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positives and negatives for coldplay's rise

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Positives: More songs to listen to

Negative: More songs you will never hear live

positives:

negatives:

*they're a victim to a lot of *extra* harsh criticism just because they are so successful and popular

 

Yeah that's true.I think a lot critics/magazines like to praise new bands/singers and help bring them to the top but then, after some time, start criticizing them once they've been around for a while.I noticed that a bit when I was living in Europe.

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another positive:

they attract females and adult crowds.

 

and, it is true that gwenyth has helped them in their fame. Sad that that influences b (didnt influence me, i recently found out) but its true.

Positive:

Airplay :dance:

I get to natter on about them

 

Negative:

Poséur fans (I'm suprised nobody brought this up)

More rumors of either Chris and Gwyn's marraige breaking up or

rumors of the band breaking up or

stories of Chris having "hissy fits"

people only paying attention to their singles and...

well I guess as Coldplay rises in importance Chris sort of fades back... this is kind of just an example, but a few of you know how I write fiction stories blah blah blah and now I find it harder to write in Chris persona than it was before, because all of those little crevasses of personality and all the small features get pushed underneath this over-inflated-by-the-media sweet, wouldn't harm a fly, charming, dreamy and sensitive exterior and don't get me wrong, that's part of who he is, but I want to know the other half of him that's been hidden by Coldplay's rerise to popularity again

 

(sorry for ranting on about Chris, it's typical of me but it just seems too true)

Positive:

Airplay :dance:

I get to natter on about them

 

Negative:

Poséur fans (I'm suprised nobody brought this up)

More rumors of either Chris and Gwyn's marraige breaking up or

rumors of the band breaking up or

stories of Chris having "hissy fits"

people only paying attention to their singles and...

well I guess as Coldplay rises in importance Chris sort of fades back... this is kind of just an example, but a few of you know how I write fiction stories blah blah blah and now I find it harder to write in Chris persona than it was before, because all of those little crevasses of personality and all the small features get pushed underneath this over-inflated-by-the-media sweet, wouldn't harm a fly, charming, dreamy and sensitive exterior and don't get me wrong, that's part of who he is, but I want to know the other half of him that's been hidden by Coldplay's rerise to popularity again

 

(sorry for ranting on about Chris, it's typical of me but it just seems too true)

Positives- More relaxed

negatives- less artists more entertainers and no more THINGS YOU CAN"T EXPLAIN(LIKE WHEN CHRIS SINGS DAYLIGHT OR A RUSH A BLOOD) BUT WHEN YOU HEAR IT YOU FEEL SO GREAT, FULL WITH EMOTIONS, THAT"S WHAT COLDPLAY WAS ABOUT AND NOW IT's JUST VIVA LA VIDA< BEAUTIFULL SONGS BUT WITHOUT REAL EMOTIONS< JUST CONFETTI< MASK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

VIVA LA VIDA =================SENSATION!!!!!!!THAT"S ALL< JUST ENTERTAINING WITH STYLE< BUT NO ART!!!!!!!

 

i agree 100% with all u just wrote!

negatives : they feel more far away from us than before in spite of their efforts to be close to the audience during gigs. some of the illusion is gone.

 

positives : their next album will be their masterpiece, integrating their former way of working with what they have learned when doing Viva. (I am already waiting impatiently for the EP in march, hope there will be songs we dont know yet ). even though all their work is already up there with other chef d'oeuvres. they are going to blow our minds still. again.

Negatives:

 

The more popular they get the more people will want to see them live, hence the more difficult it will be to get tickets and the more expensive the tickets will get.

 

I fear Gwynie will be the reason they split, I've always thought that she is to Coldplay as Yoko was to The Beatles.

 

I think they will lose their passion and drive.

 

 

Positives:

 

People actually know what I'm talking about when I mention Coldplay.

 

Errr, thats it, or at least I carn't think of any more, my brain has died..............

I think they seem more driven and passionate than ever. Is that just me?

 

To me Viva La Vida shows far more passion than X&Y did.

 

I can't see the comparison between Gwyneth and Yoko either, Gwyneth has absolutely no input in Coldplay's music. In fact they go out of their way to make sure that their careers are as separate from their personal life as possible. I don't see how she can have any more influence on the band dynamic than any of the other wives/girlfriends.

I think they seem more driven and passionate than ever. Is that just me?

 

To me Viva La Vida shows far more passion than X&Y did.

 

I can't see the comparison between Gwyneth and Yoko either, Gwyneth has absolutely no input in Coldplay's music.

 

I COMPLETELY agree. Viva La Vida has waaaaaaayyyyyyy more passion than X & Y.The different instruments, drums, strings, guitars they used is amazing and it makes a lot of difference.The strings for example!Fantastic!And I love the epic, grandiose lyrics of a lot of the songs.Don't get me wrong I love Parachutes and Rush but Viva LA Vida is just as great to me.It's brilliant and full of passion, just in a different way.

 

And, yeah, Gwyneth is NOT Yoko. She's great, stays away from what the band does

Negatives:

 

 

I fear Gwynie will be the reason they split, I've always thought that she is to Coldplay as Yoko was to The Beatles.

 

I think they will lose their passion and drive.

 

 

i have to agree with this because in what ever coldplay does she's always interfered in everything ,eventhough she does or not in each and everything they do her name is added every where.

 

like journalists asking chris what is your wife's reactions hearing these songs,but they aren't bothered to ask what is the whole world's people's reactions would be listening to these songs you wrote.See how highlighted she's every where in an example like this.When she's Chris's wife she has to like it whether she really likes or not.But the world it is not that case they'll not like it if they think that the music they've done is not cool.

 

some people in the world says that songs like cemeteries of london and strawberry swing are written for her when they absolutely doesn't know anything whether it is or not.Okay leave it but what ever they did with the album this time it is only because they want to improve themselves because they have to face a large criticism and negative reactions for X&Y.

 

 

And being YOKO ONO i definitely feel like that because i don't know because of her they may split i think so.Because she's overrated in everything coldplay do by the media.

 

And media attention for Coldplay is less than her's attention.

 

And they are getting some times i told that they are getting this sort of reputation only because of her,but not because of the music they do.:thinking:

Come on Pallavai, may I be the old aunt around here ?

 

You sound like you might just be jealous.. it cannot be useful to be so negative.

 

Dont you know Chris would prefer separating for a moment from his family rather than lose the band ?

Dont you know all what he already has done for Coldplay ? And keeps saying at every occasion that he has the best job and will keep playing music as long as them 4 boys have the friendship going.

 

Please Pallavi leave that woman alone, she is nothing but good.

well what ever you think just think okay.

 

if you disagree with me then no need to reply me at all.

Indeed, no debate here.

I COMPLETELY agree. Viva La Vida has waaaaaaayyyyyyy more passion than X & Y.The different instruments, drums, strings, guitars they used is amazing and it makes a lot of difference.The strings for example!Fantastic!And I love the epic, grandiose lyrics of a lot of the songs.Don't get me wrong I love Parachutes and Rush but Viva LA Vida is just as great to me.It's brilliant and full of passion, just in a different way.

 

And, yeah, Gwyneth is NOT Yoko. She's great, stays away from what the band does

 

I also completely agree with you guys.

 

Lots of passion always, brought out in a different way.

 

On the Yoko line, why not bring in Courtney Love while we're at it? ;)

 

What is so positive (and mature) about Chris and Coldplay is that they know how to not make the same mistakes as their predecessors at the top of universal succes.

I trust them to surround themselves with the best .. energies :)

Positives: everything! The glass is overflowing, spouting water from the top in every direction, careful where you stand or there may be injuries!!

 

Negatives: nothing - there's not even a vacuum where that empty space should be!!

Positives: everything! The glass is overflowing, spouting water from the top in every direction, careful where you stand or there may be injuries!!

 

Negatives: nothing - there's not even a vacuum where that empty space should be!!

Bravo!!! Well said!!!!

You're my man Kimchi :nice:

IT"S SUCH STUPID CONVERSATION GOING ON, YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT GWYNETH, CHRIS SEXY MILITARY JACKET, I DON'T KNOW, COLOURFULL BUTERFLIES, BUT YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MUSIC, THAT'S THE PROBLEM AND THAT IS COLDPLAY NOW, BIG ENTERTAIMENT!!!!

Positives: everything! The glass is overflowing, spouting water from the top in every direction, careful where you stand or there may be injuries!!

 

Negatives: nothing - there's not even a vacuum where that empty space should be!!

 

very good!

 

even i felt a little bit negative about gwyneth's media attention!

 

but really i have to agree that there's really when it comes to Coldplay negatives are not there.

 

:)

 

they're so humble hard working guys!

IT"S SUCH STUPID CONVERSATION GOING ON, YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT GWYNETH, CHRIS SEXY MILITARY JACKET, I DON'T KNOW, COLOURFULL BUTERFLIES, BUT YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MUSIC, THAT'S THE PROBLEM AND THAT IS COLDPLAY NOW, BIG ENTERTAIMENT!!!!

 

:stunned:

 

Lots of lovely music discussion here ;)

very good!

 

even i felt a little bit negative about gwyneth's media attention!

 

but really i have to agree that there's really when it comes to Coldplay negatives are not there.

 

:)

 

they're so humble hard working guys!

 

Thanks my friends, glad some of you liked that :)

 

Coldplay changed my life in 2003, and did so again this year, I wouldn't change that for all the tea in China (or even beer in Britain, which is a closer call!).

 

There are little disappointments of course, but for me it's like a small argument with one of your dearest loved ones - it may threaten to take the shine off a little from time to time, but that inevitably comes with having something so precious. It's not a negative - it's normal, just because some bits aren't as incredible as others!!

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