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Did anyone win tickets to this through coldplay.com? I didn't receive an email so guessing i wasn't lucky enough, but if someone has a ticket that's not being used - i'm a huge fan and show a lot of enthusiasm - case in point - John Mayer @ Ed Sullivan Theater in 2009 I'm the Indian guy that's playing air keyboard, plus really getting into the song like a fool - so much fun, I need to see coldplay in this venue - it's great. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-wd7i2tmgM]John Mayer - Live on Letterman[11/19/09] - 7. Waiting on the World to Change - YouTube[/ame] (around 1:30) - great concert, and great musician

Reilly - if you consider that music in the same vein as other genres - more power to you - frankly if coldplay came up with "music" like that - there would be armageddon amongst the rank and file - listening to that track, wow... that's exactly my point. and no i don't just listen to Jay Z and Lil Wayne, if you've seen previous posts I mentioned Mos def, and look I don't consider it musically creative - it's spoken word if anything, and oft times unintelligible perhaps on purpose. I've listened to Pharaoe Monche, Jurassic 5, Common - they have decent lyrics but still I feel it's not creative musically, bc it's not something they innately created but have sampled or looped. Perhaps it's a technicality but that's how I view things. And your video proves my point for me. thanks

Nangolan - Embarrassing? really - paradise is a really good song - i've had people who don't normally listen to Coldplay or even know who they are - listen to that track and were really impressed by the track (also played them old coldplay, and they loved those songs too. Actually, they were amazed that a band that sounded like old coldplay could sound like Paradise and gave Coldplay credit for not being rehashing the same sound over and over again.) And some of these people use to be haters of coldplay. So i don't think it's an embarrassing song at all. It's going to be huge live, and frankly I hope PH and the rest realize this, and not alter it just because people don't like the para para part.

Agree about the girl and hype williams (not happy about him directing, actually Mat Whitcross has been excellent for them, wish they would get someone like him - will hold out hope for a great video).

Wow - she's gorgeous and totally could see her being the girl worth fighting for and being heartbroken over. I'd fight for her in an oppressive world, and totally would feel much better if she come from the light to tell me it's all right (etiaw reference for the lovers and the haters). can't wait for the video, this song is amazing and hopefully Hype williams won't mess this one up like he did for Viva (which was not that great in my opinion compared to Lovers in Japan). Please be good if not great (hopefully it ties in with ETIAW visually as well, or at least thematically).

I don't think samples are bad but when it becomes the underlying source of your music then it becomes trite and not creative music. but then again techno is like that too - which is great for the fans of techno but at the end of the day it's repetitive. To be fair, I really like Kanye's work as he tries to mesh many different genres of music, and though he samples, he also creates his own music - Dark Twisted Fantasy is quite the exception from the hip/hop genre in terms of musical creativity. I really like what he is doing with the genre and giving it more credibility than other people in the hip/hop world. As for the f'ing ho's - sorry, didn't mean all of them do - but it's a tragedy for a heritage of music that arises from such great music as Motown, Sam Cooke, Jazz that we get a very harsh, uncreative offspring of music that denigrates people for the majority of the time. But, honestly, there's not at least one track on a hip hop album in the last 10 to 20 years where there isn't violence, or denigration of others, or bragging how great they are, and everyone else are not.

Escapist - I hear you about reserving judgment which I'll do with Up in Flames - but very underwhelmed so far comparing it to See You Soon or For you in terms that a contingent of Coldplay fans who long for old coldplay are heaping praise on it though it doesn't sound amazing as those songs mentioned. As for Paradise, have to disagree with you about it being the weakest link, it's an amazing song, and will do well at least live if not on the charts. Both ETIAW and Paradise have been excellent singles and am glad they decided to release Paradise rather than CB (which I like but think it's repetitive in its musical ideas (essentially Jonny's riff repeating itself - love the piano outro to it though, which I think makes the song even better). I think hardcore oldschool Coldplay fans will have to listen to the entire album/story to appreciate Paradise but on its own, it's grand, glorious, and Coldplay going into the stratosphere or outer space. I wouldn't be surprised if astronauts played this while flying into space, it's that grand.

What's up with the lag, i click once, and it double posts - lot of traffic with Up in Flames being played i guess (ok song so far, nothing special, but not as good as Paradise, ETIAW, and the rest of tracks we've heard so far). Listening to See you soon and For you - that's quality old school Coldplay.

Look - I think modern rap is pretty much crap, as for old school there is quality stuff - but i don't consider it creative musically bc it just uses samples and beats just looped over somebody speaking (not singing) a bunch of phrases that may or may not make sense. Not music, but some call it music. Sam Cooke - now that's music - classic. Mos Def is good, but overall don't feel it's music like rock and roll and other genres. Your Madvillians is a perfect example of the musical creativity of rap - it's just a bunch of samples looped over and over again. Not hard to do compared to actually coming up with riffs, chord structure, a vocal melody, etc. Modern day rap is not music in terms of composition of new music (e.g. ideas, motifs, etc.) compared to other genres out there. thanks for pointing that out with your example.

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Umm... See you soon is one of my all time favorites from "old" Coldplay - this is no See You Soon - actually very underwhelming and for all the hypocrisy about repetitive lyrics - are you kidding me? He's singing Up in Flames at least 20 times and it's simplicity doesn't add to its greatness like See You Soon, or For You which is another all time favorite from that era. I do feel like it's Emperor Has no clothes phenomenon with fans of old Coldplay though, songs that are supposedly so stripped down but really sound like any other folk singer in a bar suddenly get adulation simply for being stripped down even though the song is repetitive as hell, and doesn't have much more than Will on a clap track, and one or two chords on the piano, and lyrics repeating itself. I'll reserve full judgment till the studio version, but for now, not believing the hype (and I usually trust Will, but then again he thought Clocks was crap) - but I think Paradise is way better and much more interesting musically than this even with the simplicity factored in. Can't hear Jonny's gorgeous riff (perhaps the slide guitar at the end) but man, not a great track so far compared to all the others released (it was written quickly, right?, before the Itunes Festival). Anyway, hopefully it gets better production value on the studio track. I'll give Coldplay the benefit of the doubt - right now, though Paradise, ETIAW, MM, HLH, CB, and UATW are definitely better than this track.

admnistramation - Rap isn't music in the traditional sense - one the lyrics mostly focus on either f'ing some ho, or having done so many times over, or how much bling/jewelry/cash/money/more hos/cars, or how they're the greatest and everyone else sucks, yada yada yada... in the traditional sense of actually creating the music - most times it's a looped beat or some heavily sampled creation. Practically every Jay-Z song that's actually a hit song or popular takes a riff from somewhere else, and plays it over and over again with him rapping about aforementioned subjects. Now that's what I call music vol. 542 Interestingly, Lou Reed who asked at a MTV awards what happened to playing enough real music like rock and roll (implying MTV focuses too much on rap), and perhaps Noel Gallagher knew that rap isn't real creative music if u need to borrow so much for every one of your songs (esp. your hit ones)) when he commented about Jay-Z headlining Glastonbury. Hey even Dylan mentioned it too - but what do Lou Reed, Dylan, or even Gallagher know about music...

love both songs - i'll admit took about 2 to 3 listens before i was hooked and amazed how awesome the new sound is - it's like their maturing beyond just simple acoustic and basic instruments. Paradise with a good pair of headphones on transports you to another realm or just a higher sense of feeling/being. Can't wait to hear it live - I think it's equally worthy to Viva La Vida after digesting it for a few days - it's epic, it's got that catchy hook, and that synth fuzz bass dropping out of nowhere just blasts the song into the stratosphere after the ethereal enoxification and dav rossi strings intros the song - God, these guys are getting better and better. ETIAW is amazing too - love jonny's riff, the melody, the lyrics, and overall buildup... two amazing songs and more to come... can't wait.

Yeah - u're right - it's like a slowed down version of the same kind of harmony and rhythm - agree with you.

lazy sunday by SNL's Andy Samberg, case in point.

rock, playing your own instruments while singing (which is hard to do itself) >>>>>>>>>>> rap (no contest)

I don't care if Kanye, Jay-Z, Drake, Blake, Bizzy-B are the best MC's, AC's, CD's, MD's, for that matter out there - what do they do? they speak not sing words about the stupidest things out there - and then people actually buy that crap - look at Otis by Kanye and Jay-Z, what are they "rapping or MC'ing" about - nothing except how great they are - who cares? and they use an Otis Redding sample (a true musician/artist) to give them credibility. Rap is crap, it adds nothing to the art of music except who can find the next hot sample (i.e. someone else's creative work) and speak a bunch of words over them, and sell the song to the dumb masses. Look at the hot 100 billboard over the last decade and a half - really great and worthy songs are no longer tops in the chart - it's always some collaboration btwn Jay-Z or Kanye with some other bubble gum popstar or some other rapper. It's stupid - it's the downfall of music. Jay Z reversing Forever Young into Young Forever was another low point - yeah he's a genius for that (I couldn't believe Jonny thought Jay-Z was a genius for his verse on Lost, and just in general). - I agreed with Noel Gallagher - what is Jay-Z (and Beyonce for that matter) doing at Glastonbury - if you can't play an instrument or play your own music, or at least create it then take that crap elsewhere. I don't understand Coldplay's fascination with these "hip-hop" entertainers - they're not musicians, not creating the music or even playing instruments. they're just arrogant people who have the audacity to go out and sing about how great they are when they can't even play an instrument. it makes no sense. I fear more collaborations with hip hop and Beyonce and company in the future. Good lord...

I don't care if Kanye, Jay-Z, Drake, Blake, Bizzy-B are the best MC's, AC's, CD's, MD's, for that matter out there - what do they do? they speak not sing words about the stupidest things out there - and then people actually buy that crap - look at Otis by Kanye and Jay-Z, what are they "rapping or MC'ing" about - nothing except how great they are - who cares? and they use an Otis Redding sample (a true musician/artist) to give them credibility. Rap is crap, it adds nothing to the art of music except who can find the next hot sample (i.e. someone else's creative work) and speak a bunch of words over them, and sell the song to the dumb masses. Look at the hot 100 billboard over the last decade and a half - really great and worthy songs are no longer tops in the chart - it's always some collaboration btwn Jay-Z or Kanye with some other bubble gum popstar or some other rapper. It's stupid - it's the downfall of music. Jay Z reversing Forever Young into Young Forever was another low point - yeah he's a genius for that (I couldn't believe Jonny thought Jay-Z was a genius for his verse on Lost, and just in general). - I agreed with Noel Gallagher - what is Jay-Z (and Beyonce for that matter) doing at Glastonbury - if you can't play an instrument or play your own music, or at least create it then take that crap elsewhere. I don't understand Coldplay's fascination with these "hip-hop" entertainers - they're not musicians, not creating the music or even playing instruments. they're just arrogant people who have the audacity to go out and sing about how great they are when they can't even play an instrument. it makes no sense. I fear more collaborations with hip hop and Beyonce and company in the future. Good lord...

Old fan here - Pre Parachutes days to boot - Love the new direction, and the new songs esp. ETIAW, Paradise, MM, HLH, MX, CB, UATW - still reserving judgment about POC. But am glad Coldplay is changing and evolving their sound into different realms, would have been disappointed if they kept rehashing the same sound and song ideas - very thankful for Eno pushing them into other creative spaces - his influence and contribution really add to the song - love the ethereal ambient sounds he's clearly added to the songs released so far. Can't wait to hear the rest of the album Viva La Coldplay - Now the old coldplay is dead, long live the coldplay... j/k love past and present Coldplay...

No one is trying to like it, u either do or u don't - I like it, took me 2 to 3 listens on a good pair of headphones and man - it's epic, it's like an evolution of their sound but has some trademark Coldplay traits - that fuzz bass kicking after the nice synth/string intro is something else. Again,i am not trying to like it, liked both ETIAW, Paradise, and the rest of the songs - and for the record, i'm an old school Coldplay fan - love For You (one of my favorites from the Pre-parachutes era as well as Animals from AROBTTH) these 4 guys are amazing, and am thankful they are producing great music to this day. Viva La Coldplay!

listened to it again, could barely hear them... but it doesn't even sound like they're there for that long, maybe a few seconds at most - it's almost like they forgot to take the part out of the mix, and some of it snuck in - will have to ask the oracle about that as we do have video of them recording that part. But I hear it very briefly for a few seconds...

I know - it's amazing to come to these boards after a single drops - I'm not a fan that follows and thinks everything is good, but man - Coldplay has never failed me (I'm listening now, and it's such an amazing song - it's so grand and uplifting, love Eno's influence, la la ,la la, so lying underneath a stormy skies... and then boom... para para paradise. Damn! that's awesome and then the layering of the oh's and the strings. And the outro - a la Glass of Water.... Wow, sorry - just have been listening to an amazing song, despite the naysayers). But to get back to my point, everytime I've heard most new Coldplay songs (ETIAW, and the new songs live for this era), I'm not sure if it's going to be a hit or good, honestly I wasn't a instant fan of ETIAW initially, but then it just clicked and everything is amazing, the opening synth, the chords, they lyrics, and the pace of it... wow. And the new songs - HLH, MM I did not like initially, but now love, they're amazing. Liked CB initially bc of the riff, but then thought it was too simple, plain, but after hearing the studio version love it especially with the piano outro. I applaud Coldplay for going into other directions, and expanding their sound and not being afraid - Eno forces them to be creative, but I feel like they make sure they like it before they put it out for the public and the fans. Can't wait to hear the other tracks, but I think this album is going to be even better than the previous one which was amazing, and one of my favorites (btw, love all of their albums and how different each sounds from the other). Viva La Coldplay!

Not a big fan of Chris's exuberance and adulation of Beyonce and Jay-Z, let alone Rhianna - to be frank - their music is unoriginal or produced wholly by someone else, and manufactured to sell albums not for the sake of art - and top it off they're arrogant about it - e.g. Beyonce stating that Kanye was just defending art when he interrupted Taylor's speech at the MTV VMA's - Beyonce's music... art!?? Give me a break - it's crap rap or R and BS to sell albums. Don't get me started on Jay-Z - without the music or samples - he's just a guy rapping (i.e. not singing) about money, chicks, being awesome, and how everyone else sucks, more bling, - it's entertainment for the lowest common denominator - and to hear Jonny and Chris extol these "artists" esp. Beyonce and Jay-Z is a disgrace, and utter brainwashing (perhaps thanks to Gwyneth). For the Brits out there, I am Indian, and I've always thought the best music to come out in the last 100 years has been from the UK/Ireland - what is up with Coldplay not believing in themselves, and thinking Jay-Z, Beyonce, or Rhianna (who are entertainers, not musicians or artists) are the greatest thing since sliced bread? It boggles the mind. I shudder to think about the future collaborations in the R/B and hip hop world (that music is pretty much crap, R/B from the 50s, 60s, and 70s was much better in terms of quality, and content to be fair).

At first listen wasn't sure - but then again listened it through a crappy computer speaker at work - but when I used a nice pair of headphones (P5 Bowers and Wilkins for the 'philes) - Wow! There is so much going on and it's glorious - the synth strings, and that blazing fuzz bass is incredible - and at first wasn't too sure about the lyrical melody or his choice of words, but it is catchy as hell - can't get it out of my head. Also, like the dubstep influence where the strings kind of stopped very briefly and keeps growing, gets mellow and then boom! Beautiful - it's amped up Coldplay ethereal gloriousness. Love the first interlude after the verse - this is going to epic live. People are hating now, but watch it will be a favorite for sure. Impressed.

Mylo Xyloto is ambiguous - well there u have it - art is up to the interpreter, and they ran with it like the word Google (which they mentioned was made up and became part of our culture - and perhaps MX will too). Can't wait to hear the rest of the album.