Yeah, I figured they wouldn't be able to do much from where they are, it's still rather worrying to think that someone that crazy knows where I live haha. Oh wells

As you may have noticed, we have lifted the temporary disable from Nick's account. (Hi Nick :hug:)

The xxKels account and EnglishSilk account will have permanent bans, since it was recently discovered that they are actually the same user; as mentioned yesterday when posting portions of the forum guidelines, members are only allowed one account, and also members may not use other members' accounts.

 

As for further detail, it was obviously not clear this entire time (nearly 3 years) that xxKels and EnglishSilk were the same person. Nick didn't find out until very recently, and didn't inform the forum until a few days ago. However, mods and admin needed to confirm this before taking action on permanent bans. After extensive research, it was discovered that when Kelsey had her baby and posted on the xxKels account that she just gave birth in Oregon... but the post itself was made in Oklahoma, meaning it was her mother on the account. Obviously nobody here had any reason to suspect it at the time.

 

And to address why we felt it was necessary to temporarily disable Nick's account... keep in mind the nature of what was happening. He had allegedly been conned. He recently posted on here that "this is my last post". How were we to know HOW FAR the con went? Who is to say she/they didn't then get access to his account, and it was actually she/they asking for everybody's info again to send messages to them? And it was actually she/they explaining how they have no more money, maybe hoping that people would send them some (without explicitly asking for it)? That is also why we also made reference to the forum guidelines about sharing personal info, and also instructed people not to send ANYone any currency. We had to take the step of temporarily disabling the account until we could positively identify that is was indeed Nick, in the best interest of the forum community as a whole. In the last few hours we have confirmed it, and thus his account is enabled again.

 

Please understand why we could not post THIS MUCH detail yesterday. The explanations in regard to violations of forum guidleines were posted, as well as general information, but please understand why we couldn't post ALL of this yesterday. I think (hope) Nick would agree that considering how much he has been tricked by this person, that we would want to take this measure to potentially prevent it from happening again to any of you as well.

climbin yo windows

Given the crazy situation it was wise. I took it the wrong way at first but see now it made perfect sense.

glad to see you here Nick:)

Ah shit, just realised that kels/Karen has my home address from the Secret Santa stuff (which I never received). Fun fun fun.

 

why they are fans of coldplay................... ? :wreck:

And to address why we felt it was necessary to temporarily disable Nick's account... keep in mind the nature of what was happening. He had allegedly been conned. He recently posted on here that "this is my last post". How were we to know HOW FAR the con went? Who is to say she/they didn't then get access to his account, and it was actually she/they asking for everybody's info again to send messages to them? And it was actually she/they explaining how they have no more money, maybe hoping that people would send them some (without explicitly asking for it)? That is also why we also made reference to the forum guidelines about sharing personal info, and also instructed people not to send ANYone any currency. We had to take the step of temporarily disabling the account until we could positively identify that is was indeed Nick, in the best interest of the forum community as a whole. In the last few hours we have confirmed it, and thus his account is enabled again.

 

Previous paragraphs I thought about happening, but I did a big HERPADERP and did not think of this. Herpaderp :facepalm:. Oh well, all's good now.

I just saw an explanation PM from a mod entitled "FOR FUCK'S SAKE HERE YOU GO" after my fairly calm and formal posts in this thread, it's no wonder some of the mods with sense want to keep their actions as a whole secret. Seeing that in my inbox a few mins ago made me reminiscent of that HBK kid who used to send me "DIE DIE DIE BITCH WHORE" PM's every other day, except this is a moderator. Wat do? Well I know what I won't do- reply. Holy shit.

 

Welcome back Nick. Lore hope you also lol'd at the extreme PM title.

Nick you're back :nice:

Oh, lul, I hope you are not serious Reilly :facepalm:. After all that effort tidying up and there's another bit of muck on the floor, it seems.

I just saw an explanation PM from a mod entitled "FOR FUCK'S SAKE HERE YOU GO" after my fairly calm and formal posts in this thread, it's no wonder some of the mods with sense want to keep their actions as a whole secret. Seeing that in my inbox a few mins ago made me reminiscent of that HBK kid who used to send me "DIE DIE DIE BITCH WHORE" PM's every other day, except this is a moderator. Wat do? Well I know what I won't do- reply. Holy shit.

 

Welcome back Nick. Lore hope you also lol'd at the extreme PM title.

That was a frustrated joking title and you know it and you are conveniently leaving out the fact that the message itself was calm, which was stated above. Don't incite people by making it out to be more than what it was.

That was a frustrated joking title and you know it and you are conveniently leaving out the fact that the message itself was calm, which was stated above. Don't incite people by making it out to be more than what it was.

 

No, I really did not know that.

 

I didn't leave out anything conveniently as I didn't read the most of the actual PM until now (Though I had left it open to go back to), it starts with "It is not appropriate to post this in public on the forum. Do you think the mods enjoyed wasting so much of our time debating this? Fuck, I spent half of my workday on here trying to sort this shit out, on top of all the other time before that."

 

Is that calm to you? I will point out the rest of the PM from here on is restrained, but to me that sets the tone of being on the attack. You can say I should've read it all before posting about it, but I'd still think the same thing, the rest is calm but it isn't actually a ball of lols like the playful title so I don't see how exactly this manner was a great attempt to further calm the situation.

 

I stopped reading shortly after the snotty rhetorical question.

No, I really did not know that.

 

I didn't leave out anything conveniently as I didn't read the most of the actual PM until now (Though I had left it open to go back to), it starts with "It is not appropriate to post this in public on the forum. Do you think the mods enjoyed wasting so much of our time debating this? Fuck, I spent half of my workday on here trying to sort this shit out, on top of all the other time before that."

 

Is that calm to you? I will point out the rest of the PM from here on is restrained, but to me that sets the tone of being on the attack. You can say I should've read it all before posting about it, but I'd still think the same thing, the rest is calm but it isn't actually a ball of lols like the playful title so I don't see how exactly this manner was a great attempt to further calm the situation.

No that does not send the tone of attack, that sends a tone of my frustration, I can't help if you can't see that. You guys were attacking US on the forum and that doesn't even compare. And comparing the title of the message to someone else's "DIE DIE DIE BITCH WHORE"? Really? Oh, other than using all capitals... definitely not anywhere near the same level.

 

Last night you and Lore were complaining, going on and on about how the mods were not giving what you felt was appropriate detail regarding the incident, and then when I give both of you advance notice of the reason that is now posted, you're complaining about it? Seriously? I give you what you want and then you complain about me giving you what you want? And even though Nick agreed with us and said here, "Given the crazy situation it was wise. I took it the wrong way at first but see now it made perfect sense." You still disagree? mmkay...

I just saw an explanation PM from a mod entitled "FOR FUCK'S SAKE HERE YOU GO" after my fairly calm and formal posts in this thread, it's no wonder some of the mods with sense want to keep their actions as a whole secret. Seeing that in my inbox a few mins ago made me reminiscent of that HBK kid who used to send me "DIE DIE DIE BITCH WHORE" PM's every other day, except this is a moderator. Wat do? Well I know what I won't do- reply. Holy shit.

 

Welcome back Nick. Lore hope you also lol'd at the extreme PM title.

 

I lol'd.

 

I'm used to the "friendly reminders" (they think that adding a ":)" at the end of a post makes it friendly) but a FOR FUCK'S SAKE BLA BLA BLA from someone I never atacked seemed a bit extreme.

 

Anyway, Welcome back Nick, we all hope you can go back home soon!

No that does not send the tone of attack, that sends a tone of my frustration, I can't help if you can't see that. You guys were attacking US on the forum and that doesn't even compare. And comparing the title of the message to someone else's "DIE DIE DIE BITCH WHORE"? Really? Oh, other than using all capitals... definitely not anywhere near the same level.

 

Last night you and Lore were complaining, going on and on about how the mods were not giving what you felt was appropriate detail regarding the incident, and then when I give both of you advance notice of the reason that is now posted, you're complaining about it? Seriously? I give you what you want and then you complain about me giving you what you want? And even though Nick agreed with us and said here, "Given the crazy situation it was wise. I took it the wrong way at first but see now it made perfect sense." You still disagree? mmkay...

 

Seriously? attacking? I was just asking for info, I clearly posted that this wasn't against any of the mods. I didn't use bad words or anything like that.

 

You're taking this a bit too far. I just complained about how you made replies to all the irrelevant parts of the threads and yes, that annoyed me. But I never attacked you or any of the other mods.

I should have used the multiquote.

 

Yeah, I figured they wouldn't be able to do much from where they are, it's still rather worrying to think that someone that crazy knows where I live haha. Oh wells

 

And mine! I sent her a xmas card :sick:

 

Next time I promise I'll get you a sane secret santa (if we decide to do it again after all these creepy episodes :P )

I think we shouldn't really be worrying about a PM being sent with the title caps to be such a big deal right now. I can understand the frustration on both sides, but at this point everyone knows what they need to know so lets move on, shall we?

I think we shouldn't really be worrying about a PM being sent with the title caps to be such a big deal right now. I can understand the frustration on both sides, but at this point everyone knows what they need to know so lets move on, shall we?

 

I just posted because my name was there and I indirectly was acussed of attacking someone :uhoh:

To clarify what I meant by attacking us... attacking in the sense that you were very openly questioning moderating decisions. That can be interpreted as "attacking" us. And you guys were annoyed about me focusing on a single word yesterday, when like I explained, my focus was the purpose of clarifying to newer members who may not know the significance of the difference?

 

 

And mine! I sent her a xmas card :sick:

 

 

same here:\

To clarify what I meant by attacking us... attacking in the sense that you were very openly questioning moderating decisions. That can be interpreted as "attacking" us. And you guys were annoyed about me focusing on a single word yesterday, when like I explained, my focus was the purpose of clarifying to newer members who may not know the significance of the difference?

 

Seriously? questioning is attacking? I didn't know cping was like Cuba... or China :uhoh:

 

 

same here:\

 

D:

Since Nick seems to be taken care of, I'd like to add some more to all the conversational misunderstandings according to how I perceive things/ and have for the last two years or so.

 

It's the tone, which feels provocative sometimes. One, as a user is concerned and airs that, and more often than not one is being cut off in rather harsh answers.

 

Might be mere clumsiness, lack of being able to deal with annoying issues better, etc.

But I think it would be worth to talk about it, so to avoid future insurgencies.

No that does not send the tone of attack, that sends a tone of my frustration, I can't help if you can't see that.

 

To clarify what I meant by attacking us... attacking in the sense that you were very openly questioning moderating decisions. That can be interpreted as "attacking" us.

 

So you swearing, using caps and asking rhetorical questions like "Do you think we enjoy wasting our time on this?" is just a tone of frustration not aggression, yet openly having an opinion is 'attacking'. That there is a prime example of how biased a person can be towards favoring themselves and disregarding others.

 

Frustration towards other people isn't attacking or aggressive? Calmly explaining an opinion is? Yes I do realise I've just repeated the same thing but I'm getting my head around this.

 

You guys were attacking US on the forum and that doesn't even compare. And comparing the title of the message to someone else's "DIE DIE DIE BITCH WHORE"? Really? Oh, other than using all capitals... definitely not anywhere near the same level.

 

Is that first sentence implying that it's more appropriate to bash people in private PM's then on the forum? Hahaha! And no, I didn't 'attack' anyone, I said how I thought it was handled wrong and I made an attempt to not get too personal at you or anyone.

 

As for using capitals AND swearing in a topic title when I don't know you, it does remind me of when HBK used to send me PM's- that's all I said. So yes, really, it is indeed comparable, acting all disbelieved when I'm not being ridiculous or anything is just getting annoying. This "OMG how can you EVEN be srs?!!" is like your gig.

 

Last night you and Lore were complaining, going on and on about how the mods were not giving what you felt was appropriate detail regarding the incident, and then when I give both of you advance notice of the reason that is now posted, you're complaining about it? Seriously? I give you what you want and then you complain about me giving you what you want? And even though Nick agreed with us and said here, "Given the crazy situation it was wise. I took it the wrong way at first but see now it made perfect sense." You still disagree? mmkay...

 

SRSLY?! mmmmmkay... (Infuriating)

 

I actually said I can understand why Nick was banned, just not why it wasn't made public.

Oh god, this sis a bit too much of the board against Numbersgirl now. Not too fair, is it?

 

Wouldn't make it more sense to file last night under 'extreme', and have a general discussion about the way mods and boardies should deal with one another?

Seriously? questioning is attacking? I didn't know cping was like Cuba... or China :uhoh:

Asking a question is perfectly fine. Incessantly asking and making comments over and over again and even starting a thread about it, and continuing to ask the same questions and accusing us of being too "secretive" after we've said why we posted general reasons and would post more detail later, I think that could be construed as attacking. We don't appreciate it. As a former mod, I'm guessing you might be able to relate to that feeling.

 

 

So, as a few other people here have already indicated and understand, the situation is resolved now. Nick is back, and we explained why Nick is back and why the account was temporarily disabled in the first place (and he stated that he understood why), and why the other two accounts were permanently banned. As someone else suggested a little while ago, "let's move on, shall we?"