It's not about me, it's about what I said on the first post and at least Ren tried to make a proper reply.

 

I hope Nick will be ok, as we all do. But banning him is stupid, how will you know if he's safe and back home if you ban him?

I agree he needs to put his efforts in going back home, etc. But I still think closing the threads and disabling people's accounts without posting why is a bit disrespectful :blank: What if he's alone there and doesn't have anyone to talk to except people in here? (that's just an idea of course, I don't even know if all of this is true)

 

@Carrie: did you read my first post? because all you did was replying to one tiny detail in the second post and get over defensive :blank: this reminds me of another person who only cares about tiny little details such as grammar and ignores all the other points :/

 

 

Hi Lore and everyone else. How are you?

 

Listen, we normally don't discuss or make any announcements as to why members get banned, temporary banned but we understand that you and as other members have concerns and want to know the details of things. We explained why the thread was closed and why accounts were disabled.

 

Also:

 

Due to recent events. We would like to remind our community members to please be careful on who you associate yourself with online. It is not our responsibility if unfortunate events happen offline among coldplaying members.

 

We do not check for backgrounds on members, Ids, security numbers to make sure they are who they say they are. It is also one of the forum guidelines:

 

 

2b) The Coldplaying messageboard is a public forum widely accessible on the internet. You use the Coldplaying messageboard at your own risk. In any online forum it is not possible to be sure that other users are who they say they are, know what they say they know, or are affiliated with whom they say they are affiliated.

 

2d) Do not post your own or anyone else's personal, real-life information such as (but not limited to) home addresses and home phone numbers. This also extends to static information in your signatures and profiles including links to personal accounts on social networking sites. Do not demand of or continually pressure other users for personal information.

3a) Each member is allowed one login account. Registering with multiple accounts is not allowed. We are and will continue to monitor multiple account users.

 

 

might explain some of your questions.

how will you know if he's safe and back home if you ban him?

He's exchanged info with multiple members over the past two days (including at least one mod) and has been in constant contact with those people off the board... I think he'll let at least one of those multiple people know and it will get back to us.

yeah that's true but still. I'll see if I can ask him what does he think about this. Banning someone without reasons is very disrespectful. I'm sure he knows that everything he posts here might be read by kels or whoever else related to this issue, he's not a 5 year old kid who needs to be censored.

without reasons

omg are you serious

omg are you serious

 

Did he break any cping rule? was he the one pretending to be someone else? that's what I mean. Seriously, it gets annoying when you ignore entire posts and just focus on one thing out of context. It looks like your account was hacked and is being used by another cping member when you do that :(

 

That's why I asked for the reasons in the first post, but of course only Ren replied to that.

That's why I asked for the reasons in the first post, but of course only Ren replied to that.

Only Ren replied to it because like I said it takes more than 2 seconds for an official reply and once an official reply is posted only one mod needs to post it... which is what Viri did.

Only Ren replied to it because like I said it takes more than 2 seconds for an official reply and once an official reply is posted only one mod needs to post it... which is what Viri did.

 

Well it would have been easier to say that instead of focusing on stupid things and make the mods team seem uninterested in the whole issue.

 

As I said, this wasn't aimed to anyone in particular, it's just that closing threads, banning people and being secretive doesn't really help, it just hides the problem. People deserve to know if there are dangerous people around.

Yes, it's not pure trolling. Apparently someone used this place to contact people and talk to them pretending it was another person :freak:. If this is true, this could happen again and that's why I dont think the threads should be locked/deleted/whatever they'll do and remain silent about it. I know it's not cping's fault if someone falls on this kind of tricks but posting some warnings could be very helpful.

 

I agree with you Lore, I suppose it wouldn't have made things more dangerous if there had been some fact-bound explanation as of why, or at least a short hint that there will be an explanation for the means chosen here as soon as things are sorted out.

 

Things could be handled more openly (without giving away too much).

 

But this never seems to be heard or understood from above. Which feels bad, because it's not a ridiculous pledge (and never has been, imo). It would be cool, if this would be discussed already. I would participate and happily dig out old big fat frustration and actual anger.

 

Today's case is so extreme though, I just hold it on the mods' side, that they were irritated and felt like they want to help Nick, and forgot about the rest of us a bit, at least in the beginning.

to be honest....I didn't want to be a mod right now as this is a totally different level compared to the stuff they usually have to deal with.

 

I think we should trust the mods as much as we can now and I don't think banning Nick was a bad idea....this is a public forum and everyone can see what is written on here. As we saw in the past days he seemed to have exchanged msn adds, etc with some members on here....it might be better for HIM (and not for the forum) if he talks to people on there....I am not sure if heating up the situation even more on here will make things better

to be honest....I didn't want to be a mod right now as this is a totally different level compared to the stuff they usually have to deal with.

 

I think we should trust the mods as much as we can now and I don't think banning Nick was a bad idea....this is a public forum and everyone can see what is written on here. As we saw in the past days he seemed to have exchanged msn adds, etc with some members on here....it might be better for HIM (and not for the forum) if he talks to people on there....I am not sure if heating up the situation even more on here will make things better

I agree with you Lore, I suppose it wouldn't have made things more dangerous, if there had been some fact-bound explanation as of why, or at least a short hint that there will be an explanation for the means chosen here as soon as things are sorted out. Things could be handled more openly (without giving away too much).

 

But this never seems to be heard or understood from above. Which feels bad, because it's not a ridiculous pledge (and never has been, imo). It would be cool, if this would be discussed already. I would participate and happily dig out old big fat frustration and actual anger.

 

 

I agree with the first part.

 

 

One thing I dislike about this forum is how secretive everyone is about things. Like, if you have an opinion about a particular issue and you post it, you are instantly labeled as a trouble maker even if more people thinks the same (but they don't talk about that in public). I guess this is no different from what we see on real life anyway.

 

 

to be honest....I didn't want to be a mod right now as this is a totally different level compared to the stuff they usually have to deal with.

 

I think we should trust the mods as much as we can now and I don't think banning Nick was a bad idea....this is a public forum and everyone can see what is written on here. As we saw in the past days he seemed to have exchanged msn adds, etc with some members on here....it might be better for HIM (and not for the forum) if he talks to people on there....I am not sure if heating up the situation even more on here will make things better

 

I thought about that when Ren pointed it out and I agree with you and him. All I was asking for were a few answers. I don't want to start a fight or anything like that, but as I already said, people deserve to know if there are any dangerous people around like kels (according to the info we have), and hiding the threads won't help with that. As I already said, it just looked like they wanted to hide the problem and that's why I posted this thread.

 

I'm glad some people actually took the time to think and post about this in a good way instead of ignoring and trying to change the topic to something pointless.

Lore still has a very valid point though, in my opinion.

When Nick's awful nightmare has come to an end, could we then please discuss Lore's interjections? I will clad my anger in silk and honey, I swear! (Unless the eurgh-person enetrs that discussion, that is.)

I will clad my anger in silk and honey, I swear! (Unless the eurgh-person enetrs that discussion, that is.)

 

omg :lol:

One thing I dislike about this forum is how secretive everyone is about things. Like, if you have an opinion about a particular issue and you post it, you are instantly labeled as a trouble maker even if more people thinks the same (but they don't talk about that in public). I guess this is no different from what we see on real life anyway.

 

 

Yes, yes and yes!!! :hug:

To post or not to post, that is the question.:thinking:

Lore still has a very valid point though, in my opinion.

When Nick's awful nightmare has come to an end, could we then please discuss Lore's interjections? I will clad my anger in silk and honey, I swear! (Unless the eurgh-person enetrs that discussion, that is.)

I understand the frustration some of you are having now, but the explanations we have provided thus far in comparison to forum guidelines have been provided. I know you all may want every single juicy little detail that has been discussed behind the scenes for the past couple of days as to why the decision was made, but it would not be appropriate to post it here right now. This is nothing personal against Nick.

 

Once everything is back to "normal" with Nick (not sure how else to put it, I'm sure that will be misconstrued), then I think it will be fine for us to explain things a bit further as you suggest. I'm sure people will be like, "oooohhhhh yeah that makes sense now."

 

I'm not sure how else to put it.

I can see the sense as to why Nick was banned, in the topic which he re-edited the first post to explain the full story, he was going on and on about it with further details all here for anyone to read, apparently it's gotten to a serious level and yet Nick was being continually exclusive about it. Though I'm not sure it was definitely the right decision I can understand it.

 

What I don't understand is why it couldn't have been handled a little better in explaining why decisions were made, Ren very simply explained why this was done, for a forum members own protection, and Lore, like myself, could understand this. We shouldn't need to wait hours for an 'official post', there's too much deliberation in your processes, there was no reason why you couldn't just tell us this in the first place.

 

Instead Lore just got this "It's not technically a ban" excuse repeatedly, I think it's a bit patronising to us all, nevermind Loretto of all people, to explain what a temporary ban is, and you may as well have just completely ignored this until your 'official response' was prepared instead of frustrating people. This deliberation process is inconsistent, we've seen people get temp bans within an hour of pissing off one mod and even on the basis of one incident, and we'll see it again, but for some reason when it suits, we need the complete agreement of who knows how many mods before making a decision.

 

Nick's topic which seems to have overstepped the mark as well as the further posts within it have been on the forum all day, for at least several hours, and actually, they're still there on the 1st page, I don't really understand why if they are of genuine danger to his safety why these intimate details are still just sitting there undisturbed. That's a bit of a double standard, it's serious enough to get Nick's account suspended but not serious enough to actually delete. For fucks sake, if right now Nick suddenly thinks he should edit it because he'll get in trouble, he can't.

 

As well as that I wouldn't be surprised if he was given barely any notice, like he's been acting this way for a few days, it seems like everyone read that email, if it was stumbled upon by a mod and Nick kept giving away snippets of details and threatening to re-edit his topic post to include the full story (Which he ended up doing) I think he should have been given a stern warning about the possible consequences of course for himself personally and if he can't see that then it'll result in leaving no choice but giving him a break from the forum.

Instead Lore just got this "It's not technically a ban" excuse repeatedly, I think it's a bit patronising to us all, nevermind Loretto of all people, to explain what a temporary ban is, and you may as well have just completely ignored this until your 'official response' was prepared instead of frustrating people.

 

Yeah this is what annoyed me. I've been here long enough to know about banning, warnings and all that stuff. It would have been easier to wait until the "official response" as you said.

 

This deliberation process is inconsistent, we've seen people get temp bans within an hour of pissing off one mod and even on the basis of one incident, and we'll see it again, but for some reason when it suits, we need the complete agreement of who knows how many mods before making a decision.

 

Exactly and I'm 99% sure that not even all the mods discussed this because Viri's reply was made soon and considering time zones it's hard to see them all online that late (for example it was like 6pm here, 6am in asia, etc.)

 

 

Nick's topic which seems to have overstepped the mark as well as the further posts within it have been on the forum all day, for at least several hours, and actually, they're still there on the 1st page, I don't really understand why if they are of genuine danger to his safety why these intimate details are still just sitting there undisturbed. That's a bit of a double standard, it's serious enough to get Nick's account suspended but not serious enough to actually delete. For fucks sake, if right now Nick suddenly thinks he should edit it because he'll get in trouble, he can't.

 

As well as that I wouldn't be surprised if he was given barely any notice, like he's been acting this way for a few days, it seems like everyone read that email, if it was stumbled upon by a mod and Nick kept giving away snippets of details and threatening to re-edit his topic post to include the full story (Which he ended up doing) I think he should have been given a stern warning about the possible consequences of course for himself personally and if he can't see that then it'll result in leaving no choice but giving him a break from the forum.

 

 

:nod: good point.

For fucks sake, if right now Nick suddenly thinks he should edit it because he'll get in trouble, he can't.

 

This is what I have been thinking, heh.

Even if he wouldn't be banned, you can't edit posts in closed threads.

That is also what I thought, gosh Lore. :phu:

 

 

:disappointed:

:lol:

What I don't understand is why it couldn't have been handled a little better in explaining why decisions were made, Ren very simply explained why this was done, for a forum members own protection, and Lore, like myself, could understand this. We shouldn't need to wait hours for an 'official post', there's too much deliberation in your processes, there was no reason why you couldn't just tell us this in the first place.

We did explain that it was for protection / best interest of the members at the very beginning when the first thread was closed... we said it was for the entire community as a whole, and not just one member.

 

Yeah this is what annoyed me. I've been here long enough to know about banning, warnings and all that stuff. It would have been easier to wait until the "official response" as you said.

I understand this may have been annoying and frustrating, and I know you guys understand all the technical stuff, but keep in mind there are relatively new people here who may not understand, and if you kept referring to is as a ban then they might misinterpret it and freak out, etc. I had to make that clear asap for other people who may not understand the difference, it was for education purposes. Sorry if anybody felt offended or patronized, that was not the intent.

Carrie is a horrible person, new people. Stay away from her. :blush:

SHE'S LYING TO YOU ALL CAUSE SHE'S HUNGRY AND SHE HAS A HANKERIN' FOR SOULS :freak: