"SEATTLE - A Seattle police officer is shown punching a young woman in the face in a witness video aired on several television stations. Police confirm that an officer punched a young woman Monday after a jaywalking stop escalated. They say in a statement that the unidentified officer believed the woman was trying to help another young woman escape and had "placed her hands on the officer's arm."

 

Police say the young women were verbally and physically abusive.

 

Sgt. Sean Whitcomb said late Monday that police were "glad no one was seriously hurt." He added there would be a full investigation.

 

Police say medics checked the women. A 19-year-old was arrested for investigation of obstructing an officer. A 17-year-old was arrested for investigation of assaulting an officer. Both were cited for jaywalking.

 

A wide-ranging investigation is under way after an April 17 video showed two Seattle officers kicking a suspect."

 

The girl was resisting arrest and physically pushed the officer, so he had a right to defend himself...but...the punch was a little much. :P

COPS ARE HEROES! :D

That's how you deal with people, punch them in the face :blank:

 

 

Wait, what is Jay walking?

I seriously hope you're not saying cops have the "right" to punch people in the face.

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jaywalking

"To protect and serve."

"To protect and serve."

 

She would have got tazed in Houston. HPD would taze their own mothers. :dozey:

I had a guy on my lacrosse team once tell me that he's joining the marines, and if he was ordered to kill his mother he would. Fucking patriots...

That's how you deal with people, punch them in the face :blank:

 

 

Wait, what is Jay walking?

Jaywalking (in the U.S.) is when you walk across the street in a place that is not specifically designated for crossing the street. Even if there are no cars coming, it is still illegal to jaywalk. I actually have a friend who was stopped by an officer in our town and given a citation for jaywalking. It may seem silly, but... the law is the law.

 

And by the way, people should look at the whole video that goes to this. It's hard to say whether what he did was appropriate, but the girl that got punched was trying to man-handle the cop in defense of her friend who was actually doing the jaywalking. And the jaywalker was also fighting back/resisting arrest/whatever. So basically it was him versus two out-of-control chicks. He had to subdue at least one of them somehow for his own safety...

WAIT. I HAVE A BETTER IDEA. He could have stayed the fuck out of the girl's business :dozey:

Using the reasoning "the law is the law" is the most immature way of thinking possible. Imagine if Harriet Tubman or Martin Luther King had said "the law is the law". Nothing ever changes if we just blindly follow what lawmakers say.

I think that jaywalking is one of the most idiotic offenses. I think that honestly most laws (like drug laws) should in some senses be removed. The reason is because people need to know how to use the right amount of judgment into what they are doing. I mean if you are an adult, you should know better that taking too much of something or walking across the street can kill you. Of course people won't use the right amount of judgment, but I feel that people should take their lives in their own hands, unless it's something that can effect the life of someone else.

He punched her because she was black. I'm sure this white and fat jackass wouldn't have punched her if the girl had been white, blonde, and with nice tits.

I think that jaywalking is one of the most idiotic offenses. I think that honestly most laws (like drug laws) should in some senses be removed. The reason is because people need to know how to use the right amount of judgment into what they are doing. I mean if you are an adult, you should know better that taking too much of something or walking across the street can kill you. Of course people won't use the right amount of judgment, but I feel that people should take their lives in their own hands, unless it's something that can effect the life of someone else.

 

 

Everyone has the right to do as he/she pleases with his/her own body. As long as you aren't hurting anyone else, it's no one else's business.

 

He punched her because she was black. I'm sure this white and fat jackass wouldn't have punched her if the girl had been white, blonde, and with nice tits.

 

Agreed. Tax-mongers I MEAN OFFICERS OF THE LAW are the most biased people you'll ever meet.

exactly! I mean of course I don't want to see people die from overdoses on drugs to get high, but they need to know how to moderate and know when enough is enough.

exactly! I mean of course I don't want to see people die from overdoses on drugs to get high, but they need to know how to moderate and know when enough is enough.

 

There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. – P.J. O'Rourke (1993)

 

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. – C. S. Lewis

 

If we aren't making the decisions for ourselves, we're not making them at all. If someone decides not to order a hooker because it's illegal, is he making the decision based on good morals? No. It's not the government's place to make any personal life choices for us. What we need to focus on is getting HELP for heroin addicts, not raiding people's property and then throwing them in jail or shooting them.

 

Same thing with prostitution. We should focus on teaching safe sex practices, not fining someone or throwing them in jail for a business which will never cease to exist.

 

thats all i have to say about that.

Sgt. Sean Whitcomb said late Monday that police were "glad no one was seriously hurt."

 

Of course they were, they'd be in the shit if that punch had done some damage...

 

I think that jaywalking is one of the most idiotic offenses. I think that honestly most laws (like drug laws) should in some senses be removed. The reason is because people need to know how to use the right amount of judgment into what they are doing. I mean if you are an adult, you should know better that taking too much of something or walking across the street can kill you. Of course people won't use the right amount of judgment, but I feel that people should take their lives in their own hands, unless it's something that can effect the life of someone else.

 

Yeah... I personally avoid jaywalking now... I had an incident going to a Coldplay concert where my dad dropped me off in the middle of a busy road two lanes from the island in the middle. I nearly got run over @_@ absolutely hate the idea of it unless there's like no cars around now.

Using the reasoning "the law is the law" is the most immature way of thinking possible. Imagine if Harriet Tubman or Martin Luther King had said "the law is the law". Nothing ever changes if we just blindly follow what lawmakers say.

Goodness, using this logic I suppose I could just go set fire to the unoccupied house down the street. Then when the police try to come get me I can tell them to stay the fuck out of my business and that I don't need to blindly follow the law. Sounds like a plan to me.

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Goodness, using this logic I suppose I could just go set fire to the unoccupied house down the street. Then when the police try to come get me I can tell them to stay the fuck out of my business and that I don't need to blindly follow the law. Sounds like a plan to me.

 

Oh yes because this jaywalking incident was definitely a violent crime! I'm totally saying we should all get away with hurting others and damaging property. :laugh3:

 

There's a difference between non-violent "crime" and actually doing something which affects another person. The former is one's own business, the latter needs to be dealt with. Your assumption that all crime is the same once again demonstrates your blind ignorance.

BTW, I was making a reductio ad absurdum style of argument, if you haven't heard of it you may want to look it up.

 

Yes there's a different between violent and non-violent crimes, duh, but they are both still crimes. Because a crime is non-violent that doesn't make it acceptable to resist arrest and have your friend help you resist arrest by pushing and shoving a police officer.

 

Although jaywalking may seem like a silly crime/law because it involves an individual's decision about their own safety, it's not JUST about them. It's also there for the people driving the cars up and down the street. If a driver had to swerve to avoid a jaywalker that thought they were in the clear, and the driver crashed their car and injured/killed themselves or others, then the law wouldn't seem so silly.

 

I agree that crimes/laws that are strictly decisions about personal safety are silly. Seatbelts and motorcycle helmets, for example. That should just be up to the person to decide if they want to do it. But there is a way to bring light to that issue... resisting arrest and having your friend help you resist arrest and trying to rough up a police officer is not how you do it.

 

Imagine if Harriet Tubman or Martin Luther King had said "the law is the law". Nothing ever changes if we just blindly follow what lawmakers say.

And awhile ago I heard this awful noise, it was really bugging me. I just figured out what it was... it's the sound of Harriet Tubman and MLK Jr. rolling over in their graves at your comparison of these 2 disrespectful girls to them.

BTW, I was making a reductio ad absurdum style of argument, if you haven't heard of it you may want to look it up.

 

I'm aware of what it is, and it still doesn't change the fact that your argument was invalid. The use of fancy language does not make your point any more intelligent or relevant. Your belief that it does is laughable.

 

Yes there's a different between violent and non-violent crimes, duh, but they are both still crimes. Because a crime is non-violent that doesn't make it acceptable to resist arrest and have your friend help you resist arrest by pushing and shoving a police officer.

 

Although jaywalking may seem like a silly crime/law because it involves an individual's decision about their own safety, it's not JUST about them. It's also there for the people driving the cars up and down the street. If a driver had to swerve to avoid a jaywalker that thought they were in the clear, and the driver crashed their car and injured/killed themselves or others, then the law wouldn't seem so silly.

 

I agree that crimes/laws that are strictly decisions about personal safety are silly. Seatbelts and motorcycle helmets, for example. That should just be up to the person to decide if they want to do it. But there is a way to bring light to that issue... resisting arrest and having your friend help you resist arrest and trying to rough up a police officer is not how you do it.

 

Obviously if someone is stupid enough to jump in front of a moving vehicle and the driver injures his or herself, it demands that action be taken. This was not an incident of someone putting other lives at risk; it was an incident of a police officer stepping into these girls' business simply to meet his quota and bring more income to the state.

 

And awhile ago I heard this awful noise, it was really bugging me. I just figured out what it was... it's the sound of Harriet Tubman and MLK Jr. rolling over in their graves at your comparison of these 2 disrespectful girls to them.

 

These girls were being disrespectful? What is there about a grown man wearing a fancy costume with a badge which demands respect? They resisted unjust punishment for an unjust crime, and therefore were standing up for what they believe in. I fully support anyone who resists being bullied by police for non-violent crimes.

In a nation where there's no freedom of speech, and an officer tries to arrest someone for speaking out against the government, they should just take the beating right? Just because you think it's a fair crime doesn't make it any more or less moral for someone else.

These girls were being disrespectful? What is there about a grown man wearing a fancy costume with a badge which demands respect? They resisted unjust punishment for an unjust crime, and therefore were standing up for what they believe in. I fully support anyone who resists being bullied by police for non-violent crimes.

 

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