I really don't think that we are in any position, at this juncture in time, to judge Bush as a good or bad president. His second term is half over, there's still half to go. I'm interested to see what happens in that time period, see who we have next, THEN I'll judge him.

 

 

It's a weird situation, because there are people who think he's the best thing to ever touch the earth since Jesus. Then there's people who think he's the worst thing to happen since...... life began? I might not agree with his current policies (OR his past ones) HOWEVER, if he can get his poll numbers from the low thirties (high twenties? I don't know the current figures) to the upper... 70s or something, he might just be the best president ever. Because you have to be a pretty fucking good president to turn this around.

 

 

 

Andrew Jackson will forever be the worst president ever. His sponsorship of the Native American genocide makes me physically ill. Bush can't even top that, for me.

I really don't think that we are in any position, at this juncture in time, to judge Bush as a good or bad president. His second term is half over, there's still half to go. I'm interested to see what happens in that time period, see who we have next, THEN I'll judge him.

 

 

It's a weird situation, because there are people who think he's the best thing to ever touch the earth since Jesus. Then there's people who think he's the worst thing to happen since...... life began? I might not agree with his current policies (OR his past ones) HOWEVER, if he can get his poll numbers from the low thirties (high twenties? I don't know the current figures) to the upper... 70s or something, he might just be the best president ever. Because you have to be a pretty fucking good president to turn this around.

 

 

 

Andrew Jackson will forever be the worst president ever. His sponsorship of the Native American genocide makes me physically ill. Bush can't even top that, for me.

 

I totaly forgot about Jacksons killing of the indians. he was a vile person.

He really was. :angry: He was such a paradox, though... He had absolute blind hatred for the Indians, however when his wife died he fell apart. Interesting man, but not one I would ever like.

Best President Ever - JFK

 

Worst President Ever - By far, Jimmy Carter.

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees 100%

The 2004 election was won ligimetly however in the manner it was won. In my opinion was below the belt.. selling his soul to the far right Christian groups... in order to gain votes from people that he would not normally give a dam about..

I am no god, but I sure when it comes to his interview with the big man upstairs he will have more than a few questions to answer over this. !

or nice bank sized wallet..

 

 

or your daddy being president before and having unfinished business with Saddam :nice:

Bush is a born again Evangelical and he is a supporter of Israel...i could go on forever about the effects of what could be!

well...I don't know that much about american history and presidents.....but maybe he is the most conroversal president...

well...I don't know that much about american history and presidents.....but maybe he is the most conroversal president...

 

:confused:

End Game For The Constitution

 

The Bush administration has done more damage to Americans and more harm to America's reputation than any other administration in history. Yet, a majority of Republicans still support Bush. This tells much about blind party loyalty.

 

By encouraging the move offshore of American jobs and manufacturing, Bush has run up tremendous trade deficits that have undermined the world's confidence in the dollar as the reserve currency. Recently, both Chinese and Russian government officials warned of the dollar's shaky status. The fall in confidence in the dollar is evidenced by the sharp run-up in the price of gold. In January 2001 the price of gold was about $240 per ounce. Today the price is $660 per ounce.

 

The price of gasoline has risen from around $1.30 per gallon to over $3.00 per gallon. Obviously, Bush's war in the Middle East did not ensure the oil supply.

 

On Bush's watch, three million US manufacturing jobs have disappeared. Tens of thousands of highly qualified US engineers have lost their employment. US job growth has fallen six to seven million jobs behind population growth. Recent college graduates are employed as waitresses and bartenders.

 

Illegal immigration has continued to explode. While Bush spends $1 trillion and many lives trying to control borders in the MIddle East, America's borders remain undefended and over run. Bush advocates amnesty for the illegals who have invaded America while Bush invades distant countries.

 

On false pretenses Bush invaded Iraq, a country that comprised no threat to America. American high explosives have devastated Iraq and its infrastructure and killed at least 100,000 Iraqi civilians, people who Bush claims to be bringing freedom and democracy.

 

All stability has disappeared from Iraq. Iraqis now live in fear of one another as well as fear of American troops. On April 28 Iraqi vice president Adil Abdul-Mahdi said that 100,000 Iraqi families have been uprooted by the sectarian violence unleashed by Bush's overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

 

Not content with the uncontrollable mayhem he has brought to Iraq, Bush hopes to expand the catastrophe by attacking Iran. The US Secretary of State, sounding like the warmonger she is, says the US may ignore the United Nations and attack Iran on its own initiative. This would be the second time that the Bush administration initiated wars of aggression--war crimes under the Nuremburg standard established by the US.

 

Bush claims that he is higher authority than both US law and international law. In the past, US presidents vetoed laws with which they disagreed. Bush signs the laws and ignores them.

 

Bush has declared himself to be the sole judge of the limits of his powers--a claim that violates Bush's oath of office to uphold the US Constitution. Bush has set aside the Bill of Rights by detaining people indefinitely without charges, by kidnapping and torturing people, and by spying on Americans without warrants. These are actions that are illegal under law as well as unconstitutional. All of these violations of law and the Constitution are serious impeachable offenses.

 

Yet. Congress is supine as the Bush regime exercises dictatorial powers. The exercise of these dictatorial powers by the executive is a far greater danger to American liberty than are Muslim terrorists.

 

Bush's apologists claim that only terrorists have anything to fear. However, unaccountable executive power is inconsistent with free societies. America is no exception. Unless Bush is impeached and turned over to the war crimes court in the Hague, Americans will never reclaim their liberties from an executive branch that has established itself as the sole judge of the limits of its powers.

 

As Jacob Hornberger, president of the Future of Freedom Foundation wrote last month, "we now live in a nation in which the president has the omnipotent power to ignore all constitutional restraints on his power." Bruce Fein, a Justice Department official in the Reagan administration said that Bush "is moving us toward an unlimited executive power."

 

The Bush regime's practice of excessive secrecy and denial of information to Congress allows the regime to avoid judicial review of its power claims. Bush ignores Congress and evades the courts.

 

When President Richard Nixon made excessive claims for presidential powers, principled Republicans revolted and helped to bring down Nixon. Today's Republicans are loyal only to power. They have no principles. By supporting Bush, Republicans are bringing down America.

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.counterpunch.org/

^:dozey:

The 2004 election was won ligimetly however in the manner it was won. In my opinion was below the belt.. selling his soul to the far right Christian groups... in order to gain votes from people that he would not normally give a dam about..

I am no god, but I sure when it comes to his interview with the big man upstairs he will have more than a few questions to answer over this. !

 

No, it wasn't legit....I have soo much info on this. But I only have the internet for a couple of hours a day due to ISP problems, so I haven't got time to write anything large except to say....it was rigged.

Thats not why. because he was a smart rich man with smart men behind him.

 

 

nail on the head.

No' date=' it wasn't legit....I have soo much info on this. But I only have the internet for a couple of hours a day due to ISP problems, so I haven't got time to write anything large except to say....it was rigged.[/quote']

 

I have total respect in what you have to say on this...

The 2004 election was won ligimetly however in the manner it was won. In my opinion was below the belt.. selling his soul to the far right Christian groups... in order to gain votes from people that he would not normally give a dam about..

I am no god, but I sure when it comes to his interview with the big man upstairs he will have more than a few questions to answer over this. !

 

 

Oh dont go there. Kerry and his side played just as dirty....Every election the politicians play dirty on both sides, its politics for crying out loud!

The Bush administration has done more damage to Americans and more harm to America's reputation than any other administration in history. Yet, a majority of Republicans still support Bush. This tells much about blind party loyalty.

 

By encouraging the move offshore of American jobs and manufacturing, Bush has run up tremendous trade deficits that have undermined the world's confidence in the dollar as the reserve currency. Recently, both Chinese and Russian government officials warned of the dollar's shaky status. The fall in confidence in the dollar is evidenced by the sharp run-up in the price of gold. In January 2001 the price of gold was about $240 per ounce. Today the price is $660 per ounce.

 

The price of gasoline has risen from around $1.30 per gallon to over $3.00 per gallon. Obviously, Bush's war in the Middle East did not ensure the oil supply.

 

On Bush's watch, three million US manufacturing jobs have disappeared. Tens of thousands of highly qualified US engineers have lost their employment. US job growth has fallen six to seven million jobs behind population growth. Recent college graduates are employed as waitresses and bartenders.

 

Illegal immigration has continued to explode. While Bush spends $1 trillion and many lives trying to control borders in the MIddle East, America's borders remain undefended and over run. Bush advocates amnesty for the illegals who have invaded America while Bush invades distant countries.

 

On false pretenses Bush invaded Iraq, a country that comprised no threat to America. American high explosives have devastated Iraq and its infrastructure and killed at least 100,000 Iraqi civilians, people who Bush claims to be bringing freedom and democracy.

 

All stability has disappeared from Iraq. Iraqis now live in fear of one another as well as fear of American troops. On April 28 Iraqi vice president Adil Abdul-Mahdi said that 100,000 Iraqi families have been uprooted by the sectarian violence unleashed by Bush's overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

 

Not content with the uncontrollable mayhem he has brought to Iraq, Bush hopes to expand the catastrophe by attacking Iran. The US Secretary of State, sounding like the warmonger she is, says the US may ignore the United Nations and attack Iran on its own initiative. This would be the second time that the Bush administration initiated wars of aggression--war crimes under the Nuremburg standard established by the US.

 

Bush claims that he is higher authority than both US law and international law. In the past, US presidents vetoed laws with which they disagreed. Bush signs the laws and ignores them.

 

Bush has declared himself to be the sole judge of the limits of his powers--a claim that violates Bush's oath of office to uphold the US Constitution. Bush has set aside the Bill of Rights by detaining people indefinitely without charges, by kidnapping and torturing people, and by spying on Americans without warrants. These are actions that are illegal under law as well as unconstitutional. All of these violations of law and the Constitution are serious impeachable offenses.

 

Yet. Congress is supine as the Bush regime exercises dictatorial powers. The exercise of these dictatorial powers by the executive is a far greater danger to American liberty than are Muslim terrorists.

 

Bush's apologists claim that only terrorists have anything to fear. However, unaccountable executive power is inconsistent with free societies. America is no exception. Unless Bush is impeached and turned over to the war crimes court in the Hague, Americans will never reclaim their liberties from an executive branch that has established itself as the sole judge of the limits of its powers.

 

As Jacob Hornberger, president of the Future of Freedom Foundation wrote last month, "we now live in a nation in which the president has the omnipotent power to ignore all constitutional restraints on his power." Bruce Fein, a Justice Department official in the Reagan administration said that Bush "is moving us toward an unlimited executive power."

 

The Bush regime's practice of excessive secrecy and denial of information to Congress allows the regime to avoid judicial review of its power claims. Bush ignores Congress and evades the courts.

 

When President Richard Nixon made excessive claims for presidential powers, principled Republicans revolted and helped to bring down Nixon. Today's Republicans are loyal only to power. They have no principles. By supporting Bush, Republicans are bringing down America.

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.counterpunch.org/

 

 

EXecpt for carter and many other presidents.

nail on the head.

 

Huh?

can't you read... :rolleyes: you said the way he won his election was because he was a rich 'smart' man...

 

 

you got the rich part right...

can't you read... :rolleyes: you said the way he won his election was because he was a rich 'smart' man...

 

 

you got the rich part right...

 

:lol:

can't you read... :rolleyes: you said the way he won his election was because he was a rich 'smart' man...

 

 

you got the rich part right...

 

I got the whole thing right, rich and smart. because being just rich does not get you into office. you need brains to back up the money. because if that was so any ole rich dude would be in office, when that is not the case. it takes far more then just money to become elected.

^Well the "smart" ones are in the shadows...............................that's why!!;)

Why do you think he is so dumb?

Why do you think he is so dumb?

 

Now that must be a rhetorical question!!:P

Nah, the only reason people think he is dumb because they dont like him. its nothing more then dislike.