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Viva La Vida Tour - Disapointing Set Lists

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isn't it about paltrow's father dying? i think i read that somewhere? i can definitely see chris not wanting to play that very often if it brings up bad memories

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Since Yes is my fav from the new album I really hope it makes it onto tonight's set list in Boston.

i wish they would play warning sign..its one of my fav coldplay songs also, swallowed in the sea...its the song that stands out the most to me from their last tour...its such a beautiful song!!:heart: whenever i watch that performance on youtube it gives me shivers...

I love 42 live!It's brilliant!I like the set list.Although I would like to hear Cemeteries of London

i wish they would play warning sign..its one of my fav coldplay songs also, swallowed in the sea...its the song that stands out the most to me from their last tour...its such a beautiful song!!:heart: whenever i watch that performance on youtube it gives me shivers...

 

They sang "Warning Sign" for those of us lucky enough to receive a spot at the Sound Check Party in Toronto on July 30th. Chris sang it so softly. It was the most beautiful thing I have ever heard live. They clearly have it down, perhaps they'll throw it in the setlist later on in the tour... Maybe they just don't have the perfect spot for it yet.

The solution to the set list problem is simple: they need to play longer shows. If the show is only 90 minutes, including encore, then they pretty much only have time to play most of the new album and their biggest hits to satisfy their fans. If they actually played 2 hours or more, like every other self-respecting rock band, they would have time to play some of the deeper cuts off their albums to satisfy everybody.

 

Personally, I never need to hear Yellow, The Scientist or In My Place live again (six times is enough, thanks), and would kill to hear them play killer live songs like Shiver, Daylight, AROBTTH or Low again live, but it's just not going to happen this tour.

 

As much as I love Coldplay, their tour is clearly designed to sell the new album and please as many people as possible. As such if you haven't seen them live yet - expect a lot of VLV (not a bad thing at all), and lots of singles (a bad thing for me, but not for most of the world apparantly).

 

PS - Love your avatar DJR. Go McNasty!

The only additions I'd really love to see are Swallowed in the Sea (which might be a distinct possibility coming up), and for them to close with an Everything's Not Lost/Life Is for Living encore. The latter will never happen and it's a shame--just look at the Life Is for Living performance from Glastonbury 2002 to see the epicness of that track as a closer.

I've been listening alot to the new album, and putting the old ones on the shelf for a while. The album has grown on me, and has a lot of great moments. Lovers in Japan was a track i ended up playing on repeat for days.

 

I've also seen the BBC show and that BNN-popsecrets thing(wtf did chris smoke?) that aired, and thought it was rather nice performances, though i think chris's singing needs a bit of polishing as someone mentioned earlier in the thread.

 

BUT

 

When i blew the dust of the Live 2003 dvd and fed it to my dvd-player, it was like i had been missing out on coldplay since the new album was released.

 

I hope they get it all together this tour too. Can't wait to see them live!

I totally agree they need to play longer shows. I'm not to versed in the shows of other huge bands and how long they last but hell, even a 7 dollar movie lasts 2 hours..

 

While I like the whole "Viva" theme at the concert and they play 9/10 songs off the new album, they are completely ignoring ALL (except Yellow) of Parachutes..Cmon, you can't throw one of the other songs off that album every once in a while??? Remember when you won a grammy for that album? Yea, that means you should probably play something else off that album and not act like Yellow is the only song that was released on Parachutes. They play about half of AROBTTH but they leave really really good songs off the setlist from that album (Warning Sign, AROBTTH which they NEVER NEVER NEVER PLAY at the actual show). I would think that becuase you occasionally mix the setlist up you would throw in different stuff, but it seems like they have only mixed things up in the way "Ok I had fish last night, so lets have chicken tonight and then fish tommorow and then chicken the next night" which isn't really mixing it up as far as just alterating the same songs, which they don't even do anymore apparently becuase they play the same exact setlist for consecutive shows now for some reason.

 

I think johnny has even said (In his latest interview on coldplay.com) that the last thing they wanted to happen is people say "I wish they played more of thier old stuff"...well....thats pretty much whats happening. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE the new album but I LOVE your old stuff as much as I do the new stuff, its what got me listening to coldplay in the first place. That and every live show I listened to was AMAZING which is what makes a good band good. But isn't it a bad thing if I listen to a show on the viva tour and it sounds EXACTLY like another show off the viva tour?

 

PLEASE COLDPLAY PLAY MORE OF YOUR OLD STUFF!!!! WARNING SIGN, AROBTTH, TALK, WHAT IF, A WHISPER, EVERYTHING'S NOT LOST, SHIVER, TILL KINGDOM COME, WHITE SHADOWS, SWALLOWED IN THE SEA, THE HARDEST PART, HOW YOU SEE THE WORLD

 

Please just insert one of these songs into each night's setlist and I promise we would all be happier about a hour and half show but if you wanted to play longer then that would be ok too :)

 

PS: Keep playing Square One cuz that song is better live then the recorded version.

 

While I like the whole "Viva" theme at the concert and they play 9/10 songs off the new album, they are completely ignoring ALL (except Yellow) of Parachutes..Cmon, you can't throw one of the other songs off that album every once in a while??? Remember when you won a grammy for that album?

 

LOL problem is, they've won a grammy for every album!

I don't have a problem with sets of 90 minutes-I would prefer 2 hours, which you get from radiohead and others. The problem I feel is the darn set-list feels the same!

Given we are four albums in, lots of hit songs, coldplay should have an entirely different set every night. They aspire to be like Radiohead then they should go watch radiohead for a week, you get +20 song sets that are unique-yes they play still play 5-7 new songs, but they are different new songs, different old songs every night. They do this because otherwise it gets boring for them. Okay they fluff their lines sometimes, but there is an edge to their performances which right now coldplay do not have in theirs.

I went to LA and Vegas, and I can relate that I will not do two shows in the same tour again. Both were good, but both were almost the same. I am glad I didn't decide to go to 5 or 6 shows this tour.

1 encore is almost borderline not appreciating the fans.

 

it's as if they refuse to deviate from a set of songs they practiced or something.

1 encore is almost borderline not appreciating the fans.

 

it's as if they refuse to deviate from a set of songs they practiced or something.

 

 

I think encores are too cliched and the norm! I am glad some bands still only do encores on very special occassions. But yeah, you are right about coldplay and practice.

Very definitely I have felt coldplay have been under-rehearsed this tour and not very spontaneous. They played longer sets with after the 1st album!

Let's not forget that they decided to appreciate their fans by jumping off stage and running backstage to join the folks in the back.

I'll take that kind of consideration before a 2 hour long set. Think about how amazing that is!!!!

 

These arenas are full with 200,000 people. So easily they could get on that stage and do what they do and leave without a moments thought- but instead they really do try to get something across to their fans, and that's that they matter. That they are worth the extra security and effort it takes to haul ass across the whole arena just to give everyone a whole new angle of our boys.

Cmonnnn!

Let's not forget that they decided to appreciate their fans by jumping off stage and running backstage to join the folks in the back.

I'll take that kind of consideration before a 2 hour long set. Think about how amazing that is!!!!

 

These arenas are full with 200,000 people. So easily they could get on that stage and do what they do and leave without a moments thought- but instead they really do try to get something across to their fans, and that's that they matter. That they are worth the extra security and effort it takes to haul ass across the whole arena just to give everyone a whole new angle of our boys.

Cmonnnn!

 

200,000? More like 15,00 at most. :rolleyes2:

 

But I totally agree, longer setlists are a must. You can't charge essentially 100 dollars for a a decent lower level seat and expect people to be happy with a 90 minute show. I mean, playing for an hour and 12 minutes was fine at MSG because it was free (still too short, but I can't really bitch about it), but when you have people paying in the neighborhood of hundreds of dollars to come to your show, you better be playing 2 hours. Mix things up, have some fun. Keep the fans guessing, and I think it'll truly be appreciated.

 

Imagine the cheers they'd get if you didn't know that the last songs were going to be Fix You, LiJ, and Death and All His Friends--and instead, they threw in Everything's Not Lost or Amsterdam to close--just out of sheer spontaneity. It's what should be done and I think Coldplay will do it in time. Hopefully, anyway.

Let's not forget that they decided to appreciate their fans by jumping off stage and running backstage to join the folks in the back.

I'll take that kind of consideration before a 2 hour long set. Think about how amazing that is!!!!

 

These arenas are full with 200,000 people. So easily they could get on that stage and do what they do and leave without a moments thought- but instead they really do try to get something across to their fans, and that's that they matter. That they are worth the extra security and effort it takes to haul ass across the whole arena just to give everyone a whole new angle of our boys.

Cmonnnn!

 

 

It is clever doing this...but it is not spontaneous. One problem is when they did this I lost interest for those two songs. The sound was poor, I couldn't see the band, even with those (over-rated) ball screens.

Bascially, we (fans) are mostly paying over $100 per ticket-at least 60% of all seats are $100 in every venue. Compare radiohead in Indy the other day, my ticket was $65(top price)

1st row. I got a 25 song set lasting over 2 hours and 2 encores. Which was better value? MMmmmmmmm

Some thoughts on this whole debate (PlEASE keep in mind that all of the following are only my opinions and I don't mean to assert they are the only correct opinions or to offend anyone with differing opinions)

 

I saw the band both nights in Chicago and they WERE polished and tight IMHO. That said, I've always found Coldplay to be just a bit sloppy in terms of live performance, to me, the mistakes and goofs they made when I saw them were nothing out of the ordinary for this band. With that said, I would contend that ANY band no matter how great will always sound rougher at the start of a tour than they will once they've had time to "get in the groove" of live performance.

 

Set length, I find Coldplay's set's to be toward the short end of what I consider acceptable for a major headlining act. They could play a bit longer, but they don't. I don't see that changing, would be nice if it did, but probably won't.

 

Set itself, Yeah the show is roughly the same everynight but that's what a huge arena show is. DMB, mixes their sets up as much as they do because a HUGE perportion of their audience wants to hear b-sides, rareties, etc. With Coldplay the situation is the exact opposite, the majority of their fans go to hear the radio hits and will see the show once (or perhaps a few times per tour). Coldplay don't Have the kind of audience DMB of BRMC have and their shows reflect that. Mind you, I'm not saying a lot of CP fans don't want to hear the more obscure songs, but I'm affraid you're in the minority as far as ths band's fans go. Just look at how many people at the concerts sing along to the radio hits yet stare blankly whenever the band try to play a less well known song.

 

I agree that Coldplay is not the best live show in rock (and IMHO will likely never be.), but they are, for me worth the money to see live, for you they may not be. That's cool. It's subjective, based on opinion and what the show is worth to you. There's no way to be objective about it. Coldplay does what they do, if that's not to your tastes, your money is probably better spent on some other band you can enjoy, as Coldplay probably won't change anytime soon. (if they ever do at all.)

 

As a last bit, I think the Parachutes material is being somewhat disregarded because it doesn't fit the show. Most of the songs are quieter and slower and would not fit in between the more "crowd pleasing" numbers from the newer records.

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