered with Florida Imam Muhammed Musri, but that was immediately called into question.

Pastor Jones claimed he was told that if he did not burn the Koran, the Ground Zero mosque would be moved, although this was denied by the developers.

He has now apparently settled for a meeting with Feisal Abdul Rauf, the Imam behind the project and was due to fly to New York on Saturday to see him.

Call: President Barack Obama urged the church not to burn the Koran while appearing on ABC's Good Morning America

 

 

Uproar: Protester Robert Kunst, 68, demonstrates in support of the Koran book-burning at Dove World Outreach Center, Florida

 

However, in a further twist, Imam Rauf disputed the claim that he would meet with Pastor Jones tomorrow.

Pastor Jones has called on Imam Rauf to urgently respond to offers of talks.

This evening, Imam Rauf replied: ‘I am prepared to consider meeting with anyone who is seriously committed to pursuing peace.

'We have no such meeting planned at this time. Our plans for the community centre have not changed. With the solemn day of September 11 upon us, I encourage everyone to take time for prayer and reflection.’

Pastor Jones said the episode had proved that ‘radical Islam is much more dangerous and violent than we thought.

‘The American people do not want the Mosque there, the Muslims don’t want us to burn the Koran, so let’s do something that will make everybody happy,’ he said.

Meeting: Wayne Sapp, right, an Associate Pastor of the Dove World Outreach Center, armed with a gun on his hip, escorts Imam Muhammed Musri, left, President of the Islamic Society of Central Florida, into the church to meet with Pastor Terry Jones

 

Arab newspapers described his threat to burn the Koran as a deliberate attempt to infuriate Muslims.

‘It is Satanic, a sin of the worst kind because it is a deliberate one. That makes it far more than an act of ignorant stupidity,’ the Arab News said.

In New York a memorial for those killed on 9/11 looked to be overshadowed by protests for and against the Ground Zero mosque and police were expected to deploy several hundred officers.

Three other Koran burnings could also take place across the US.

Mixed message: Pastor Terry Jones had made a number of statements concerning the event

 

In Topeka, Kansas, the notorious Westboro Baptist Church, which pickets funerals of American soldiers with anti-gay placards, vowed to set alight a copy as a riposte to the ‘bullying’ of pastor Jones.

In Springfield, Tennessee, pastor Bob Old said he was going to burn the Koran because followers of Islam ‘worship a false god, have a false text, a false prophet and a false scripture'.

In Cheyenne, Wyoming, protester Duncan Philp plans to set the book alight on the steps of the State Capitol building to spite Muslims and Mr Obama.

And today in England, an estimated 11,000 Muslim gathered at the Baitul Futuh Mosque in Morden, south London, to hear a sermon by Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, world head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

He said Mr Jones had spread ‘hatred’ around the world.

Earlier at the mosque, the largest in western Europe, church leaders of different religions joined Rafiq Hayat, National President of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association UK, in condemning Mr Jones for ‘creating disorder in society’ and calling for a non-violent response to his inflammatory threat.

Mr Hayat said: ‘If somebody is going to do this act [burn the Koran] there is no doubt there will be fundamentalists in Muslim countries who will want to react in a violent way.

'That is sad and will create further discord. The promotion of peace is the essence of all religions.’

 

 

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