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positives and negatives for coldplay's rise

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There are little disappointments of course, but for me it's like a small argument with one of your dearest loved ones - it may threaten to take the shine off a little from time to time, but that inevitably comes with having something so precious. I's not a negative - it's normal, just because some bits aren't as incredible as others!!

 

That's a nice analogy :nice:

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That's a nice analogy :nice:

Yes! Very nicely put.

There are little disappointments of course, but for me it's like a small argument with one of your dearest loved ones - it may threaten to take the shine off a little from time to time, but that inevitably comes with having something so precious. I's not a negative - it's normal, just because some bits aren't as incredible as others!!

 

 

awwww.I like that.Very nicely put

Kimchi is brillant , with words and feelings, touching just the right chord.

positive: VLVODAAHF

negative: X&Y

Sorry guys if I was rude or telling things that are my opinion but too subjective.I love this forum, there is lot of friendship going on.But, and you do not have to continue reading ,this is mY FINAL STATEMENT:laugh3:, but I think that it's time for me to go on, go further, I will always love coldplay, but at this album I can't feel a thing> It's like that story with the king and with his imaginary clothes,I can't pretend any more that I see it,and all glamour and beauty of it, for me viva la vida is that, maybe I'm just blind, who knows.It was so fun to speak to all of you, I'm going, sign out, just I don't want to spoil things, I want people to love coldplay, they are such a great band, and more important VERY GOOD PEOPLE.But I have to go on, search for emotions that will move me, go deeper, further.Sorry if it was boring.

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Bye Tarkovsky, so long, great film maker name.

Sorry guys if I was rude or telling things that are my opinion but too subjective.I love this forum, there is lot of friendship going on.But, and you do not have to continue reading ,this is mY FINAL STATEMENT:laugh3:, but I think that it's time for me to go on, go further, I will always love coldplay, but at this album I can't feel a thing> It's like that story with the king and with his imaginary clothes,I can't pretend any more that I see it,and all glamour and beauty of it, for me viva la vida is that, maybe I'm just blind, who knows.It was so fun to speak to all of you, I'm going, sign out, just I don't want to spoil things, I want people to love coldplay, they are such a great band, and more important VERY GOOD PEOPLE.But I have to go on, search for emotions that will move me, go deeper, further.Sorry if it was boring.

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I feel your sadness my friend, not because I share your opinions about the album, but because I know that feeling from my own years past...crushing disappointment at something you looked forward to so much. And this is a message board - not the place to all think and feel the same, but to share and try to understand our differences!!

 

Have you seen them play it live yet, though? I'd really urge you to listen, listen as much as you can and then go to see the live show. If you ever loved Coldplay there's a good chance you will fall in love with the tracks live if you haven't just from listening at home. I first saw them in 03, and Brixton and the BBC were the most incredible times since then, and Brixton certainly better!

Positives: everything! The glass is overflowing, spouting water from the top in every direction, careful where you stand or there may be injuries!!

 

Negatives: nothing - there's not even a vacuum where that empty space should be!!

 

i love how you said carefull where you stand hahaha

 

i was thinking of something to say on here... but couldn't find the right words... so thanks for filling that gap in my mind!:)

I think a band can't always just put forward emotions.As a band grow,the proportion of their idea of life should be greater.No one can stay in adolescence forever.In my opinion,Coldplay has given some meaning of life they figured out.That's the most precious thing of VLVODAAHF.

 

As to Gwyneth,I think she is quite clever.She's well educated and so is Chris.They both know to respect each other's career.She rarely comment Coldplay like Chris rarely comment Shakespeare in Love or Iron Man.That's enough.I believe Coldplay are all smart people and won't split just because of Gwyneth.

wow Dan,

 

What you said about emotions is so important. We get lost in them and yet we want to feel them, even the painful ones, as if we were these emotions.

 

They are useful to connect with people, and to recognize what's going on inside us,as a sort of non verbal language, but they are not all what life is about.

 

Love in that extent is more a life energy that a simple emotion that we would feel or not.

 

And music can carry a lot of emotions, but indeed, as is the case with VLVODAAHF, it can carry much more meaning, and healing, as it appears with the fact that the album seems to "grow" on people at every listening.

 

I am so grateful for your input Dan from China. In this time of official harmony..:sunny:

 

This thread is great !

Yes this thread is great.I like to discuss these things which are more...practical maybe.

 

What you said about emotion is meaningful.I think a great piece of art is not to roar its own emotions,or try to impress its emotions to others.Your emotions would be aroused when you touch a great piece of art,and you would find the art is echoing your emotions...that's what I think.

 

Official harmony...that's ironic...but I think China is hilarious now.A nice circumstance.For the charm of human themselves.It appears these days,everytime when human are challenging impossibilities.It's affecting.

As to Gwyneth,I think she is quite clever.She's well educated and so is Chris.They both know to respect each other's career.She rarely comment Coldplay like Chris rarely comment Shakespeare in Love or Iron Man.That's enough.I believe Coldplay are all smart people and won't split just because of Gwyneth.

 

 

Don't get me wrong!

 

Actually my comment is not about Chris and Coldplay splitting because of her or fighting because of her or She's going to be a Yoko ono as some one said in this thread.

 

But my objection is from every where from her career to his career the attention given by media is quite more.

 

Like if i married to Chris and also i am a very big actress like her i know that my topics are going to be discussed from my career,my home and everything.

 

But when they're doing their job its some times good for me to not to go every where they go, or not to interfere in all the things all the four do.

 

And especially when it comes to media i have to be carefull.

 

These are the main issues about gwyneth i worry a lot.

 

And while we are expressing our opinions the people must let us to express it.its very important.

 

Any one should not stop a person from discussing anything eventhough they agree with him or not with their rants.:rolleyes:

Yes this thread is great.I like to discuss these things which are more...practical maybe.

 

What you said about emotion is meaningful.I think a great piece of art is not to roar its own emotions,or try to impress its emotions to others.Your emotions would be aroused when you touch a great piece of art,and you would find the art is echoing your emotions...that's what I think.

 

Official harmony...that's ironic...but I think China is hilarious now.A nice circumstance.For the charm of human themselves.It appears these days,everytime when human are challenging impossibilities.It's affecting.

 

I like very much what you write, and how you write Dan.

 

About China, my uncle has been there before the olympics, they call him laowai, and he had a great time with the people. (He is 65 years and went around with a backpack.)

 

When you say it is affecting, do you mean it is moving, touching ?

When you say it is affecting, do you mean it is moving, touching ?

 

Yes.Sometimes I even have an impulse to cry when I see an athlete finish something full of difficulties.

about the positive points:

 

their most strongest point is they all are good friends and they understand each other perfectly.If any one are in problems they all help each other.

 

best example is when the bbc 6 music interviewer is twisting Chris to tell some thing that he don't like to say,and he went off from there feeling stressed,

 

then Will immediately took over his part and stood for the rest of the interview explaining things to the interviewer.

 

Chris himself said once in a 95.5 wplj interview in NY recently that if he doesn't like to speak he's lucky that he's in a band and he'll hand it over to the others and they'll take their part.

 

Because of only this i had hope that Chris's wife will not become a reason for their split,because they all are college friends and there from the beginning of the period they all formed coldplay and will definitely understand the problems and situations of the band well.

 

 

while making music also there will not be any conflicts between them,they all will discuss with each other and also chris will do anything if will agrees.

 

Chris while introducing his bandmates will introduce them as his best friends.And he made the drummer sing at the concerts introducing him.

well Pallavi...I was not commenting what you said really...:Dbut I think Gwyneth is doing what you want her to do...I rarely see her with Coldplay...She's a busy actress.:D

 

Ok let's stop talking Gwyneth...It's amusing to see that Coldplay haven't argued about her but their fans are arguing about her...:lol:There is a proverb in Chinese called 'worry for the ancient people'.I think we are doing this.;)

Its all positive. Anyone finding negatives is nitpicking...

well Pallavi...I was not commenting what you said really...:Dbut I think Gwyneth is doing what you want her to do...I rarely see her with Coldplay...She's a busy actress.:D

 

Ok let's stop talking Gwyneth...It's amusing to see that Coldplay haven't argued about her but their fans are arguing about her...:lol:There is a proverb in Chinese called 'worry for the ancient people'.I think we are doing this.;)

 

i think that in this forum there are a lot of people who like Gwyneth.

 

Okay i understand when some one who doesn't like your favorite film star or any star makes some comment you may get irritated.

 

But what ever i am saying about her is not that she is a Yoko ono,well i don't mind even she's a yoko ono.

 

But everything they do as she's a film star media adds her name in everything.

 

You see you might like her but i like one and only Coldplay and Chris in the world,but not gwyneth and any others.....

 

i have a different choice when it comes to hollywood actors well in that way....

 

When some one are coming into our band what ever they do it pisses me off eventhough she's his wife.

 

And i think there is no necessity for every one to agree with every one what ever they say.

 

But people have different tastes,preferences and different thinking.

 

In the same case as me Vs. the lot of people in this forum.

 

They think in a way and i may think in a different way.

 

But what ever it is you have to let people say their opinion because every one has that right to express it.

 

People will not stop if you say no.

You make me feel that I haven't expressed my opinions clearly.

 

First I want to say,I'm not forcing you to stop talking Gwyneth.I just suggested.And I didn't know that you don't like her.What I think is that you worried about coldplay would split because of her and I just want to relief you.It seems that I was wrong.I apologise.And it just proved that I need to practice my English more.

 

Secondly,I think that family is very important to a human,even an artist.I don't want Chris be single,and I do think Ms Gwyneth Paltrow is suitable to be Mr Chris Martin's wife.Yes she IS famous,and inevitably some annoying people will keep asking coldplay about her.But I think Gwyneth has some virtue that won't let her become Yoko.She's clever,silent and know to respect others.Yes Chris can find a normal person to become his wife.But unfortunately he didn't.And I think before married John Lennon,Yoko was normal too.That saved nothing.And everything has happened,so,I think I should make myself relieved and relaxed,but not worried and tight,just like torture.Maybe it's just a kind of Chinese optimism,whatever.

a last and final comment about Chris's family from me here:

 

as you said for any person the family life is important.Even i know that.

 

Because no one couldn't lead his life without his family support i know that.

 

There are some reasons why i don't like Gwyneth.I can't say all of them here.

 

before she married Chris i read a lot of things about her and i have some opinion on her and i also saw some clips of her but i didn't liked it much.

 

And Chris married her i really have no negative thoughts and objection for it.

 

Because it is his choice to like her and marry her.

 

What do i have to do anything with it? i don't have any right to say no for it.

 

And Dan Abnormal your english is good,don't worry everyone can understand you.

 

 

When it comes to hollywood actresses i like the actresses which portrays their role as if they are doing it in a real life.

 

and same with actors too.

 

So i like those actors who act that i wish they want to do it like.

I know I was joining in but what else is there to say on the matter?! :bomb:

 

At the end of the day Coldplay have been together for ten years and for SIX of those years Chris has been with Gwyneth and Coldplay are stronger than ever.

 

Can we just drop the Gwyneth thing now? It's bloody ridiculous! :rolleyes:

I think that Coldplay's most positive thing today is that they have grown (up) instead of dying, like so many talented, hypersensitve artists we love(d) have unfortunately done.

 

It says a lot about their strength.

 

Can we just drop the Gwyneth thing now? It's bloody ridiculous! :rolleyes:

 

yes indeed :)

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