I mean, he was a terrorist wasn't he?

Erm...he was? :uhoh2:

he plotted to blow up a corrupt government

and since his release has admitted to violating human rights in the process

 

i have no problem with him, i just find it weird he is almost deified by so many people. to me it's like if somebody plotted an assassination attempt on bush or blair and anybody else that was in the building with them because of the illegal wars and going to jail, then in twenty years time it being found the wars were illegal so releasing them and hailing them a hero.

 

obviously that's over simplified but the whole thing seems really strange to me.

hes underrated

hes underrated

 

do continue

i'm not really in either camp, just sparking debate

hes underrated

He has his own day!

and I'm pretty sure a museum dedicated to him too :laugh4:

he met the spice girls too!

I heard he does car commercials..

 

 

.. In Japan!

:laugh3:

he met the spice girls too!

I wonder if there's a picture of that in his museum.

I used to go to school with twins from South Africa. They were white and hated him.

I wonder if there's a picture of that in his museum.

 

that and the 210,000 hand grenades, 48,000 anti-personnel mines, 1,500 time devices, 144 tons of ammonium nitrate, 21.6 tons of aluminum powder and a ton of black powder he collected whilst fighting against the government.

I used to go to school with twins from South Africa. They were white and hated him.

 

they may have been racist. though not necessarily.

that and the 210,000 hand grenades, 48,000 anti-personnel mines, 1,500 time devices, 144 tons of ammonium nitrate, 21.6 tons of aluminum powder and a ton of black powder he collected whilst fighting against the government.

That's oddly specific there gregory.

That's racist.

 

not necessarily

but very possible.

they may have hated him because he killed one of their relatives in his struggle against the corrupt government. i wouldn't say that was hatred based on race.

That's oddly specific there gregory.

 

good ol' google

good ol' google

gotta love how trustworthy google is.

Nope, it's 100% racist.

 

why?

they could well be racists and it could be racially motivated but from the information given how have you decided it was racist? all you know is two white south african twins hate nelson mandela.

gotta love how trustworthy google is.

 

obviously

You're a fun person.

 

arguing about semantics is much more fun than actual debate ;)

so what are your views?

Nope, it's 100% racist.

 

........do you have inside information? if not then that's a ridiculous statement.

 

I dont know much about the corruptness of the government but im sure its was about a million times worse that the blair/bush government, and just for the record the wars were certainly not illlegal, Sadam was the one that broke international law. The UK & USA should be proud of the liberation of Iraq, now they can vote people into power, obviously there was an awful human cost but Sadam had inflicted much more on his own people and the Kurds, (the largest ethnic group to have no homeland)

 

Sorry to change the subject slightly but i had to express it.

........do you have inside information? if not then that's a ridiculous statement.

 

I dont know much about the corruptness of the government but im sure its was about a million times worse that the blair/bush government, and just for the record the wars were certainly not illlegal, Sadam was the one that broke international law. The UK & USA should be proud of the liberation of Iraq, now they can vote people into power, obviously there was an awful human cost but Sadam had inflicted much more on his own people and the Kurds, (the largest ethnic group to have no homeland)

 

Sorry to change the subject slightly but i had to express it.

 

wow, well done :rolleyes:

 

let's get back on topic

why?

they could well be racists and it could be racially motivated but from the information given how have you decided it was racist? all you know is two white south african twins hate nelson mandela.

 

spot on my friend

Violence is necessary sometimes. And he did something to free his country from slavery and that medieval like system. So I think he gets fair enough attention.

Fail thread.

What the hell did Mandela do besides sit in prison??