Catholics arent christians' date=' just like the terrorist are not muslims. The Catholic belief is one very different then that of the bibles or jesus's, just like the modern day terrorist beliefs are different then what islam teaches. well i guess is kinda of a christian belief, but a very warped belief used by corrupt men to gain power over people. but what the catholic church does and preaches is very different then what jesus preached and wanted and very different then what god said he wanted the church to be.[/quote']

Technically, Catholics ARE of the Christian faith. They Identify as such. They claim to belive in Jusus Christ and his teachings.

 

But you know what? I grew up in an Anglican Church and a Catholic school at the same time...my own personal Northern Ireland...lol, and YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! But then again, many ppl who identify as Christians are 2-faced hipocrytes justifying whatever they choose in Jesus' name. He'd be disgusted with the lot!

 

Now who looks like the one catagorically pigeon-holing an entire faith? ME?? LOL! I don't mean that they're all like that, but anyone who oppresses another in God's name...God, Allah, Buddha, Moses, Vishnu...any god, is not a reflection of his/her entire race of creed.

assuming reasonable limits' date=' jackass. should I put a disclaimer or legal endnote after every post? ass.[/quote']

 

Great come back! get personal!

Great come back! get personal!

That's why I quit posting on this thread! We all have different opinions, but it pisses me off when we have to resort to insults. Thanks for mentioning it!!

 

Of course, I could just be biased because you have a great title and avi...GO ENGLAND!!!

Catholics arent christians' date=' just like the terrorist are not muslims. The Catholic belief is one very different then that of the bibles or jesus's, just like the modern day terrorist beliefs are different then what islam teaches. well i guess is kinda of a christian belief, but a very warped belief used by corrupt men to gain power over people. but what the catholic church does and preaches is very different then what jesus preached and wanted and very different then what god said he wanted the church to be.[/quote']

 

 

if the catholics aren't christians .. then i think there are no christians. Is there one group of christianst that folow the bible litterally? I don't think so, each and every one group has its own thoughts of how to interpret the bible and Jesus' word. Just like the Islam has the Sunnits and the Shiites.

Catholics arent christians' date=' just like the terrorist are not muslims[/i']

Man you've got no idea what you're talking about.I had seen that you threw around some incorrect terms such as "racism"(when it's acutally called anti-semitism),etc in some other threads, but this quote is totally ingorant LIE.

I mean educate your self for fuck sake.

Catholics are Christians, they are a christian denomination, just as Protestans, Orthodox Christians, Jehowa's witnesses,Mormons and many other.

Ira members in most cases are Catholics, but Catholicism isn't any "terror group", if they were, Pope would be in prison by now.

If you keep writing such nonsense, no one will take you seriously anymore.

Well...Bijeli Miš said it all.

 

You could've said that Muslims are not terrorists just like whales are not fishes---:D

I mean you could say that sunni's aren't Muslims as well.

That fucking George W Bush should be proud of his everlasting propaganda!

What the bloody hell dose the thread-starter want to do by saying"Islam is violent"?! To spread hatred? To demonize Muslims? Go ask your ancestors if they loved"thy enemies"! They kiledl innocent ppl and colonized wherever they wanted to!Let alone "thy enenmies"!

 

But do we say "Christianity is evil"? No! So why should Islam be deemed violent? No religion is evil or violent! Religions offer ppl spiritual aids. There're only ppl who misunderstand and misuse the dogmas of their religion!Religion itself should not be reponsible for those vicious believers!

That fucking George W Bush should be proud of his everlasting propaganda!

What the bloody hell dose the thread-starter want to do by saying"Islam is violent"?! To spread hatred? To demonize Muslims? Go ask your ancestors if they loved"thy enemies"! They kiledl innocent ppl and colonized wherever they wanted to!Let alone "thy enenmies"!

 

But do we say "Christianity is evil"? No! So why should Islam be deemed violent? No religion is evil or violent! Religions offer ppl spiritual aids. There're only ppl who misunderstand and misuse the dogmas of their religion!Religion itself should not be reponsible for those vicious believers!

 

Apparently by quoting verses in the Qu'ran that demonstrate evil, the religion of Islam can be branded entirely as evil.

 

Hmm well I take it mr thread-starter's never read the Bible either, because there are plenty of violent teachings buried in the old testament. (ex. stoning adulters)

 

At least you're looking at both sides of the argument, like I was trying to do before I was so rudely insulted. :\ Cheers man.

 

EDIT for ugadawg5: "Thou shalt not quote the Bible (or likewise, the Qu'ran) selectively"

Catholics arent christians' date=' just like the terrorist are not muslims. The Catholic belief is one very different then that of the bibles or jesus's, just like the modern day terrorist beliefs are different then what islam teaches. well i guess is kinda of a christian belief, but a very warped belief used by corrupt men to gain power over people. but what the catholic church does and preaches is very different then what jesus preached and wanted and very different then what god said he wanted the church to be.[/quote']

 

anyone who believe's in Christ and the Holy Trinity is considered a Christian.. hence the word Christians....

I think this whole thread is an excercise in ignorance. It's so blaringly obvious.

I don't think so' date=' each and every one group has its own thoughts of how to interpret the bible and Jesus' word. Just like the Islam has the Sunnits and the Shiites.[/quote']

 

 

Sunnis and Shiites are 98% the same way, and we all interpret the Quran the exact same way. There's just a ever so slight difference. Just thought I'd point that out

Catholics and Anglicans believe 95 percent the same way as well...and yet look at what that 5 percent difference has done in N. Ireland over the years.

 

When are we going to realize that it's all the same God and that the places where we pray just have different names?

 

And I can't remember who posted about the bible being violent, but you're right. If you read the Old Testament, you'd assume all Christians and Jews are violent!!

 

It's all a question of perspective, and it's a relief to see a bit of perspective in this thread, finally!

I AM VERY SAD COZ I AM MUSLIM AND ALL YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT IS NOT TRUE AND WHEN ANYONE WANT TO TALK ABOUT RELIGION MUST BE BEHAVE COZ THERE IS MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT IN THIS RELIGION .

ANTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHO IS DOING THIS RELIGION ALLAH (ALLAH MEAN GOD) WHO IS DONING THIS AND HOLY BOOK AND THE JEW BOOK :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Er....? :confused:

Technically, Catholics ARE of the Christian faith. They Identify as such. They claim to belive in Jusus Christ and his teachings.

 

But you know what? I grew up in an Anglican Church and a Catholic school at the same time...my own personal Northern Ireland...lol, and YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! But then again, many ppl who identify as Christians are 2-faced hipocrytes justifying whatever they choose in Jesus' name. He'd be disgusted with the lot!

 

Now who looks like the one catagorically pigeon-holing an entire faith? ME?? LOL! I don't mean that they're all like that, but anyone who oppresses another in God's name...God, Allah, Buddha, Moses, Vishnu...any god, is not a reflection of his/her entire race of creed.

 

They are no more christians then terrorist are muslims. they do not go with the teaching of jesus and the bible....catholicism is a human made religion, loosely based on the bible. in fact many parts of catholicism go against jesus's teachings and the bible.

 

so if it goes agaisnt major teachings of jesus and the bible it is not true christianity. just like the teaching muslim terrorist teach are not true islam. basically catholicism is a human form of christianity, which is wrong.

the Bible is made up of writings from the Apostle's point of view.. and how they interpreted the teachings of Jesus Christ.... throughout time.. it has been translated by many.. so I am sure the stories have changed a bit over time. Just like the game of telephone..

 

Don't go around disrespecting other's religions... disuss the conflict in a civilized manner.. or don't discuss at all.

the Bible is made up of writings from the Apostle's point of view.. and how they interpreted the teachings of Jesus Christ.... throughout time.. it has been translated by many.. so I am sure the stories have changed a bit over time. Just like the game of telephone..

 

Don't go around disrespecting other's religions... disuss the conflict in a civilized manner.. or don't discuss at all.

 

 

Its nothing like a game fo telephone, because the origonal versions of the bible is waht we have today, it is the same as it was first written. the origonal bible is the exact same as it was back then, the only difference is translations.

 

the catholic "religion" took jesus's teachings and warped them into their own views, and it goes agaisnt what jesus preached.

...and I'm the blind one.. :rolleyes:

 

 

dude... I dare you too look at a King James version of the Bible vs. a non-King James version... there are slight variances... not that the whole story is different... but things are either left out or added... go ahead.. do your research.. lol

 

as for the second part of your post... all I have to say is.... WHAT!?

 

You're not going to win that one because now you talking about people's beliefs.. and there's no winning that one. You can never convince otherswise on people's beliefs.... its their faith!

Please move away from "the bible".......it's a dangerous book.

 

It's gets us nowhere.

Im just saying bottom line the catholic church teaches against what jesus preached, much like what these "muslim" terrorist preach goes agaisnt islam.

So now you're comparing the Catholic Church to terrorism?

 

 

Interesting direction this conversation's taken........

So now you're comparing the Catholic Church to terrorism?

 

 

Interesting direction this conversation's taken........

 

during the middle ages yes, but in modern day no.

Please move away from "the bible".......it's a dangerous book.

 

It's gets us nowhere.

 

yeah a book that teaches love and kindness....thats very dangerous:rolleyes:

during the middle ages yes' date=' but in modern day no.[/quote']

 

 

Ah, ok ok. I see what you're saying now. To that, I agree.