In light of the worlds crises in the the middle east region..and isreals attempts to rectify the problem...

Simple question do you think their actions are overboard

Well not quite. They were attacked and thus hit back. I support the right of any nation to do that.

 

From a propaganda view they've fucked up

From a Stratigic view -They are up to their necks in it. If Syria gets involved than it really will be a proper war.

Israel has worked its way into a tight spot.

not much support for the action over here... hmmmm !

Israel is pissed but they are holding back. Israel is going easy on lebanon.

a simple answer: yes.

yea they are going easy on them. Sure they arent throwing ALL of their forces into the invasion, just half

yea they are going easy on them. Sure they arent throwing ALL of their forces into the invasion' date=' just half[/quote']

 

not even that much. israel could do oh so much more damage if they werent holding back.

No.

 

But if America was in Israel's place, the whole world would be raising hell about how wrong it is.

No matter what america does or would do, no country will be as hated as israel...but i cant imagine why...:rolleyes: i cant have anything to do with the jews being hated and mistreated for thousands of years by europe or anything.....thats unthinkable. we all know things that deep within culture just go away in 60 years......:rolleyes:

But why civilians?

No matter what america does or would do' date=' no country will be as hated as israel...but i cant imagine why...:rolleyes: i cant have anything to do with the jews being hated and mistreated for thousands of years by europe or anything.....thats unthinkable. we all know things that deep within culture just go away in 60 years......:rolleyes:[/quote']

 

 

so all of Europe hates Jewish people as well... geesh. :rolleyes:

so all of Europe hates Jewish people as well... geesh. :rolleyes:

 

No, not at all. but something that deep in the culture affects people views on them. like black people in america. even non racist tend to have some negative views towards them because it is deep within american culture. try to look deeper into things, dont take everything at face value, it will only hurt you in the long run.

But why civilians?

 

They arent trying to kill them, but in wars people make mistakes and innocent people die. there is one side trying to limit the amount of innocent people killed(israel) while the other is trying to maximize the amount killed on both sides (Hezobollah) and its working, they are using the anti-semitism in europe culture to their advantage.

But why civilians?

 

hisbollah choose to fight/hide in civillan areas.

No' date=' not at all. but something that deep in the culture affects people views on them. like black people in america. even non racist tend to have some negative views towards them because it is deep within american culture. try to look deeper into things, dont take everything at face value, it will only hurt you in the long run.[/quote']

 

All this "look deeper" is SO vague it's untrue.....I AM TEELING YOU THAT DEEP WITHIN ME THERE IS NO VIEW ON JEWS THAT MAKES ME DISLIKE THEM.

It's leaders, yes.......Jewish people, no.

 

You are using a very big and dated generalisation.

Why are people getting carried away with the word Jew.. why do people think we are against a Jew.... its cleary states isreal. As if they were true Jews... as the faith says they would not be undertakening such evil barbaric mudourous actions....

I have exactly the same sentiment for terroists groups that bombed Madrid, New York, London and Bali they are not muslims just ' Murders'

All this "look deeper" is SO vague it's untrue.....I AM TEELING YOU THAT DEEP WITHIN ME THERE IS NO VIEW ON JEWS THAT MAKES ME DISLIKE THEM.

It's leaders, yes.......Jewish people, no.

 

You are using a very big and dated generalisation.

 

he never referred what he said to you, i think he's talking about the general public.

 

u would actually think it would be other way round- i mean ppl being pro israel since many many countries seem to be pro hizballa. I think youd expect it to be the other way round since alot of countries were hurt by arab terrorists, and what did the jews ever do?

thats what makes me think that antisemitism that was very alive 60 years ago is still somewhere in many ppls hearts.

he never referred what he said to you, i think he's talking about the general public.

 

u would actually think it would be other way round- i mean ppl being pro israel since many many countries seem to be pro hizballa. I think youd expect it to be the other way round since alot of countries were hurt by arab terrorists, and what did the jews ever do?

thats what makes me think that antisemitism that was very alive 60 years ago is still somewhere in many ppls hearts.

 

This really makes me laugh

 

'what makes me think that antisemitism that was very alive 60 years ago is still somewhere in many ppls hearts'

 

 

This is like saying me saying ' IS IT BECAUSE I AM BLACK' Statment...

No.

 

But if America was in Israel's place, the whole world would be raising hell about how wrong it is.

 

^^^ that is true, but the whole world IS coming down on Israel for what they are doing.

This really makes me laugh

 

'what makes me think that antisemitism that was very alive 60 years ago is still somewhere in many ppls hearts'

 

 

This is like saying me saying ' IS IT BECAUSE I AM BLACK' Statment...

 

Difference blacks were not hated and mistreated and killed for thousands of years by europe. its deep within europe's culture, much like racism towards black people is in amerrican culture.

All this "look deeper" is SO vague it's untrue.....I AM TEELING YOU THAT DEEP WITHIN ME THERE IS NO VIEW ON JEWS THAT MAKES ME DISLIKE THEM.

It's leaders, yes.......Jewish people, no.

 

You are using a very big and dated generalisation.

 

You're so shallow. its sad. some people take things for face value and they are very ignorant sad people, but some people look deeper within things and look behind the scenes. More people should do that.

You're so shallow. its sad. some people take things for face value and they are very ignorant sad people' date=' but some people look deeper within things and look behind the scenes. More people should do that.[/quote']

 

I can't believe you actually said that to Gareth! :laugh3: Oh man, that's just being ignorant, regardless of how much you disagree with his opinions.

I can't believe you actually said that to Gareth! :laugh3: Oh man' date=' that's just being ignorant, regardless of how much you disagree with his opinions.[/quote']

 

He's way to shallow. call me ignorant but ive learned its stupid to be shallow. you may think othewise, but thats your opinion. and everyone who does not look behind the surface is shallow too.

this coming from the guy throwing around the "unamerican" card a few weeks ago. People who dont agree with your opinions are now unamerican or shallow? ok then

If the Israelis were really trying avoid civilian deaths they wouldn't be launching any attacks on Lebanon.

 

They aren't defending themselves, by no means is this a nation defending themselves. I struggle to see how this slaughter of Lebanese can be at all perceived as Israel defending itself.

 

Its a horrendous loss of life.

 

Israel lost any support I had for them the moment they resorted to violence to get back the two kidnapped soldiers.

 

Hezbollah claim to have kidnapped the two soldiers originally for the purpose of negotiating the release of Lebanese prisoners held in Israeli prisons. How's about, when the bloodshed is over, the Israelis release as many Lebanese prisoners as innocent civilians they have killed.

 

A life for a life.