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Do you often find yourself defending 21st century music?


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this has been a very very big issue for me over the last 2 or 3 years as i discover more and more great new music. i've lost count of the number of people who have said to me "music nowadays sucks" or "man i wish music was like it was back in the 70s or 80s" or sometimes "everyone just sounds the same". now part of me does agree with them. when i listen to the great albums from the 70s and even earlier i am absolutely blown away by how amazing they are. but what people forget is all the shit that was also around at the time, people view that era of music with rose-tinted glasses (only see what they want to see). if your only memories of the 60s are the beatles, rolling stones and the who then of course you're going think that those were the best days. and i very very strongly believe that the same can be said for modern music

 

am i the only person who has experienced this? does anyone here firmly believe that music is at its lowest point? anyone lost all faith in the music scene and up and coming artists?

 

i'm not saying that music is any better or worse than it was 30 or 40 years ago its just different and people need to accept that and stop living in the past. i'm sure their parents hated what they listened to.

 

there is alot more i want to say but i want to read peoples responses first.

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I personally know alot more about the modern music scene just because its easier to follow something you are experiencing as it happens.

(i.e. I'll never know the excitement of a Led Zepp album coming out)

I love a lot albums from the 70s etc, but for the most part..what I listen to is from the last 10 years.

I've been encouraged by the creativity and uniqueness of many bands that have come out in recent years. I think part of the problem is that there is just so much exposure and easy access to music. So for every Radiohead, there are 10 Nickelbacks...that sort of thing.

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If you are asking this question as far as what is considered to be "mainstream" is concerned, then yes, I would say that it's not as good as it was back in the day. However, I can't say that music has decreased in quality up to now, because a lot of my favorite stuff is from modern day. I think I besically am trying to say what Briggins said, but not really...? :confused:

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I don't think music is as good now.

 

While there is crap in every musical era, there has always been an elite group of shining lights who are leading the way. How many shining lights have there been over the last 10 years? Sorry, I will put the best artists of the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s up against the best to come out of the 21st century any day of the week.

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Yeah, in about 20 years we'll only remember Coldplay, Radiohead, Sigur Ros, Arcade Fire, The Killers etc. and (hopefully) will forget about Miley Cyrus, katy perry etc. because that stuff will (also hopefully) never stand the test of time. Then when crap like those two aforementioned artists gets popular we'll dismiss the whole decade and fly back down nostalgia road.

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The musical scene got worse, and it's pretty rare to deny that.

There are no supergroups anymore, the closest we get to a supergroup is U2, which doesn't even get close to Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Genesis, Yes, The Who and so on...

 

Still, there are great bands. The problem is that the good bands are alternativa and the lame bands are mainstream.

 

But we have one GREAT advantage: The internet, where you can download everything that has been released in any media FOR FREE.

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here is the main reason i think alot of people have such a negative view of 21st century music. rock n roll music at least.

 

Navegador named some of the all time great bands. besides being soo awesome they have one other thing in common. they were all incredible musicians, virtuoso's to a certain extent. that era of music gave us the likes of jimmy page, eric clapton, david gilmour and keith richards. so when fans of that music listen to modern music they expect the same level of muscianship to be leaping out of the speakers, massive solo's, frenetic drumming and heavy basslines. but of course there's little or none of that in music these days regardless of where u look whether its Muse or White Stripes or Bloc Party. the best guitarist these day restrict themselves to killer riffs rather than self indulgent solo's which i think is one of the best attributes of rock music nowadays. too many people are accustomed to music being obviously and clearly amazing very few people take the time to listen carefully and appreciate what is actually going on.

 

there's another reason i have but i'll save that for next time.

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The musical scene got worse, and it's pretty rare to deny that.

There are no supergroups anymore, the closest we get to a supergroup is U2, which doesn't even get close to Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Genesis, Yes, The Who and so on...

 

Still, there are great bands. The problem is that the good bands are alternativa and the lame bands are mainstream.

 

But we have one GREAT advantage: The internet, where you can download everything that has been released in any media FOR FREE.

i agree with you.

i think that some modern bands wouldn't had existed if some old bands weren't formed before.

 

the bad thing about mainstream is that sometimes good bands get too much media attention and so people end tired of them, even when they are pretty talented or have some good things to say, and on the other hand, even very bad artists get attention, and even get to be the year hit, even when people laugh at them and nobody will remember them (may be will remember their hit but never the band who played that).

 

here is the main reason i think alot of people have such a negative view of 21st century music. rock n roll music at least.

 

Navegador named some of the all time great bands. besides being soo awesome they have one other thing in common. they were all incredible musicians, virtuoso's to a certain extent. that era of music gave us the likes of jimmy page, eric clapton, david gilmour and keith richards. so when fans of that music listen to modern music they expect the same level of muscianship to be leaping out of the speakers, massive solo's, frenetic drumming and heavy basslines. but of course there's little or none of that in music these days regardless of where u look whether its Muse or White Stripes or Bloc Party. the best guitarist these day restrict themselves to killer riffs rather than self indulgent solo's which i think is one of the best attributes of rock music nowadays. too many people are accustomed to music being obviously and clearly amazing very few people take the time to listen carefully and appreciate what is actually going on.

 

there's another reason i have but i'll save that for next time.

those old bands were very well prepared musically, is not the first old band who took music lessons seriously for many years. so obviously they were able to compose better songs (musically speaking) and were more virtuoso when playing.

 

now everybody can learn any instrument by themselves in few time, and so we don't get what a regular lesson would give us. (most people just play other band songs, instead of learn music, i mean learn some theory and be able to compose properly) plus we can start playing an instrument from the first (like an electric guitar), when back in the 60's things weren't like things are now.

 

anyways those kind of comparisons will always happen.

for me that is like classic question about music:

which one is better the beatles or the rolling stones?

those dual questions will never have a clear only answer.

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now the other reason i had for why theres sooo much negativity towards this era of music was the dominance of alternative bands. the best 'rock' bands seem to mix their sound in with another genres. you look back at the 60s and 70s and rock bands were well...........rock bands. guitar vocals bass and drums and maybe keys making regular straight out rock n roll. 21st century bands tend to more often than not combine their rock sound with electronics or heavy strings or maybe some rapping or wild screaming. alot of people fall in love with a band because they have such a great rock sound then when they go deeper into their catalogue they discover that they have a range of other sounds that they dont quite like.

 

take muse for example, great band great musicians but they have this whole space rock thing going with heavy effects and synthesisers which im sure turns alot of pure rock fans away. bloc party are very similar in that sense. arctic monkeys have a great rock n roll sound but their almost spoken lyrics i'm sure has turned off alot of people.

 

like i said before music is just as good now as it was 30-40yrs ago. its the 21st century music fan thats has changed. meaningless disposable tunes are the order of the day and will remain that way for a very long time. the attitudes of alot of music fans are quite irritating and that possibly is turning people away also.

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