September 10, 200817 yr I dont get how people can even think the big bang theory works. Its like going to someone's house and saying" hmmm, there was a massive explosion here and as a result this perfectly built house has come. Amazing" What dumb asses! well, do you have any better ideas?! :P :lol: there's heaps and heaps of science to back up the theory. people wouldn't believe in it if it didn't make sense to the smartest minds around, and it does. and it's not just like "POOF! ok, perfect universe is formed;" it just set the formation of everything into motion. the universe wouldn't be as we know it to be now for billions of years! do we know the actual date when they'll test it? i should work on my list for then too :P Q: are all sorts of religious groups freaking out that the judgement day is upon us? i haven't heard anything, and i would imagine this is kind of their gig. unless the end of the world can't be man made...:rolleyes:
September 10, 200817 yr It's obvious that it isn't a fake, many people have studied and worked at this, sometimes this kind of stuff seems of paranoiacs but I think that it's more serious than they want to show us. Probably it won't be the end of nothing if they test it, but this could change some little important things, who knows?? It might be a scientific historical discovery, but nobody can assure us that it won't be harmful!
September 10, 200817 yr And that experiment they're about to do isn't the first one. It was done before.
September 10, 200817 yr I read this on a yahoo article, and it made me laugh but kinda scared me too, if it did happen....surreal that they're writing things like this..... ahahah "Some critics say the experiment will create "black holes" of intense gravity that could implode the Earth, or that it will open the way for beings from another universe to invade through a "worm hole" in space-time."
September 10, 200817 yr I read this on a yahoo article, and it made me laugh but kinda scared me too, if it did happen....surreal that they're writing things like this..... ahahah "Some critics say the experiment will create "black holes" of intense gravity that could implode the Earth, or that it will open the way for beings from another universe to invade through a "worm hole" in space-time." hahahaha, that was NOT even a possibility that i thought of/heard anyone even worrying about. i thought the main worry was the black hole thing, which at least sounds realistic, and perhaps a wormhole, but a wormhole that could actually be USED? jeez, it's not like it would be THAT easy to use, really, or that we'd put out the welcome mat. all the worries just crack me up.
September 10, 200817 yr Large Hadron Collider "Actually Worked" Mason Inman for National Geographic News September 10, 2008 The world's largest atom smasher's first experiment went off today without a hitch, paving the way toward the recreation of post-big bang conditions. The Large Hadron Collider fired a beam of protons inside a circular, 17-mile (27-kilometer) long tunnel underneath villages and cow pastures at the French-Swiss border. Inside the control room, physicists and engineers cautiously shot the beam down part of the tunnel, stopping it before it went all the way around. "Oh, we made it through!" one person cried as the beam made it through a further section of the tunnel. One hour after starting up, on the first attempt to send the beam circling all the way around the tunnel, it completed the trip successfully—bringing raucous applause. "First of all, I didn't believe it," said Verena Kain, a European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) engineer. "I had to see it a second time, and I thought, Oh, wow, it actually worked!" "Things can go wrong at any time, but luckily this morning everything went smoothly," said Lyn Evans of CERN, who oversaw the building of the accelerator. Birth of the Universe The collider "was first proposed more than 20 years ago," said Django Manglunki, an accelerator physicist at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), on Tuesday. "We've been preparing that beam for more than ten years." "It's difficult to realize that the machine, at last, is starting now," he added. (See photos of the collider.) By creating hundreds of thousands of head-on collisions each second, physicists hope to understand the fiery conditions of the universe a trillionth of a second after the big bang. Another enigma that could be at least partially explained is dark matter, the invisible material thought to be the most common in the universe. Very Big Staircase In several months CERN's physicists plan to use two beams, each with 2,808 bunches of protons, each of which contains a hundred billion protons—positively charged particles found in the nuclei of atoms. Out of each collision, a spray of energy and other assorted particles will form. Scientists will study which particles show up, how often, and exactly how they fly out of the collisions. (Learn more about atom smashers.) But on Wednesday, CERN scientists will first try to thread a single bunch of two billion protons through the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). "We will have a very low-intensity beam, so [in case of a problem] we can lose the beam without damaging the machine," Manglunki said. Once the team gets the beam circulating all the way around the tunnel—which may happen in a couple of hours—the scientists will send in several bunches at a time. Getting the first beam circulating, Manglunki said, is "one step in a very big staircase"—the long process of conceiving, designing, building, and finally running the experiment. (See: "Broken Magnet Highlights Largest Collider's Engineering Challenges" [April 13, 2007].) Although the physicists have done various tests on the machine already, "ultimately it's the beam that can tell you if everything is working," he added. Later, they will attempt to get another beam of protons circulating through the tunnel in the opposite direction—a prelude to colliding the two beams. Dark Matter Particle In addition to spotting the Higgs boson, another early reward could be evidence of supersymmetry. The supersymmetry theory says that all the particles known today have much more massive—and as yet undetected—partners. "There are strong reasons to believe that these new particles include the particle that makes up the cosmic dark matter that accounts for 80 percent of the matter in universe," said Michael Peskin, a particle physicist at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center in Menlo Park, California. (Related: "Dark Matter Proof Found, Scientists Say" [August 22, 2006].) The collisions could also create a zoo of new particles, experts say. "If any of these theories are right, the LHC should be turning up the evidence for these particles by next summer," Peskin said. But there could also be some big surprises. "It might turn out to be like the 1950s, when we were discovering many new particles and had no clue about how they fit into a coherent picture," Peskin said. "I hope it will turn out like that," he added. "This is what makes science fun." No Cause for Alarm Some people are worried that the experiments could also create unwelcome discoveries, such as particles and other exotic phenomena that could swallow up Earth or destroy the universe as we know it. For instance, one possibility is that the collisions will pack matter together so tightly that it may collapse to form miniature black holes. But reviews by both CERN physicists and independent researchers argue that, even if such black holes do form, there's no reason for alarm (watch video). "Collisions just like those the [atom-smasher] will make have been produced by cosmic rays bombarding the Earth throughout its existence," said a statement from the American Physical Society. The most energetic cosmic rays are particles that pack much more energy than those in the Large Hadron Collider—so much so that physicists still aren't sure how the most powerful cosmic rays get created. (See: "Black Holes Belch Universe's Most Energetic Particles" [November 8, 2007].) Steve Giddings, a physicist at the University of California, Santa Barbara, is actually hoping miniature black holes do show up, along with other evidence supporting string theory—an unproven theory that describes subatomic particles as though they are tiny vibrating strings. "It would be extremely exciting to see string properties directly. And that is possible if there are extra dimensions of space that are configured just the right way," Giddings said. "[seeing] all of this would be the ultimate jackpot scenario." http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080910-collider-success.html
September 10, 200817 yr *starts singing* It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. *does Micheal Stipe dance* Anticlimax anyone? We should have trusted our intellectual superiors such as Steven Hawking! You know, my physics teacher hasn't stopped talking about this all week, and I even listened to the switch on live on the radio. Yes, I'm THAT cool!! :P *leaves thread*
September 10, 200817 yr Awww Emma, thanks for mentioning me!:D *Looks around* Oh im still here too!!!!
September 10, 200817 yr ^that's exactly when i remembered this morning that i was "supposed" to be dead: when i was straightening my hair in the mirror :lol: though i do suppose that we could have been sucked into some alternate universe or something that is surprisingly like ours and we just haven't figured it out yet...:P
September 10, 200817 yr & here i was thinking that the world was going to end Dec 12, 2012.. oops.. :laugh3:
September 10, 200817 yr Hell yeah for physics geeks! :cool: i'm one of those guys!! thats totally going in my sig! :laugh3:
September 10, 200817 yr I wish I would have been here before to bash you all for believing the world was gonna end today!! That's until 2012!! :lol: :P
September 11, 200817 yr I'm al little freaked out because on the news it just said that the shock atom samsher thing caused huge earthquakes in Japan and Iran and stuff!! and also that it made hurricane IKE stronger...BIG earthquakes like 6.4 and 7.0 and stuff :stunned:
September 11, 200817 yr I'm al little freaked out because on the news it just said that the shock atom samsher thing caused huge earthquakes in Japan and Iran and stuff!! and also that it made hurricane IKE stronger...BIG earthquakes like 6.4 and 7.0 and stuff :stunned: No no no, the only danger it has would be creating a black hole which it won't.
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