[edit: shortened it]

 

This is the time where we all make plans what we want to do in 2012. This is an idea that came to me about a month ago, and I thought about it and just would like to know what you guys think about it, and if we should make it happen. ☺

 

I watched a video of a Charlie Brown performance from the December tour 2011, with all these wristbands and people jumping and amazing lasers, and I thought: “Wow, I’d like to see the whole concert”.

 

Coldplay are an amazing live band, they’ve got so incredible ideas (glowing bands, balloons, confetti, lasers….) and there are so many of us Coldplayers who can’t go to an concert, or who want to have something to remember this great tour.

 

To make this happen, we all could record one concert and then compile all the footage we got. This has been done before with great results, like this

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-QQrSeUku8]Radiohead Live in Praha - DVD Trailer (UPDATED) - YouTube[/ame]

 

or in the post below.

 

But I think it can become a terrible mess if you organize all that editing and all list of available footage afterwards, so I would like to do that before the concert to make sure all that runs smoothly and we can finish something like that.

 

This is just an idea that I had and of which I think would be awesome if we could do it. Something for all of us, by a lot of us. Something were people say:” Wow, that all is the work of fans ? The guys of Coldplaying have to be incredible :D”

 

I just want to hear your opinion on this, if this something cool we should make possible over the next months or if that is just too much fuss and you are satisfied with youtube videos or some afterwards planning.

 

Wish you all a happy New Year !

 

dreamorlife

Great idea! I did a similar thing with Hurts Like Heaven in Ahoy Rotterdam last month.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7CL6DacwKw]Coldplay - MX / Hurts Like Heaven [Ahoy Rotterdam, The Nederlands, 17-12-11] [Multi-shot] - YouTube[/ame]

Amazing work! Great idea and I´d love to see it in a cupple of time :)

And I´m sure, Coldplay will love it ! :)

I think it would be cool! But, I don't think I'd be a very good cameraman...I tend to do a lot of jumping around during coldplay shows! ;)

I would love to help editing. I kinda had the same thing during Christmas. The biggest obstacle, I think, is selecting which footage to use during particular songs while maintaining the idea you're watching the same concert. And the audio has to be on an acceptable level the whole time of course, which can be hard if you use Youtube vids.

 

But it's definitely worth a try!

That sounds like a fantastic idea! It would be great to have some HD footage of Coldplay concerts.

Sounds great! :)

The best situation would be of course to have somebody who could tape the audio, then we'd have a better quality than just the camera audio.

 

But it's cool to see that there are quite some people interested, makes me really hopeful and excited :)

it sounds amazing! I would love to see such a video! ; )

We did a mutlicam for a U2 concert last year. it's important that all participants use the same camera settings (resulution, picture size).

 

someone posted his address and everybody send him his material. You should also make lists before the concert saying who films which songs to make sure that there is material of every song, as it's really hard to cut a movie if you only have 2 or 3 different views...

 

after the mutlicam was made we uploaded it as torrent and on youtube and also printed it as an DVD and sent it to the people of our forum.

 

i'm sure the band is okay with it, as long as nobody makes money out of it! :)

 

this was the result of our work.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TcwRbyapOc]U2 - Where The Streets Have No Name (Frankfurt 2010) -MULTICAM DRAFT- - YouTube[/ame]

^Hillman, what a great job! I think this is a terrific idea and I'm sorry I have no way to help out. I've no camera nor talent. As Hillman says, to get quality worth watching, I think you'd have to do a lot of work upfront in the planning stage. I, for one, would be eternally grateful to those who made this happen. :)

Does the Coldplaying.com Forum has own money to spend us tickets? :smug::D

Then we can create a plan of where the cameras are at and the easiest way to do this is to use an iPhone 4 or iPhone 4s (4s is better because of Full-HD video camera) and the quality is quiet brilliant!

 

 

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice projekt! :)

@ hillman Wow, that looks incredible. Exactly what I meant ;)

 

I'm a fool not to make this poll public to see who could help :D

 

Anyway, anyone ideas how we continue ?

Waiting till the first dates of the tour or a group or whatever ?

I'm all for this. I can't say I'm up for the editing proccess since it requires a better computer than mine to deal with huge HD videos, but I sure can provide help and feedback. Moreover, I will be at the Madrid show, and I will record it in audio and hopefully video too (at least some songs). I can't guarantee cristal clear recording as I'm not a taper but a fan, but it's something :)

I'll be at the Chicago show on August 7th! (Soooo far awaaaaay....) I also have a Macbook Pro, and can help with the editing process! :D

I can support that project on September, on the Munich-Gig...

I don´t have enough money for more gigs :/

Great project!

 

I will do everything I can to help. I will be at the concert in the Hague, Netherlands :cool:.

I would love to see a Coldplay concert recorded by the fans, that could be awesome!

But I can't bring help because I will not see Coldplay live this year (unless there are exceptional changes) and I don't have editing skills!

Great idea!

I will try to record the Copenhagen show next year! (28th August)

I'm going to go see them, but I don't know if they'll let cameras in though. I'll check it out. Also, I guess at least each song has to be from the same concert, but would the whole concert have to be? They wear the same uniforms each show I think, so there wouldn't be to many continuity errors I think.

 

But I've never done this, so I don't know how. But I am interested!

That I think is the question, if we record one whole concert or if we collect various songs from various shows and then put it all together.

 

And I think I was a bit early with that idea, until the start of the tour is quite a bit of waiting still :D

 

Just don't let this thread die and become so unpopular that we have to dig it out from page 20 or so :D

@ Cheese Nip 2:

Digicams are allowed. DSLR cams for example aren't. Also camcorders aren'T allowed but I never had a problem getting one in and film when I had seats and enough people were around me.

 

@ dreamorlife: Personally I'd appreciate a multicam dedicated to one concert only, and not a mix of various concerts. But that's just my opinion.

 

 

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Great timing as I planned to post something about multicam projects here, too.

 

I will see Coldplay twice next year (Cologne - FOS and Munich - stands) and plan to film Munich completely in HD as my seat is right at the balcony in the middle of the block, so no people should be in front of me ;).

I also plan (nothing concrete!) to record audio in Munich, either audience or IEM if I can make it work - and afford it.

 

I don't intend to play the big boss here but can contribute lots of experience how to (best) organize such a thing. Frankly, I did exactly this with the U2 360° Tour when they played in Europe in 2010, and also participated in a rather advanced project for U2's Anaheim concerts last year.

The best thing to make this happen is when some people devote themselves to filming something so there's a starting point. A second step can be done by asking youtube users to upload their original raw video files to a site like megaupload.com in order to keep the high quality of the videos.

 

So here's just a suggestion how this could be done:

 

- Create a list (US-leg, Europe-Leg) which looks (for example) like this

 

2010-08-10 Frankfurt, Germany - Commerzbank Arena

- possible editor(s): loftarasa

 

- recording:

loftarasa (some songs - GA - HD-video)

mastro (some songs - GA - HD-video)

evil_bono (some songs - GA - HD-video)

schneelein (some songs - GA - HD-video)

equality (some songs - seated - HD-video)

red rocks (some songs - seated - HD-video)

maihkel (some songs/complete - seated - HD-video)

...

 

2010-09-11 Zurich, Switzerland - Letzigrund Stadion

- possible editor(s): achtungpop

 

- recording:

loftarasa (some songs - GA - HD-video)

BonoVox93 (some songs - GA - HD-video)

schneelein (some songs - GA - HD-video)

achtungpop (some songs like SBS, Pride,One... - seated - HD-video)

achtungbaby_01 (some songs - seated - HD-video)

 

...

 

 

^^ People just post in the thread where, what, how much they could contribute and someone takes care of the list and updates it. After the concert the editor of the multicam will contact the people from his concert list and tell them what to do with the files (torrent them, upload them, snail mail them, FTP...)

 

I don't know if there are audio tapers out there who would tape AND share their audio for the multicam project/generally. An audio is always the source it all depends on (in my opinion) because it's not so much fun to have audio quality changes between or even in songs.

 

However, I highly, highly recommend that the people who edit only use HD-sourced video files from "real" HD camcorders/digicams. IPhone-HD-videos might be HD but you can tell the difference to a camcorder. But sometimes/often you gotta use them, too, for the benefit of the concert experience. This means do not download videos off youtube unless you really, really need it and can life with it (and if the user doesn't reply to your messages). The HD-videos might be OK if it's a wide angle but not if it zooms in (I edited 6 multicam concerts of U2's 360° Tour and never used youtube-rips but only original video files).

 

As for equipment:

If you plan to buy a digicam for concerts that can film HD-videos, make sure to buy one that has an Exmor Sensor. This avoids those annoying "lines" in videos when you record against a spotlight and you also won't have overexposed faces (aka "attack of the snowman")

--> [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIcDu1NFfZ0]U2 - Beautiful Day (Helsinki II 2010) -MULTICAM DRAFT- - YouTube[/ame]

0:07, 0:40, 3:48 = attack of the snowman

1:52 = annoying lines (tho they are thin here)

 

^^ The main rail videos used in this mix were recorded with a Lumix TZ 7 which doesn't have this sensor. Depending on light you have those problems.

If you have this camera (all the Lumix are great, and I think the latest model might even have the sensor), you might try the settings posted in the description of this video to have a better image: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbUplfqX4E]PEARL JAM *NO WAY* PJ20 night 2 @ Alpine Valley 9/4/2011 HD - YouTube[/ame]

 

 

If you plan to buy a digicam, I recommend, for example, the Sony Cybershot hx9v. I filmed this video with EV set to -1,7 I think:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_45zZAQIQ0]Coldplay - Us Against The World (2011-12-20 - Frankfurt) - YouTube[/ame]

I like it a lot. The only bad thing is that the zoom sometimes "hops" and that it might lose the focus if it's rather dark.

 

 

On a side note how an almost perfectly organized multicam effort can look like, have a look at this:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiUz0MqeoE]U2 Anaheim june 18 2011 part 01 EBTTRT - The Fly - Mysterious Ways - YouTube[/ame]

^^ All the GA cameras except 3 (I think) were Sony Cybershot hx9v ones which also used the same video settings. The wide angle was a HD camcorder. The audio is an IEM-Audience matrix (the audio in the youtube video is not the final mix).

What we did was sorta planning where'd we stand during the concert to have different camera positions and we agreed on some main focuses, eg the person who'd stand on Edge's side would focus on some guitar or face close ups so the person in the middle could take care of Bono or Larry ....stuff like this.

When you compare this multicam to the Beautiful Day-multicam I posted above you can see the difference in video quality which is rather amazing.

Such an organization kills the concert feeling of course. The people who filmed the whole concert really sacrificed the concert experience for as nice and as stable shots as possible so everybody who says "yes I'd like to help" should keep in mind that when you film, try to hold your camera still, shaky footage is no fun to look at except for a few seconds when it's approbiate for the video, so to speak ;).

 

 

Btw (if you haven't heard about it yet) I'd like to inform you that there's a Coldplay Paris-Multicam in the works:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OvRhsZn-08]Coldplay - lost ! - Paris bercy 14 Decembre 2011 Multicam preview - YouTube[/ame]

As far as I know this one was at least partly organized. The audio provided is an IEM-Audience mix or dub - as far as I know.

 

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If no one else wants to do it I'd raise my hand for editing a Munich multicam as I am planning to film it completely. Maybe also audio but as already said, I'm not sure about this yet coz the equipment is rather expensive - I just have a recording device but no IEM receiver nor microphone(s) as I just recently decided to make myself familiar with audio taping. If no good audio bootleg pops up we'd have to live with the audio of the camera.

 

If you have questions regarding cams or settings I can offer some kind of advice based on my experiences.

I also 1-2 cams left if someone doesnt have a cam but wants to film for the project ;).

*Pump*

I would, of course, support it! ;)

 

2012-09-12 Munich, Germany - Olympiastadion

- possible editor(s): loftarasa

 

- recording:

loftarasa (full show - seats, 1 row - HD-video)

hillman (some songs - GA, FOS - HD-video)

...

@loftarasa Very interesting story and I really enjoyed some of your examples. It also shows that it takes a good preparation to do this thing properly.

 

Still offering my help to edit. Have plenty of experience of Final Cut Pro on my MacBook Pro. I don't think I will be able to record something, the only camera that comes close to HD is the one on my phone but it's still not good enough. And my next Coldplay gig is in september in The Hague (Holland), so still far away.