Well why havent you pointed out the atrocities that Hisbollah have commited?

 

I haven't heard of any... in this conflict anyways.

Well why havent you pointed out the atrocities that Hisbollah have commited?

 

The world seem's to think only Lebanon has paid a heavy price for the war.

I haven't heard of any... in this conflict anyways.

 

Are you serious? They kidnapped people, killed innocent civilians for no reason. Is it only a bad thing when it happens to non jewish people? They even started the whole damn thing out of hatred for Israel.

Are you serious? They kidnapped people' date=' killed innocent civilians for no reason. Is it only a bad thing when it happens to non jewish people? They even started the whole damn thing out of hatred for Israel.[/quote']

 

Citations, please.

Citations' date=' please.[/quote']

 

Have you not watched the news?

 

One of the Hezbollah rockets hit a railway depot, killing at least eight and wounding 17 others -- six of them seriously -- Israeli medical services said.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/16/mideast/index.html

 

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/16/D8ISVDQ00.html

 

many innocent Israeli's have been killed. Let us not forget who was attacked first.

The second article's 15 days old, but it shows the disproportionality of the whole thing.

 

"In all, 33 people were killed in Lebanon on Saturday, police said. That raised the Lebanese death toll in the four-day Israeli offensive to 106, mostly civilians. On the Israeli side, at least 15 have been killed, four civilians and 11 soldiers."

 

106 - 15... that's over 7:1.

Actually, both of the articles are from July 16... :dozey:

I haven't heard of any... in this conflict anyways.

 

 

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that's all i have to say...

maybe u should look up your news on differen places, and not only from one source. You'reobviously missing alot of information.

 

everyday the hizballa launches 100 missles to Haifa, which is a very very major city in israel, and other villages in the north. The only reason there were less casualties on israel's side is simply because we have better shelter not because they attack us less.

The second article's 15 days old, but it shows the disproportionality of the whole thing.

 

"In all, 33 people were killed in Lebanon on Saturday, police said. That raised the Lebanese death toll in the four-day Israeli offensive to 106, mostly civilians. On the Israeli side, at least 15 have been killed, four civilians and 11 soldiers."

 

106 - 15... that's over 7:1.

 

Yes but they arer both about the current war. And since then many more have died on BOTH sides. People dont realize Israel is losing innocent people too, just not as much because they are not the underdogs. But anyways Lebanon had a chance to flourish like most of the middle does, but they wasted it on Radical terrorist views and trying to destroy Israel. Nothing good will ever come their way until they realize they need to start building rather then destroying. They should have been focusing on school's and university's and culture and economics. But until the day these middle eastern countries do that, they will suffer.

I haven't heard of any... in this conflict anyways.

 

Well your just a kid. You havent experianced the past. I remember a time when every week there seemed to be a suicide Bomb in Israel either by Hamas or Hisbollah. They've killed hundreds maybe thousands of Isreali civillians in the past. Hence why Israel are now determined to get rid of Hisbollah. To prevent future Israeli deaths. If Hisbollah choose to fight in Civillians areas then civillians will get killed.

The second article's 15 days old, but it shows the disproportionality of the whole thing.

 

"In all, 33 people were killed in Lebanon on Saturday, police said. That raised the Lebanese death toll in the four-day Israeli offensive to 106, mostly civilians. On the Israeli side, at least 15 have been killed, four civilians and 11 soldiers."

 

106 - 15... that's over 7:1.

 

relative loss has nothing to do with it. We only get less casualties because we have better shelter, that doesnt change the fact that ppl are killed and that they attack us alooooot.

 

up till now i think we're at about 50-60 casualties. I dont know what the exact number is.

Well your just a kid. You havent experianced the past. I remember a time when every week there seemed to be a suicide Bomb in Israel either by Hamas or Hisbollah. They've killed hundreds maybe thousands of Isreali civillians in the past. Hence why Israel are now determined to get rid of Hisbollah. To prevent future Israeli deaths. If Hisbollah choose to fight in Civillians areas then civillians will get killed.

 

Well said.

 

Hezbollah tries to get its own lebanese killed to hurt Israel. There is one side trying to get innocent people killed on both side and thats Hezobollah.

Well your just a kid. You havent experianced the past. I remember a time when every week there seemed to be a suicide Bomb in Israel either by Hamas or Hisbollah. They've killed hundreds maybe thousands of Isreali civillians in the past. Hence why Israel are now determined to get rid of Hisbollah. To prevent future Israeli deaths. If Hisbollah choose to fight in Civillians areas then civillians will get killed.

 

thousands. Every year, on memorial day channel 33 here broadcasts the names of all the israeli civilians that were killed at war. It's thousands.

 

on March, 2002 over 100 ppl were killed in suicide bombings, just in march. That was the most horrible year of my life....

Yes but they arer both about the current war. And since then many more have died on BOTH sides. People dont realize Israel is losing innocent people too' date=' just not as much because they are not the underdogs. But anyways Lebanon had a chance to flourish like most of the middle does, but they wasted it on Radical terrorist views and trying to destroy Israel. Nothing good will ever come their way until they realize they need to start building rather then destroying. They should have been focusing on school's and university's and culture and economics. But until the day these middle eastern countries do that, they will suffer.[/quote']

 

Yes but Lebabon is a democratic socitey and hisbollah won enough votes to get them to part of the governent.

 

Even the Lebanonese Government didnt want Hisbollah in it.

 

Unfortunalty Hisbollah wanted to go to war with Israel and dragged the rest of Lebabon into the current conflict.

 

Its a real shame, Lebabon had been doing loads to improve its imagine abroad then Hisbollah had to throw all that progress out the window.

oh, and many ppl forget to mention the fact that hizballa launched a missle at an arab village in israel and 2 little ARAB kids were killed...

 

and you're telling me hizballa wants the best for the palestinians?? U've gotta be kidding me...

 

and u know who they blamed for the 2 kids getting killed?

Israel, of course. For not having an alarm system in Nazerath. That's just being blind...

They should have been focusing on school's and university's and culture and economics. But until the day these middle eastern countries do that' date=' they will suffer.[/quote']

 

I agree with that entirely. Just look at how much Dubai and the UAE are flourishing under immense oil profits.

 

As for using citizens as shields, I think this whole thing is blown way out of proportion. Israel's just being very indiscriminant about what and where they attack.

Let us not forget who was attacked first.

 

Yes, and it wasn't Isreal. REMEMBER THAT.

 

This notion that Isreal had soldiers taken and this started the whole thing is a BIG FAT LIE.

 

Those soldiers were taken within Lebanon while illegally crossing the border.

 

THIS WAS IN THE NEWS BEFORE THIS CONFLICT STARTED

 

 

These attcks on innocent people is on purpose.....it's all about creating so much hate by killing SO many innocent people and waiting for some other regional country to get involved (IRAN) - then they can call more people "Terrorists" - thus 'justiying' this bloody action.

Yes but Lebabon is a democratic socitey and hisbollah won enough votes to get them to part of the governent.

 

Even the Lebanonese Government didnt want Hisbollah in it.

 

Unfortunalty Hisbollah wanted to go to war with Israel and dragged the rest of Lebabon into the current conflict.

 

Its a real shame, Lebabon had been doing loads to improve its imagine abroad then Hisbollah had to throw all that progress out the window.

 

well, i cant believe they even voted for fanatics like the ppl who ran the hizballa. I dont believe that if hizballa was chosen there were really democratic elections. Only the kind of election where ppl are afraid to vote otherwise, so elect the strong terror group.

 

that's what happenned with hitler (not that i'm comparing ot anything, but it's also like that in many other "democracies" around the globe)

well, i cant believe they even voted for fanatics like the ppl who ran the hizballa. I dont believe that if hizballa was chosen there were really democratic elections. Only the kind of election where ppl are afraid to vote otherwise, so elect the strong terror group.

 

that's what happenned with hitler (not that i'm comparing ot anything, but it's also like that in many other "democracies" around the globe)

 

Actually Hitler didn't terrorize anyone into voting for him. He was such a charismatic leader that he was easily able to obtain the majority of the vote.

 

Not that I'm saying what he did was right, but that's what comes when you spread democracy through parts of the world like that. Hamas also comes to mind.

I agree with that entirely. Just look at how much Dubai and the UAE are flourishing under immense oil profits.

 

As for using citizens as shields, I think this whole thing is blown way out of proportion. Israel's just being very indiscriminant about what and where they attack.

 

Well I've seen the tv pictures for myself. Clearly show something being fired from the Qana. Hence Israel attacked the town and we all know what happened.

 

Lebabonese civillians are dying because Hisbollah choose to fight among them.

Yes, and it wasn't Isreal. REMEMBER THAT.

 

This notion that Isreal had soldiers taken and this started the whole thing is a BIG FAT LIE.

 

Those soldiers were taken within Lebanon while illegally crossing the border.

 

THIS WAS IN THE NEWS BEFORE THIS CONFLICT STARTED

 

 

These attcks on innocent people is on purpose.....it's all about creating so much hate by killing SO many innocent people and waiting for some other regional country to get involved (IRAN) - then they can call more people "Terrorists" - thus 'justiying' this bloody action.

 

believe whatever u want, even though i disagree with u

 

but playing the "but u started this" game is just too childish when we're actually talking about grown adults that are suppose to be running countries...

well, i cant believe they even voted for fanatics like the ppl who ran the hizballa. I dont believe that if hizballa was chosen there were really democratic elections. Only the kind of election where ppl are afraid to vote otherwise, so elect the strong terror group.

 

that's what happenned with hitler (not that i'm comparing ot anything, but it's also like that in many other "democracies" around the globe)

 

of course it could have been democratic elections.

 

the german people voted in Hitler and the nazis in a democratic election. they saw them as a way to end the suffering that they were enduring as a result of the sanctions put into place after World War I. it was only once they were in power that Germany became a dictatorship.

 

If the Lebanese saw having Hesbollah on their government as a way to make their lives better then they could quite easily have voted for them. exactly the same way that people in the Uk vote for the British National Party. They believe that those people will bring about a better way of life for them and their families.

of course it could have been democratic elections.

 

the german people voted in Hitler and the nazis in a democratic election. they saw them as a way to end the suffering that they were enduring as a result of the sanctions put into place after World War I. it was only once they were in power that Germany became a dictatorship.

 

If the Lebanese saw having Hesbollah on their government as a way to make their lives better then they could quite easily have voted for them. exactly the same way that people in the Uk vote for the British National Party. They believe that those people will bring about a better way of life for them and their families.

i dont think a political party can get 95% of the votes or even more and u could call it a democratic election. Clearly something was done...

Well theres alot of support in south Lebabon for Hisbollah - the same part of the country that Israel occupied for 20 years. There not as popular nationally and hence why they didnt gain a more important role in the government. As far as i know Hisbollah and Hamas do a lot of local community work - most of it is actually good but its all aimed at gaining support and money. Thats why people vote them. They do nice things at local level.

i dont think a political party can get 95% of the votes or even more and u could call it a democratic election. Clearly something was done...

 

In 1984 Ronald Reagan won 525 - 13 in electoral votes... even though the popular was ~60 - ~40...