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Norwegian Government Bombing and Shooting (77 Dead)

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^^^ well, i'm sorry for being so curious! :disappointed:

ha, that's good to hear. i'm interested because of some persons' irritating opinion, that such acts of violence will inevitably lead to enhanced gov. surveillance and restrictive laws. could in the future be invalidated by bringing up what's happening here.

 

overall, i reckon that it's far too early to tell how much this will change your democratic understanding, isn't it.

 

are there first projections of today's elections yet? very interesting how many seats the FrP's gonna loose, etc.

 

thank you, william! :nice:

just read that the freedom party lost over 6 percent, mostly to another (far less radical) conservative party? and parliamentary elections will be in two years?

still very curious, how the more tricky immigration- problems will be handled now. i might come back on that, in a couple of weeks, shouldn't i get hold of other material.

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There's a lot less tolerence for the far right overall. But as far as I know there haven't been any restrictive lawas or whatnot.

 

Yes, FrP lost a lot of ground, mainly to Høyre (who won in my town). My party (The Green Party) are advancing slowly and gained one seat in the local parliament, so I hope they'll make it on the national stage in two years time.

Thanks for sharing, Sir! :)

 

Funny, that the greens are yet so weak. Entirely from preconception, I thought green issues would be a big topic in Scandiavia.

Has the Arbeiderpartiet addressed ecological matters a lot?

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Most welcome :nice:

 

Norway's economy is basically based around oil, so envrionmental issues come second a lot more often then in, say, Sweden, where the Green Party is one of the biggest. On the other hand, there are a few political parties with good environmental policies. Hopefully MDG will make into the parliament next election :)

Most welcome :nice:

 

Norway's economy is basically based around oil, so envrionmental issues come second a lot more often then in, say, Sweden, where the Green Party is one of the biggest. On the other hand, there are a few political parties with good environmental policies. Hopefully MDG will make into the parliament next election :)

 

Being Scottish and living in Scotland a main argument for Scottish independence (breaking away from Westminster control) is north sea oil. A lot has been said and made of Norway's oil reserves and how they really make the most of it. I don't know much about the Norwegian economy but can it be said your country is aided from not being part of the EU? Because I hear plenty from the nationalists here in Scotland about breaking away from the UK but still wanting to be part of the EU which is bizarre because for a relatively small country I think the best we could do is model ourselves as close to how Norway operates itself.

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Norway are really making the most out of the oil resources. They made a lot of good moves early on. As for the EU part, I'm 100%, but that sounds right.

Most welcome :nice:

 

Norway's economy is basically based around oil, so envrionmental issues come second a lot more often then in, say, Sweden, where the Green Party is one of the biggest. On the other hand, there are a few political parties with good environmental policies. Hopefully MDG will make into the parliament next election :)

 

Oha, I see! Thank you, William! And now for once I don't have any further questions, whoo. I'll totally come knocking again, though. :sneaky:

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Anders Behring Breivik: Norway court finds him sane

 

A Norwegian court has found that mass killer Anders Behring Breivik is sane and sentenced him to 21 years in jail.

 

Breivik admitted killing 77 people and wounding more than 240 others when he bombed central Oslo and then opened fire at an island youth camp last year.

 

He insisted he was sane and refused to plead guilty, seeking to justify his attacks by saying they were necessary to stop the "Islamisation" of Norway.

 

Prosecutors had called for him to be considered insane. The five judges were unanimous in ruling that Breivik was sane. He was convicted of terrorism and premeditated murder, and given the maximum sentence of 21 years' imprisonment.

 

However, that can be prolonged at a later date if he is deemed to remain a danger to society.

 

Delivering the verdict, Judge Wenche Elisabeth Arntzen imposed a sentence of "preventive detention," a special prison term for criminals considered dangerous to society. She set the minimum length of imprisonment to 10 years.

 

Some of the survivors and relatives of his victims welcomed the verdict and the end of the trial. "Now we won't hear about him for quite a while. Now we can have peace and quiet," Per Balch Soerensen, whose daughter was among those killed in the shootings on on Utoeya island, told Denmark's TV2. He doesn't mean anything to me; he is just air."

 

Court-appointed psychiatrists disagreed on Breivik's sanity. A first team which examined him declared him to be a paranoid schizophrenic, but the second found he was sane. Before the verdict, Breivik said psychiatric care would be "worse than death".

 

He had said he would not appeal against a sanity verdict. The prosecution, which argued for insanity, could still appeal, says the BBC's Lars Bevanger, at the court in Oslo.

 

Breivik will serve his sentence at Oslo's high-security Ila Prison, where he has been held in isolation for most of the time since his arrest. Initially he will be kept isolated from casual contact with other prisoners. Breivik, 33, carried out the meticulously planned attack on 22 July 2011, wearing a fake police uniform, and methodically hunted down his victims.

 

He accused the governing Labour Party of promoting multiculturalism and endangering Norway's identity. Some victims at the Labour Party youth camp on Utoeya island were shot in the head at point-blank range.

 

Ahead of the verdict, security barriers were put up outside the district court in Oslo. A glass partition separates Breivik from relatives of victims in a courtroom custom-built for the trial.

 

Remote-controlled cameras are filming the proceedings, sending the images to courtrooms around Norway where other relatives can watch the hearing live.

 

Breivik's trial, which began in March and lasted for 10 weeks, heard graphic testimony from some of the survivors of his attacks. Mohamad Hadi Hamed, 21, who is now in a wheelchair, told the court how his left arm and his left leg were amputated after he was shot by Breivik.

 

Another survivor, Einar Bardal, 17, described how he was trying to escape when he heard a loud bang, followed by a loud beeping noise in his head. Experts in far-right ideology told the trial Breivik's ideas should not be seen as the ramblings of a madman.

 

Breivik's attacks ignited a debate about the nature of tolerance and democracy in Norway.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19365616

And he will have 3 jail cells and a PC.

It was a premeditated massacre and he doesn't even regret it. During the proceeding he said that he regreted not killing more people.

Assuming that he will spend 21 years it means 3 months and 8 days for each person killed. He could be released after 10 years for good behaviour!

In my opinion the only good point is that the sentence "can be prolonged at a later date if he is deemed to remain a danger to society."

I hope the verdict will help victims' families to ease their pain.

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