July 29, 200620 yr ok, offer me a sollution give me a raional sollution that would stop the attacks. The Palestinians get back Jerusalem as a capital and I will not say Palestinians make a country and Israelians make acountry I will say the both of them live together on the same land
July 29, 200620 yr we do live together in the same country. They dont accept us, they want us out and thats why they keep attacking the only way to stop the war, as i see it, is by the destruction of israel, and that aint gonna happen. ] so this really does feel like a dead end situation. :(
July 29, 200620 yr what are u implying? When Israel established on occupied land it was wrong so the nationality which came from the Israel state became wrong to
July 29, 200620 yr When Israel established on occupied land it was wrong so the nationality which came from the Israel state became wrong to what do u mean? how can a nationality be "wrong"?
July 29, 200620 yr we do live together in the same country. They dont accept us, they want us out and thats why they keep attacking the only way to stop the war, as i see it, is by the destruction of israel, and that aint gonna happen. ] so this really does feel like a dead end situation. :( No,they still attacking Israel because they still didn't get back what was stolen since 1948 If they get back Jeursalem I'm sure they will not fight again
July 29, 200620 yr what do u mean? how can a nationality be "wrong"? Nationality can be wrong IF the establishing of the state was wrong
July 29, 200620 yr getting back what they had before 1948 would be giving up the whole of israel!! i think you're confusing '67 with '48
July 29, 200620 yr Nationality can be wrong IF the establishing of the state was wrong how is it your place to determine whether the establishment of a state was wrong or right??
July 29, 200620 yr getting back what they had before 1948 would be giving up the whole of israel!! i think you're confusing '67 with '48 I don't mean it exactly I mean Just Jerusalem
July 29, 200620 yr I don't mean it exactly I mean Just Jerusalem there are paletinians in jerusalem, lots of them. Along side with jews. I would know, I live in jerusalem.
July 29, 200620 yr how is it your place to determine whether the establishment of a state was wrong or right?? When I tack an emty place to establish a country it's ok When I make a revoloution and make a new system it's ok But when I occupied land and establish a country it's wrong
July 29, 200620 yr why are u so fixed on jerusalem? and rest assured that even if parts of the jerusalem are given back, i'm positive the attacks wont stop until they get it all back
July 29, 200620 yr When I tack an emty place to establish a country it's ok When I make a revoloution and make a new system it's ok But when I occupied land and establish a country it's wrong so u think it was wrong of the americans to take the land from the native americans? No land was ever completly empty, almost all the countries were conquered and maybe established over a minority that may have been there before. That's no reason to stay at war for half a century.
July 29, 200620 yr oh, and what u just said has nothing to do with the fact that i see judaism as part of the israeli nationality
July 29, 200620 yr 1-It's not a reason to occupation a land and establish a country 2- it's like as you take a apartment in violence and ask who own this apartment to live together 1. We had that country first, but I'm not going to get into that. 2. It's our country, if we want to live with them but they do not want it!! And about Jerusalem, we give them a finger, and they want the whole hand..
July 29, 200620 yr I'm sure that if middle east were a peaceful land (where Iran don't threat Israel with atomic bomb), Israel would stand within its borders. Until estremists will be so influent, Israel will never be certain of its safety. It's necessary to marginalize estremists (hezbollah, hamas, Ahmadinejad), even with strenght if it needs. But unilateral action is wrong and against international law. The international community should act to disarm terrorists and estremist. And I wish, in particoular, the involvement of islamic and arabian democracies. Waiting for the international action, I admit that it's hard for Israel to be stuck watching that your neighbours threat you! p.s. surely Jerusalem, Nazareth were israel land first
July 29, 200620 yr where's Nick when you need him???... see this^^^^ is propaanda.. how do you know these countries are only saying this in public??? Are you some 'young prodical genius as well that knows all in the land??? God.. all we need now is a two faced Tampa boy running amuck... please tell me you live in FL as well...... :uhoh: its Bizarro Nick!:stunned:(you never said your name btw) Its Sunni vs Shiite in the middle east. The Sunni controlled nations are worried about a Shiite nation being on top. But anything is propaganda, its just how you look at it. Dont get me wrong, they all hate Israel, but they are more worried about a Shiite nation getting on top. This isnt just my opinion though, this is well known by many scholars. This is a example of people looking at the news and not knowing what is going on behind the scenes, it happens way too often. Who said i was young? Im not. But that has nothing to do with this. I live in Denver and my name Clay. And who are you? Just some advice for you, don't assume things about people, it will only come back to bite you in the ass.
July 29, 200620 yr sry mate but america did make al qaida george bush Snr was the one who gave bin laden weapons and he was gud friends with him' date=',, and he also gave soddum hussan weapons to attak other countries so the real terrosrist is AMERICA[/quote'] America armed the Taliban.
July 29, 200620 yr America armed the Taliban. they armed even Saddam, during the war between Iraq and Iran (1980-1988)
July 29, 200620 yr Its Sunni vs Shiite in the middle east. The Sunni controlled nations are worried about a Shiite nation being on top. But anything is propaganda' date=' its just how you look at it. Dont get me wrong, they all hate Israel, but they are more worried about a Shiite nation getting on top. This isnt just my opinion though, this is well known by many scholars. This is a example of people looking at the news and not knowing what is going on behind the scenes, it happens way too often. Who said i was young? Im not. But that has nothing to do with this. I live in Denver and my name Clay. And who are you? Just some advice for you, don't assume things about people, it will only come back to bite you in the ass.[/quote'] how is this relevant to my question??? I simply asked how you 'know' this and you return with 'its a fact and everyone knows this' .... if everyone knows this, then why is it news???? furthermore....one could same the same for you... assuming I don't know who YOU are "Clay".... :rolleyes: I wasn't aware there was a city named Tampa in Colorado.... did something just bite YOU in the ass......?????
July 29, 200620 yr I'm sure that if middle east were a peaceful land (where Iran don't threat Israel with atomic bomb), Israel would stand within its borders. Until estremists will be so influent, Israel will never be certain of its safety. It's necessary to marginalize estremists (hezbollah, hamas, Ahmadinejad), even with strenght if it needs. But unilateral action is wrong and against international law. The international community should act to disarm terrorists and estremist. And I wish, in particoular, the involvement of islamic and arabian democracies. Waiting for the international action, I admit that it's hard for Israel to be stuck watching that your neighbours threat you! YOU ARE ABSOLUTLEY RIGHT!!! (By the way I am going to Italy tomorrow so I won't be here for a few weeks..)
July 30, 200620 yr how is this relevant to my question??? I simply asked how you 'know' this and you return with 'its a fact and everyone knows this' .... if everyone knows this, then why is it news???? furthermore....one could same the same for you... assuming I don't know who YOU are "Clay".... :rolleyes: I wasn't aware there was a city named Tampa in Colorado.... did something just bite YOU in the ass......????? I guess you are not big on manners. I said nothing about Tampa. I said i live in Live in Denver Colorado. How I know this is because of research, and looking behind the scenes. Ive taken classes on the Middle East and rely on scholars for my info. You seem to be taking all this at face value, when the majority of what is going on is behind the scenes. I never said everyone knows this, because the majority of people do not, this type of knowledge is held by people who spend alot of time studying this type of stuff. I suggest you go back and read better. I dont know why you are so hostile towards me. Where i come from manners are very important. But we are not all raised the same. I do however you find funny how you doubt my name? Do you think you know more about my name then I do? I would suggest you grow up, this hostility is not how adults should be acting. Did i say something to upset you?
July 30, 200620 yr they armed even Saddam' date=' during the war between Iraq and Iran (1980-1988)[/quote'] Yes America did.:veryangry2:
July 30, 200620 yr Author Yep, it's always the case, arming countries - then making them the enemy and then demanding that they be disarmed by force.....which in turn destroys the country and has all of it's money assets (oil etc..) stolen. At the same time making the Bush/Bin Laden family millions on construction contracts through the Carlyle Group (from building of bases etc)
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