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Haha, I like the thread title change! That's the spirit!!!

I'm listening to the feed right now, they're just about to come on (probably in one minute or so!) They're going to podcast it, TLo, and archive the show, so you can listen to it there. Live updated pictures from the show tonight: http://www.flickr.com/photos/allsongs Holy shit I'm so excited. LMFAO

I've seen them four times on the Vertigo tour, but never before that. This is really the first tour where I've been old enough to be allowed to go to my own shows. Ah well. I close my eyes and pretend to be at a Popmart show... sometimes...

I most certainly will do that, asking around for ideas:D From what I notice, though, is that it is private donations (people giving directly to the charity through the websites, etc), but people really rally together and make it a big thing. They get excited about giving, etc etc. I love the idea of having a seperate facet of this forum dedicated to the better good! I'm very into humanitarian action, so I'd be very willing to help organize this!

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.

Hm.... I don't know any other organizations, but I'll start scouring the internet for ones! We'll have to make sure it's very, very reliable. We know that Amnesty, Oxfam, etc (the ones you listed) are. But a lot of times you can end up giving to something and getting completely ripped off. That's what scares a lot of people away from charity. Maybe if we make it part of this site, people will KNOW it's reliable and will want to give. A buck here, 2 bucks there, another buck here... It ALL makes a difference. We'll have to figure this out though, along with Ian. It'd be hard to have people give THROUGH here. I don't even know how that'd work. But then again, we can't rely on people to actually donate on the sites.... that may be our only option though.... Either way, it'd take work setting up a charity "causeway" in here, but it'd be worth it!

Whoa, lunar1126, you read my mind!! When I opened this thread I thought the same thing before I saw your post, but I couldn't have said it better myself. I'd be very, very willing to donate some of my money to a "Coldplaying Cause". Perhaps to get people interested, and make people want to give some spare dollars, we could make this a big deal on here. At a lot of U2 shows I see people who meet at shows from forums brings big signs (such as "ZOOTOPIANS UNITED AGAINST POVERTY"). They've gotten a lot of attention from the guys. Maybe if we donated on a whole, then made signs like "Coldplaying Members for Fair Trade", brought them to our shows, it could spark some interest from the guys. I'm not saying that that's what it'd take for ME to do it. But it could appeal to some people who may be more ambivalent about giving to charity. Make it fun and cool (almost like a giving "club"?) and it could be successful. By the way, Nik, thanks for the link. I bought a couple of the armbands at my show back in August, but I never was aware what this cause was exactly.

No I haven't, actually! Is that the book that examines U2's Christianity, and how it affects their songs? I've never found the book ANYWHERE near me (not in any libraries, not in any book stores), and I didn't know if it was that good so I haven't bothered to order it off Amazon.com. Speaking of which, IS it worth ordering?

Holy crap! I forgot about Chris! He's really, really good. I mean, not EXACTLY my musical taste. But he's just so natural! I really think he should just quit the competition. That'd be amazing (and kind of funny to see what happens!). I can't see a person like him winning and having to be tied down to that shitty AI contract that I've heard they've all been forced to live with. Didn't Kelly Clarkson sue or something because she wanted to be free of it? I like Paris as well, but for some reason I can't see her getting way up there in the top 2 or 3. I'm not sure how America percieves her. But then again, I see her going farther than Mandisa, realistically. lmfao, I'm pretty into this season. It's fun to watch (not like I really enjoy the songs they sing). I'm into all the people, they've got some great ones on this year!

Anything Edge sings is perfect, and I immediately love...... *heavy sigh* Sorry.... er. LMFAO! I'm quite in love with The Edge lately.:uhoh:

I'm in no way an autograph collector. But I actually use "getting an autograph" as an excuse to wait to meet someone. Erm... Well, my brother used to collect those Lord Of the Rings trading card things, because he's a geek freak, and he got Dom Monaghan's autograph in one of the deck's. At the time that meant nothing to me, but now I'm an avid watcher of Lost. So it's in MY room. Ha. I went to this thing in New York called BeatleFest a year ago, waited in line to meet Billy Preston, Larry Kane (awesome author/journalist), Mark Hudson (Ringo Starr's producer/band mate) and Neil Innes (I don't think anyone here's familiar with The Ruttles?). Got all their autographs in person. I'm going to the same thing this Friday, and some other people should be there that I'm going to try to meet (and "get their autographs", lmfao). Oh. And I just HAPPEN to have The Edge and Adam Clayton's autographs, from U2. I met Edge (he WINKED!!!! at me), but didn't actually meet Adam. Long story. And I stood two feet from Bono, but pussied out at asking him for his sig. I was trying to think of something insanely intelligent to say, but by the time I thought a relevent thought... he was gone. :( ....I'm lame. I framed the PEN that Adam used to sign my thing...... :sick:

Ian IS a funny. lmfaooo that was brilliant, though. Oh Ian, silly, silly Ian.

beckhamcrosses, I agree. Technically, it is not U2's best. Commercially, it is not U2's best. Critically, it is not recieved well. However, content-wise, I find it amazing. I absolutely love 'Wake Up Dead Man'. How it's almost Bono disregarding Jesus, questioning him. It's very angry. Full of semi-raw emotion. Maybe this does have to do with the rushing of many of the tracks. In a way, I like that. I know I shouldn't bring them into it, but I actually think that Coldplay should do something like this. Not schedule a tour before an album's ready or anything. But do a very raw, quick, album. 'Zooropa' like. If there's any album I wish U2 could go back to and work on more, then rerelease, it'd be 'Pop' hands down. Lyrically, though, leave it how it is!

^Indeed, they are! :lol: I've been studying the Troubles in Ireland recently, and have been listening to a lot of U2's songs with a fresher, more enlightened, point of view. I especially listened to the song 'Please' now, and can really see where B's coming from in it. I came across this interesting, short analysis from http://www.atu2.com: "Please" So you never knew love Until you crossed the line of grace And you never felt wanted Till you had someone slap your face So you never felt alive Until you almost wasted away You had to win, you couldn't just pass The smartest ass at the top of the class Your flying colours, your family tree And all your lessons in history Please, please, please Get up off your knees Please, please, please Please So you never knew how low you'd stoop To make that call And you never knew what was on the ground Until they made you crawl So you never knew that the heaven you keep You stole Your Catholic blues, your convent shoes Your stick-on tattoos, now they're making the news Your holy war, your northern star Your sermon on the mount from the boot of your car Please, please, please Get up off your knees Please, please Leave me out of this mess So love is hard and love is tough But love is not what you're thinking of September, streets capsizing Spilling over, down the drain Shards of glass, splinters like rain But you could only feel your own pain October, talk getting nowhere November, December Remember, are we just starting again Please, please, please Get up off your knees Please, please, please Please So love is big, it's bigger than us But love is not what you're thinking of It's what lovers deal, it's what lovers steal You know I found it hard to recieve 'Cause you, my love, I could never believe Ian's take on Please: I really don't know where to start with this tune. This is one of the most emotionally charged, complicated, incredible songs the band has ever done. It is the '90s answer to Sunday Bloody Sunday, and I think that these two songs, more than any others, can be used to demonstrate the change in the band's attitudes between the two decades. For me, the band's album careers are defined by each decadee. The '80s U2 was about the external. Bono wrote lyrics about what he saw, what the world was around him. The '90s U2 was about the internal. Bono wrote about about his internal emotions, how his feelings and perceptions affected the world around him. The '00s U2 seems to be an adept blending of the two. Sunday Bloody Sunday was all about the conflicts. It was sung in for everyone who was frustrated with the conflicts in Ireland. Please, on the other hand, is about Bono's own feelings. It's about the rage and confusion Bono has. He's not yelling out for everyone to hear, he sings most of the song barely above a whisper. The song is about his views and his attitudes towards all the crap. He's telling someone else what his views are, not giving voice to everyone's views. If you've had a chance to hear multiple versions of the song, each latter version seems to get less and less claustrophobic. The initial demos feel extremely contained, boxed in. The album track isn't quite as enclosed, but it still is very tight. The single version feels a bit more spacious, though not by much. The Popmart live tracks sounded bigger, with Bono's crying out at the end. The Elevation accoustic versions sounded more accepting of others to listening to it, like it was welcoming everyone to listen while Bono was still talking about his most personal ideas. It's like the more he told the story, the more he repeated his ideas, the more comfortable he was with people listening. I've never noticed how ANGRY the 'Pop' album is..... I can't believe so many people disregard this as a "failure" on U2's behalf. Anyone who says that hasn't spent any time to listen to it in it's entirity.... It's very, very deep. Each time I put it on I'm blown away by it. I think I could even debate that the content on 'Pop' hasn't been matched yet by any of U2's recent albums.

lmfaoooooooooooo sniggerb, your signature!

7/10. I like the animation a lot, but not the show...:\

I can't STAND Pickler. I have to admit, I thought she was pretty adorable at the begining. I was taken in by her story, and thought her innocence was kind of refreshing. For about 2 minutes. Now I really think it's all an act. She's just playing up the ditzy southern blonde stereotype to win the "awwwwww!" votes. I want to punch her everytime she says something stupid. Hun, it works for Jessica Simpson. Not for you. I haven't heard Ace perform in the top 12 yet. He always comes on at the begining, or end, and I either aren't tuned in yet, or turn it off. He bores me to tears. And I don't think he's that attractive. Too Constantine for my taste. I like Katherine McPhee, Taylor, Elliot and Mandisa. That's my top four.

It's because Chris is jealous of Guy's insanely good looks. In all seriousness, though, I really don't think they harbor any bad feelings for each other. If they did, the band wouldn't have lasted as long as it has. It's been shown that bands that have two members at odds with each other never, ever last. Actually..... the Stones have lasted.... So.... nvm.

Where'd you get that impression?

I used to be that way, Whisperator. When I was in middle school I was convinced I was going to become a professional trumpet player. I was pretty good too! But then in high school I realized that the music instructor that I had always dreamed of having one day (he was the major force in the school, controlled the music program, and taught the high school level), he was actually a complete dickhead. Always played favorites. He pushed me too hard, and I ended up developing extreme anxiety. That was when I started to hate band, trumpet, and anything related to it. I also got into classic rock at that point, wearing Zeppelin and Doors shirts around. I think I did it mostly to rebel against this music instructor. When I started doing that I noticed he acted very differently to me. Even crueler than he had before. So I guess I fell out of love with music in one respect, and fell in love with another..... Weird...

I guess the whole dillemma this fan will face is written word versus spoken word. Signing off on some paper that said exactly what the contest rules said is very different than someone saying "Oh yes, you will meet them!". That was never in writing, and there's no way this fan can prove it. I don't see the loophole, either... All in all, it fucking sucks. What douche bags. I wouldn't have stood for it while there. I would have gone straight to the person, while being carted around, and said "Excuse me, but can we stop a minute and get the backstage footage?". I'd have raised such a stink while there you would have smelt it in China.

Good points, Reilly. I find myself feeling that way about a lot of music I listen to. I discovered music with Coldplay. I think I was about 12 or 13 years old when that happened. I fell completely in love with them. Nothing they did was wrong, to me. For a couple years they were literally all I listened to, they were all I needed. Then I discovered classic rock. Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, the Stones, Hendrix, the Doors, Dylan, the Who. The list went on and on. I stopped listening to Coldplay for some time (probably an entire year) and listened to JUST that. It was all so new to me. I became quite an elitist, refusing to listen to anything that had been released in the past 25 years. But that grew old too. And I went back to Coldplay. Then I found U2. I think the rest, there, is history. Now I find myself just listening to newer music. I hardly listen to classic rock anymore (I don't consider U2 classic rock). It's kind of amazing to me how much my musical tastes have fluctuated in the past 4 years. For me, I let this taste dictate my life. Insane, though it may sound, it kind of works to me. I can recognize a very critical side of me coming out, though. I notice I don't listen to Coldplay that much anymore... It sort of scares me, I don't know how to explain it. Considering I'm seeing them in 8 days, I better start listening to them again! I'm hoping that the concert will reignite that initial spark I felt. But now I feel that spark when I listen to bands like Keane, Arctic Monkeys, or Interpol. It's annoying, to say the least. I'm still in love with music. Just in a different way. I've thought of becoming a music journalist, so I could live this love. But I don't know. Having a job like that could kill any love I still have remaining...

AMAZING pictures!!!:stunned: I like Alex's hood, hah!