Obama names Biden as VP running mate

[Texasluvsjonny]

Barack Obama has selected Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware to be his vice presidential running mate.

 

Biden, 65, has been a U.S. senator from Delaware since 1973 and is no stranger to presidential politics. He ran for president in the 1988 campaign and again in this cycle, withdrawing from his first bid amid accusations he had plagiarized passages in campaign speeches and ending his campaign this year after failing to gain support in early races.

 

He's considered one of the leading Democrats on foreign affairs issues and is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Biden voted for the Iraq war in 2002 but subsequently became a major critic of the war effort. He is also known for focusing on women's issues with his Violence Against Women Act and working to put more police officers on the streets.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-23-biden-vp-choice_N.htm

[Saffire]

Joe Biden's mouth is like a poop cannon. Bad choice, because it basically negates Obama's Clinton-like ability to be articulate and verbose without actually saying anything of substance.

 

Mark my words: Biden will offend. And he's not going to win Obama any swing-state votes like a more conservative choice would have.

[coldplay_is_louve.]

don't know much about biden. but okay!! :D

[GazeboflossUK]

Hahaha, Biden.

 

This guy, the CFR member who writes speaches & documents called "How I came to love the New World Order" and “On the Threshold of the New World Order: A Rebirth for the United Nations”.

 

 

"In setting an American agenda for a new world order, we must begin with a profound alteration in traditional thought,” declared Biden back in October, 1992. He's a full blown globalist.

 

I'm not suprised.

[Passenger]

yeah, obama loses the clear advantage of winning a swing state. and yes, most Americans don't even know him.

however, this only leads to the conclusion that it won't change anything. the americans won't hate or love him more. so no damage done yet.

 

let's wait for who's mad enough to support McCain. lol

[Matter-Eater Lad]

yeah, obama loses the clear advantage of winning a swing state. and yes, most Americans don't even know him.

however, this only leads to the conclusion that it won't change anything. the americans won't hate or love him more. so no damage done yet.

 

let's wait for who's mad enough to support McCain. lol

 

McCain is caught up with Obama in most polls. In fact with this pick I think Obama sealed his fate. McCain will win I think. I think McCain will pick Romney.

 

 

Ron Paul 2012?

[GazeboflossUK]

Ron Paul 2012?

 

We can hope.

 

...or anyone who is in support of his principles.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

We can hope.

 

...or anyone who is in support of his principles.

 

That narrows it down to a small amount of people, sadly.:\

[Matter-Eater Lad]

No, the system is so corrupt he'd never stand a chance.

 

Electing Obama, you're just electing a nice friendly face on the same foreign policy and government.

Electing McCain you're just electing a mean tough face on the same foreign policy and government.

 

The end result in America is, the average citizen loses.

[Passenger]

McCain is caught up with Obama in most polls. In fact with this pick I think Obama sealed his fate.

 

 

i wouldn't be sure of it. Obama didn't really lose in the latest polls. but yes, McCain managed to catch up. i mean, 44% to 45% is a close race. however McCain can't keep his mouth shut and he doesn't follow a clear line. and his first speech directly against Obama was held in a Republican area. that means it'll stay an interesting campaign.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

i wouldn't be sure of it. Obama didn't really lose in the latest polls. but yes, McCain managed to catch up. i mean, 44% to 45% is a close race. however McCain can't keep his mouth shut and he doesn't follow a clear line. and his first speech directly against Obama was held in a Republican area. that means it'll stay an interesting campaign.

 

The same is true for Biden and Obama, it truly is an interesting race this year. Biden will weigh Obama down for his big mouth.

[Passenger]

The same is true for Biden and Obama, it truly is an interesting race this year. Biden will weigh Obama down for his big mouth.

 

Probably yes.

But it's so weird how this race developed. i mean, the favourites were stopped in the primaries and now America ends up with a choice between Obama and McCain. is it better? is it worse? i don't know. but perhaps it teaches the candidates a lesson not to start a campaign 2 years prior the election.

[Fixed]

The cheek of all those people asking Obama if he's got any spare change.

[ApproximatelyInfinite]

i'm OK with biden, i think he's a good choice, minus the big-mouth factor. not that i wanted him to pick hillary in the slightest (i'm very glad he didn't stoop that low), but it would have been the best thing for his campaign, i think. now with mccain's VP of palin...i'm more worried than anything.

 

i must say that i was quite impressed with biden's speech at the DNC last night, though.

 

obama's was amazing as well, but amazing is par for him. i was still in love with it, but other speeches of his have moved me more, personally.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

I just think its funny how his supporters are swept up in his "change", how easily fooled people are. But it's vise versa for McCain, his supporter are easily fooled by him too.

[yellowbug]

It's not about being fooled. What would Obama have to gain by "fooling" us? What, so he can become president and implement a different agenda than he promised? Wow, what trickery! :rolleyes:

 

I don't think people are being naive; they are being hopeful and taking a chance on a fresh face and idea. What's wrong with that? If we end up being duped, so what! At least we took a CHANCE on change, instead of settling with the cowardly decision of keeping the status quo because of fear of shaking things up.

[ApproximatelyInfinite]

^agreed. i'd rather go for change in the way obama's describing it than status quo.

 

obama's going to make mistakes too. i just hope he's not going to lie to his entire country, get us into a never-ending war, and leave everything up to his VP like someone we know.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

It's not about being fooled. What would Obama have to gain by "fooling" us? What, so he can become president and implement a different agenda than he promised? Wow, what trickery! :rolleyes:

 

I don't think people are being naive; they are being hopeful and taking a chance on a fresh face and idea. What's wrong with that? If we end up being duped, so what! At least we took a CHANCE on change, instead of settling with the cowardly decision of keeping the status quo because of fear of shaking things up.

 

The same thing Bush gained from fooling people in 2 elections...money, power, and then money and power for his friends and family and a place in history, his views forced upon the world.....

 

Change for what? a physical change will be the only thing. The policies will be the same. Dems and Repubs just talk differently but act the same when it comes to their policy. They say what people want to hear, and do what they want in the end. Obama is no different then Bush, only physically different.

 

Because people are not willing to learn, we will always be in a cycle of the same morons leading us. All they have to do is talk big and people will be easily fooled. Obama will talk about change but in the end no chang will happen, and in the next election the same type of person will say what the nations wants to hear and they'll end up doing the same policies of Bush, Obama or McCain and the American people will pay the price.

 

We are so easily fooled by corrupt men who speak well, in the end we pay the price.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Both parties are almost the exact same, they just talk differently, thats all.

 

Also Bush fooled many and followed a different agenda then he promised.....it's common procedure for politicians to do this. They say what they want people to hear, and do the opposite.

 

in 2008 the cycle of horrible politicians will continue.

[talkingonsquareone89]

great. so between both the candidates, obama and mccain....who's less of a monster?

 

even THAT kind of approach to choose doesn't get an answer either.

 

 

wrong, but it's been amusing how my 10-year-old cousin has been summing up the presidential race too: "we're fucked."

(don't worry, he did get into trouble for his word choice, LoL)

[chuck kottke]

Since independent voters will be looking for the candidate that takes a stance on a tough issue and hold firm, I believe Obama will do just that. He did that with the Iraq war vote when the rest of his colleagues were playing it career-safe and towing the line. Joe Biden might be persuasive in Pennsylvania, and having experience in foreign affairs could lend credibility to the campaign, as now they have some experience in that field.

[chuck kottke]

It takes constant pressure from the public to get them to do the right things - so while often the fat cats call the shots, when there's an issue that the public is strongly for or against, and it cannot be ignored or bought away, mounting pressures do win out over corporate cash. But it takes incredible public support and relentless pressure to make that happen; maybe this is the year the public gets the franchise...

[A RUSH OF VIDA]

GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!....

[luckycharms2987]

Both parties are not exactly the same. Yes they are both people, but deep down they view things much differently. Conservatives or republicans usually want to keep things the same, "conserve" the constitution. They also go for large buisnesses and dont usually support welfare and or social problems in the world. Where as liberals are those who want to liberate(usually the liberal/demorcratic party supports change. They see need for individual help. and support government help to smaller buisnesses and to the individual people such as welfare programs. There is much more that separates these two parties and it usually can determine what one you personally fall under. *unless u just dont give a shit bout politics*

 

Me personally, I am very liberal and I believe barack will bring change. It may not be big change, but anything that what is going on right now. could and i hope will be better. Bush has pretty much destroyed this economy.

 

I think if we have mccain it just be more of the same thing., Another very conservative man running our country. and nothing will change, his policies line up to be bout 90-95% agreement to George W. Bush.

 

This country neeeeds change whether it is small or big.

 

I dont think mccain is bad because he is a conservative, because I did not mind ron paul, mainly cuz he was a bit more liberal on his social issues. Such as things like gay marriage.

But mccain is EXTREMELY far right conservative, and I dont want someone like that running the country that I live in.

 

and that is just mine personal opinion.

 

SOOOO whoever you are for be it mccain or obama. VOTE if you can!

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Both parties are not exactly the same. Yes they are both people, but deep down they view things much differently. Conservatives or republicans usually want to keep things the same, "conserve" the constitution. They also go for large buisnesses and dont usually support welfare and or social problems in the world. Where as liberals are those who want to liberate(usually the liberal/demorcratic party supports change. They see need for individual help. and support government help to smaller buisnesses and to the individual people such as welfare programs. There is much more that separates these two parties and it usually can determine what one you personally fall under. *unless u just dont give a shit bout politics*

 

Me personally, I am very liberal and I believe barack will bring change. It may not be big change, but anything that what is going on right now. could and i hope will be better. Bush has pretty much destroyed this economy.

 

I think if we have mccain it just be more of the same thing., Another very conservative man running our country. and nothing will change, his policies line up to be bout 90-95% agreement to George W. Bush.

 

This country neeeeds change whether it is small or big.

 

I dont think mccain is bad because he is a conservative, because I did not mind ron paul, mainly cuz he was a bit more liberal on his social issues. Such as things like gay marriage.

But mccain is EXTREMELY far right conservative, and I dont want someone like that running the country that I live in.

 

and that is just mine personal opinion.

 

SOOOO whoever you are for be it mccain or obama. VOTE if you can!

 

Thats sadly what most Americans believe and will keep the same party in power. Its clear to see they talk differently but act almost the same...

 

Obama's policies will line up to Bushs. His major policies at least. Of course on small non important issue's they won't but on taxes, foreign policy, military, bussiness and stuff like that they will be exactly the same. why? because they're all controlled by lobbyist and big bussiness who get them elected and they are their slaves

 

Follow the money, they aren't elected by the people, they are elected by the millions of dollars of rich men, corporations and lobbyist. Thus they will be loyal to the people who paid for them to be in power. When a politician gets into office they owe a trillion favors for the millions of dollars that paid for their election, thus they are bought and mostly the same people buy both parties. Do research people.

 

Always follow the money, the elected officials do!