you are so shallow in respect to this conflict. if you were living in your house and the english (i'm using this example because you are scottish, lol) began launching attacks on you because you were catholic say, and just because you were there, but you have no other place to go... what would you do? let them slowly and systematically destroy you?

that is the situation in israel. the jewish people fought so hard to establish a country of their own (israel is the only country in the world with judaism as its official religion) and have no other place to go except assimilate if you lose the country...

Alas, I'm from Manchester in England, born there and everything, my dad's Scottish though. Manchester was bombed by the IRA, a nominally Catholic organisation, back in 1996, I was there, and I saw the city centre turned into a ruin.

 

We rebuilt and now Manchester is great.

 

All religions have foaming at the mouth psychopaths, you just gotta ignore them.

 

And well, its not the situation in Israel. Cos Mancunians are from Manchester, many of them have lived there for generations and aren't in the mood for leaving, and we aren't in the mood for fighting either.

(israel is the only country in the world with judaism as its official religion)

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_established_religions There are no countries in which Hindu is its official religion and they have 50 times more followers http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

and there are literally loads of countries that have no state religions, including the USA, Canada and France

they have no state religions, but the president says god bless america

^ he does indeed. He's not a Christian anyway....it's all fake. A Vote winner. What a fraud.

hahaha.

gareth, what do you reckon of the london thing. i have a slight inkering that it may have no substinence, and is just a poster in a campaign.

*thats because of you*

i dont neccesarily believe that is the case, put i dunno i just can see the other side of the news a bit better. i may not neccesarily be right...

Well over 80% of people in India are Hindus - the vast majority i guess since they are the big guys in the region that they're not too bothered about it being offical.

 

When Israel was formed - there was a minorty of Jews there - the rest moved there. And there was that small matter of the world feeling guilty about the holocaust.

 

I read somewhere that Stalin actually wanted the Jewish state to be formed in the USSR. Does anyone know where i can read more?

hahaha.

gareth, what do you reckon of the london thing. i have a slight inkering that it may have no substinence, and is just a poster in a campaign.

*thats because of you*

i dont neccesarily believe that is the case, put i dunno i just can see the other side of the news a bit better. i may not neccesarily be right...

 

I indeed think it's a massive fear operation which will be blamed on Iran or a similar enemy. I've wrote what I think about it this other threads.

And it's bad, very bad.

^ he does indeed. He's not a Christian anyway....it's all fake. A Vote winner. What a fraud.

 

 

shut up

Well, it's true man.

 

Deal.

No its not. its another huge conspiracy theory you have. thats why people dont take guys like you serious, becuase you think everything is one.

Don't care what you think.

Well none of us know George Bush personally so how can we know?

 

This is what Wiki says:

 

Religious beliefs and practices

After meeting evangelist Billy Graham in 1985, Bush became much more involved in Christian belief and practice. [10] During this period, he left the Bush family's Episcopalian faith to join his wife's United Methodist Church, a denomination that in part represents a more socially conservative worldview (see United Methodist Church "Diversity Within Methodist Beliefs"). Bush is generally recognized as a born-again Christian.

 

In one of the televised debates in the 2000 Republican primaries, all participating candidates were asked to name their favorite philosopher. Bush responded by stating "Jesus Christ" — averring that Christ was the philosopher who had "changed his life". Bush had not previously referred publicly to the topic of philosophers who had influenced him - and it is not known which other philosophers have had an impact on him.

 

What alarms me most is this paragraph lower down

 

First Term

Bush's first 100 days were considered less bipartisan than he pledged during the campaign. His most controversial appointment was John Ashcroft as Attorney General. Democrats vigorously opposed Ashcroft for his strong, socially conservative positions on issues like abortion and capital punishment, though they eventually confirmed him. On his first day in office, Bush moved to block federal aid to foreign groups that offered counseling or any other assistance to women in obtaining abortions. Days later, he announced his commitment to channeling more federal aid to faith-based service organizations that critics feared would dissolve the traditional separation of church and state.

 

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/George+W.+Bush

Well if Wiki say's it.....

 

Oh yeah, he gets more votes this way..."god bless America...ahuh ahuh ahuh".

 

.....still not enough to win legally....but it gets him halfway there at least.

Well we all know wikis not the most accurate thing in the world, but to totally dismiss it smacks of ignorance.

 

But you only listen to prisonplanet.com

Hey, Actually, I like Wikipedia......but when you've seen evidence that George Bush attends the Bohemian Grove Club, who make 100% serious mock sacrifices during the “Cremation of Care” ritual, in which the club’s mascot is burned in effigy to an Owl Demon called 'Molech'.....symbolizing a freedom from the responsabitly of 'care'....then you can't say that Bush is "born again" now can you.

 

Plus that's not true about my news......I get my news from all over. But Yes, lot's of of the articles are from prisonplanet.com or prisonplanet.tv and Infowars.com......tough.....it's about getting out the truth. And they put lots of info from other sources together.

 

I don't care what you are think their or my agenda is........because the only one agenda we have is promotion of the truth.

Anybody actually hear about the events in Lebanon today??

 

(This 'Terror Plot' eclipsed all other news, hmmmm)

Anybody actually hear about the events in Lebanon today??

 

(This 'Terror Plot' eclipsed all other news, hmmmm)

 

nothing on most of the main pages of the BBc site. am sure there'll be something there if you go to the Middle East section

UN attacks Lebanon aid 'disgrace'

 

Gaza-Egypt border briefly reopens

 

Are the only 2 pieces from today. No other news today. Wouldn't normally listen to conspiracy theories, but what exactly have the various governments managed to bury in today's terrorism blanket?

I've heard something else happened. Something bigger, regarding air-strike bombings in beirut but I'll wait to see if there's any truth to what I've been told.

I heard israel is pulling 1,000 troops out or something. but im not sure if its true. maybe a ceasefire will happen soon.

And I heard Israel have 40,000 troops ready, haha, I guess we will find out, in some capacity, what's happening soon.

i use the exact same reasoning as you and that me no nations owns its land....so your land is not "your" land then....how are you any different then the jews then? you are not

 

 

I told you before

 

We in Egypt live as Egyptians not as Moslem or Christian or Jew

 

The religion dosn't matter here

 

 

But Israel based on religion

Yes but the Nazi's had a proper army who didnt always fight and hide in civillan areas.

 

If Hesbollah fought like a proper army they'd be wiped out and so they choose instead to fight in civillan areas hence the high number of civillian deaths in Lebabon.

 

But apprently thats ok because they didnt start this and their suicide bombers only kill about 50 Israelis a year, they dislike the western world and hence people say they're the good guys

 

i find it rather sick that people are on their side. esp in the western world

 

 

I said before that Hezbollah not cowered as you say

 

If Hezbollah at the South why Israel hit the North and the Middle

 

If Hezbollah cowered as you say,Why Israel didn't make any progress when they meet them face to face

 

I think you know now who is the cowered

BECAUSE THE WEAPONS COME FROM SYRIA!!!! syria is to the north.

BECAUSE THE WEAPONS COME FROM SYRIA!!!! syria is to the north.

 

 

Hey,Israel hit every inch in Lebanon

 

Is every inch that Isarel hit it weapons?