So whatever didn't happen in Copenhagen now, doesn't it make you feel funny?

To be honest, I'm terribly bewildered what this thread put into display.

There were only a handful of people responding, and half of them think, climate change isn't something to worry about.

 

My thought about it is: even if it isn't half as urgent as the activists say, it still would make sense to care about your planet. To take resposibilty. To listen to Thom Yorke, if you put him into your signature, which you do to show how much you like him. Only musically? You don't get the best of him, imo.

 

You are as square as your ancestors. You are boring, lame and crazy. You are the reason, why we are doomed. Live with it, all you ceolsiges and Mr.Nicks. And do me the favour of spilling your stupidity over me. That's just sad, every day life.

 

Your irresponsibilty sucks major ass. Your poo- talks and homophobia sucks major ass.

That, Reilly, is the main reason, why we are doomed, as far as I'm concerned.

 

 

To all those, who read this but didn't respond here personally, though they are concerned and are/ plan to get active: I didn't talk to you. I think that's obvious.

 

Get active. Love, Heiner.

Here is my conclusion to this thread etc.

 

I don't think just because you listen to an artist you have to agree with their political, religious, economic, social beliefs...so using Thom Yorke in your signature is fine even if you don't agree with everything he says or does.

 

And with Nick, at least he has thought this through, and has reasons behind his beliefs. Agree or disagree with them, it is apparent that he is using his brain and making what he views as an informed discussion. And he, along with many of us, has expressed concern for the way that we are currently using the world's resources. So props for that.

 

However, you have to be completely naive to think that you have no impact in polluting the world, or that it doesn't matter, or doesn't impact you, or will never impact you. We are rapidly using up resources, our society is dependent on fossil fuels (a limited resource). We are used to convenience and throw away products. Thats how things operate. But that doesn't mean its right. And it doesn't mean we can live like this forever.

And if you don't believe in climate change just for the sake of not believing it, or you don't have a reason, that is pure stupidity and you should just shut up about the issue.

 

That being said, I encourage anybody who reads this to make changes, take steps to reduce your carbon foot print, to use less resources, to live a more sustainable lifestyle. Think about where the things you use are coming from and what goes into their creation. Think about what you value in life. Think about the future.

 

Use your brain, and don't be stupid.

Here is my conclusion to this thread etc.

 

I don't think just because you listen to an artist you have to agree with their political, religious, economic, social beliefs...so using Thom Yorke in your signature is fine even if you don't agree with everything he says or does.

 

And with Nick, at least he has thought this through, and has reasons behind his beliefs. Agree or disagree with them, it is apparent that he is using his brain and making what he views as an informed discussion. And he, along with many of us, has expressed concern for the way that we are currently using the world's resources. So props for that.

 

However, you have to be completely naive to think that you have no impact in polluting the world, or that it doesn't matter, or doesn't impact you, or will never impact you. We are rapidly using up resources, our society is dependent on fossil fuels (a limited resource). We are used to convenience and throw away products. Thats how things operate. But that doesn't mean its right. And it doesn't mean we can live like this forever.

And if you don't believe in climate change just for the sake of not believing it, or you don't have a reason, that is pure stupidity and you should just shut up about the issue.

 

That being said, I encourage anybody who reads this to make changes, take steps to reduce your carbon foot print, to use less resources, to live a more sustainable lifestyle. Think about where the things you use are coming from and what goes into their creation. Think about what you value in life. Think about the future.

 

Use your brain, and don't be stupid.

 

nicely put

Could you teach me how to bear the frustration though? I really suck at that, I too spend a lot of time in ignorant bliss, but every once in a while, like with Copenhagen now, I get incredibly angry and delirious. Really, what could I do to cool down in such situations?

Could you teach me how to bear the frustration though? I really suck at that, I too spend a lot of time in ignorant bliss, but every once in a while, like with Copenhagen now, I get incredibly angry and delirious. Really, what could I do to cool down in such situations?

 

I was really frustrated and angry about what happened in Copenhagen as well. The key is turning that negative energy and emotions into something that motivates you and propels you.

Like right now I'm so pissed off with our leadership that I can't help but e-mail my Prime Minister and local politicians, I can't help but put stuff up on facebook expressing my views. The last few days I've been telling anybody who will listen whats going on and why I feel the way I do.

May this discussion proceed.

People are irresponsible. Ecological issues are the major concern of modern times. When people learn that money can't be eaten they will act. But people don't act either because of indolence, stupidity or lack of conscience. "I'll let my great grand children worry about that":

that's why our world is so fucked up, people are blind and selfish.

Yes! Look at the few and sad responses that 'coldplayers will safe the world- thread' got. It's incredible, how ignorant people are. Passive, boring.

Maybe they thought they couldn't really do anything worthwhile or joining the group wouldn't further their efforts

 

It's incredible, how ignorant people are

You are as square as your ancestors. You are boring, lame and crazy. You are the reason, why we are doomed. Live with it, all you ceolsiges and Mr.Nicks/QUOTE]

 

Go fry your brain cells some more and leave us alone.

Ah Nick, you're angry at me and I'm sorry for that. I got angry too, but I guess you might give a shit about why I was angry back then, or you could think it's ridiculous to get angry about it.

I admit, that I get heavily annoyed and feel provoked by how many people don't seem to care. Well, I shouldn't, cuz it's not a tad constructive.

 

You hit back, I accept the pelt, since I started being polemic and unfriendly.

 

I still don't perceive this being a topic anyone could handle carelessly or not at all, or get sarcastic about though. And you seemed to never respond to my wish to stay clear of arguments, that imo lead the disussion off- topic/ were distracting killer- arguments.

Maybe they thought they couldn't really do anything worthwhile or joining the group wouldn't further their efforts

 

Yeah probably. It's a pity how few and how sparsely the answers were. I thought the idea of that facebook group ( getting more people into charity/ environmental issues) wasn't so bad/ naive. One of course has to take good care of which NGO to support, but the ones picked here seem to be ok.

 

 

 

I sense that I'm pissing people off with all this, wrong place maybe. Nevermind.

will what happens to the people of japan/ fukushima daiichi change anything worldwide?

 

what's really important/ what's just not?

 

don't you think this age will once be regarded as extraordinarily stupid?

 

what can you do to make a difference?

 

 

 

discuss kids, this is your world. you ARE all responsible for it, you should be loving it,

take great care of it, because it's the most beautiful precious and rather small/delicate thing we got.

 

 

(again: please refrain from idiotic sarcasm, because this simply isn't a funny topic.)

will what happens to the people of japan/ fukushima daiichi change anything worldwide?

 

what's really important/ what's just not?

 

don't you think this age will once be regarded as extraordinarily stupid?

 

what can you do to make a difference?

 

 

 

discuss kids, this is your world. you ARE all responsible for it, you should be loving it,

take great care of it, because it's the most beautiful precious and rather small/delicate thing we got.

 

 

(again: please refrain from idiotic sarcasm, because this simply isn't a funny topic.)

 

I agree with what you are saying at the end. I wish it could change something worldwide, but I am afraid it doesn't...mankind is just too selfish....well I find it ridiculous

well I know this isn't much I am saying there, but I wish I could discuss something like this in my own language....I find it hard to do in english esp. when it is almost midnight

will what happens to the people of japan/ fukushima daiichi change anything worldwide?

 

what's really important/ what's just not?

 

don't you think this age will once be regarded as extraordinarily stupid?

 

what can you do to make a difference?

 

 

 

discuss kids, this is your world. you ARE all responsible for it, you should be loving it,

take great care of it, because it's the most beautiful precious and rather small/delicate thing we got.

 

 

(again: please refrain from idiotic sarcasm, because this simply isn't a funny topic.)

 

Idiotic sarcasm aboard, why are the kids suddenly responsible?

ah yeah.....we (the kids) are not responsible for it at the moment...we can only try and make it better in the future....

I agree with what you are saying at the end. I wish it could change something worldwide, but I am afraid it doesn't...mankind is just too selfish....well I find it ridiculous

well I know this isn't much I am saying there, but I wish I could discuss something like this in my own language....I find it hard to do in english esp. when it is almost midnight

 

oh yeah, explaining stuff in english is absurdly difficult sometimes, non?

i'm literally frustrated with almost each of me posts.:freak:

 

Idiotic sarcasm aboard, why are the kids suddenly responsible?

 

we all are, don't you think? for what we do and don't do. just because this isn't a popular fact, it's still a fact, imo. and if more people saw that we all just forgot some fundamental facts, that would make the whole difference.

(i didn't mean that they are responsible for fukushima, if you thought i was referring to that?? :thinking: )

 

ah yeah.....we (the kids) are not responsible for it at the moment...we can only try and make it better in the future....

 

yep. but most people always wait for something big to happen/ someone other to start.

and start with what? well, i guess starting to live up to the factual responsibility ( which will be a great great pleasure for all of us, and can be realised with a lot of humour. i think there would be less depressed people for example, because there'll be more actual SENSE in this world. more soul, respect, love even ( love being the same as sense and responsibility- again - i really mean that.)

 

i do have a great example of an idea how to actually do sth. a friend of my mother roams the streets of her rather gloomy little german suburb with a hord of kids. they clean up the place, put color on the electricity boxes, plant fruits and vegetables in public places and take care of them. they are taking baths in the village fountain/ main square when it's ultra hot. plus loads of other great ideas, she's very creative. she teaches those kids active participation/ responsibility for their immediate surrounding. some of them are from extremely neglected backgrounds (both rich and poor), where they never get such input.

those kids LOVE these gatherings, and I'm sure it changes their view on life and what you are able to achieve and change (for the better/ funnier/more colourful) tremendously.

 

there's so much to do just in everybodies environment.

i just reread this thread, and reilly i agree on the overpopulation problem, no way/ idea how to solve that, uhm well, without being nastily sarcastic that is. :wacky:

i just reread this thread, and reilly i agree on the overpopulation problem, no way/ idea how to solve that, uhm well, without being nastily sarcastic that is. :wacky:

 

the western governments have found a solution :awesome:

 

war and famine

but do you really think southern/eastern governments would be- ahem, sorry ARE- better than that, if they had more to say?

no they just follow the ppl who really are ruling the world

so?

i don't see how staying in the victim's position will help out here? i have a great article about this, it's from a tibetan guy, i'll try find it and post the link.

 

 

btw, wouldn't have african and asian people have done the very same if they had been in the position of colonialising europe?

 

 

 

do the people of indonesia care about the people of africa? do the palestinians care about the tibetan people? do african people care about palestinian people? etc.pp. aren't we just all total losers in one way or another?

written by a tibetan. tibetans eat a lot of shit imposed on them by an eastern country. do the other eastern countries around care about that? :wideeyed:

 

about the cult of victimhood:

 

http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2010/03/31/cult-of-victimhood-two-studies/

the western governments have found a solution :awesome:

 

war and famine

 

and thanks for reminding me of the unparalleled peaceful history of the asian, latin-american and african continents, where every nation loves the other and where there is no racism/ genocide or imperialism or religious fundamentalism. oha, and women have the greatestest of times most of all in africa and asia, it's one amusing party. :)

 

 

sorry for the sarcasm though. nouratan, i think you should give up the thought that the western governments are responsible for all the shit in this world. the west caused a lot of injustice, i think everybody right in his mind agrees on that. and the results are still plenty and do hurt, of course. but....

oh yeah, explaining stuff in english is absurdly difficult sometimes, non?

i'm literally frustrated with almost each of me posts.:freak:

 

 

 

we all are, don't you think? for what we do and don't do. just because this isn't a popular fact, it's still a fact, imo. and if more people saw that we all just forgot some fundamental facts, that would make the whole difference.

(i didn't mean that they are responsible for fukushima, if you thought i was referring to that?? :thinking: )

 

 

 

yep. but most people always wait for something big to happen/ someone other to start.

and start with what? well, i guess starting to live up to the factual responsibility ( which will be a great great pleasure for all of us, and can be realised with a lot of humour. i think there would be less depressed people for example, because there'll be more actual SENSE in this world. more soul, respect, love even ( love being the same as sense and responsibility- again - i really mean that.)

 

i do have a great example of an idea how to actually do sth. a friend of my mother roams the streets of her rather gloomy little german suburb with a hord of kids. they clean up the place, put color on the electricity boxes, plant fruits and vegetables in public places and take care of them. they are taking baths in the village fountain/ main square when it's ultra hot. plus loads of other great ideas, she's very creative. she teaches those kids active participation/ responsibility for their immediate surrounding. some of them are from extremely neglected backgrounds (both rich and poor), where they never get such input.

those kids LOVE these gatherings, and I'm sure it changes their view on life and what you are able to achieve and change (for the better/ funnier/more colourful) tremendously.

 

there's so much to do just in everybodies environment.

 

It is a shame that those things your friend's mother does are so rare. I've been considering doing something like that someday in the future...I don't know if it is just a vision or if it really changes something in their view of things and if I just imagine it to be much easier than it actually is (I think I am dreaming too much sometimes and reality is worse [of course])

 

I get rather worried about the future when I think about what our society will become or already has become...

 

though I kinda like the recent discussions about nuclear plants going on in this country...I have the impression that more people get aware of it esp. those who aren't usually interested in politics....I am afraid though that the government will fuck it up anyway and in some weeks or months nobody will be talking about it anymore....well not in such a serious way

 

(is this reply actually appropriate to this topic? I am serious, I barely reply in topics like this one, because I ama fraid I got have gotten anything wrong in what it is about...oh well)