dfective Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I just don't get it... keep reading so many posts from people saying that their new album is so much better than X&Y... I think these people need to get their back catalogue out again and remind themselves of the tracks on the album. White Shadows, Low, Swallowed in the Sea, Speed of Sound, Talk, Square One, What If... all amazing. Really all the tracks on the album are amazing! From their new album (which I've cained to death by the way) I have only really found myself liking Yes! (Chinese Sleep Chant), 42, Reign of Love and Violet Hill. The others just don't really stand out in my head. Whilst working today I started humming Strawberry Swing, but I don't find it amazing... maybe it's a grower. I've just found their new album slow and in many places, quite cheesy. DAAHF reminds me of Status Quo, the breakbeat on lost is awful and should be removed, LIJ is like some Irish folk jig and VLV reminds me of some dodgy Clannad / Enya track... Anyone else agree?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrot cruncher Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Cant say i do theres not one track on viva that i dont love but there were a couple on xy that i didnt like that much, i still love xy but at the moment i think viva is better and they did say this album will be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsu Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I just don't get it... keep reading so many posts from people saying that their new album is so much better than X&Y... I think these people need to get their back catalogue out again and remind themselves of the tracks on the album. White Shadows, Low, Swallowed in the Sea, Speed of Sound, Talk, Square One, What If... all amazing. Really all the tracks on the album are amazing! From their new album (which I've cained to death by the way) I have only really found myself liking Yes! (Chinese Sleep Chant), 42, Reign of Fire and Violet Hill. The others just don't really stand out in my head. Whilst working today I started humming Strawberry Hill, but I don't find it amazing... maybe it's a grower. I've just found their new album slow and in many places, quite cheesy. DAAHF reminds me of Status Quo, the breakbeat on lost is awful and should be removed, LIJ is like some Irish folk jig and VLV reminds me of some dodgy Clannad / Enya track... Anyone else agree?? Reign of Fire...Strawberry Hill Where did you get these mash-ups? :D I loved X&Y, I don't understand why it's regarded quite so poorly as it is around here, but this album's far better I'd say. More variation, more colour, more ideas. They couldn't have done much better to my mind. Loved the Status Quo comment, I've been thinking that for ages! (But still love it :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlene_Ihnfsa Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 i guess that the main cause why you hadn't liked the new album is because you seem to be a bit irish hater... see you hadn't liked LIJ because it sounds like an irish folk and VLV because that one reminds you to Enya. :uhoh: i think that your critic is a bit weak, but well each one to their own... you still have another 3 coldplay albums to enjoy ;) and please people just calm down, is not meant that we all will have to like all Coldplay albums that they will ever realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfective Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 Lol not an Irish hater... more like an Irish MUSIC hater... :rolleyes: DAAHF is TOTALLY Stat Quo... when the beat comes in I just cringe, ruins the song completely. If they play that in concert, everyones going to be dancing like their Dads! Ps. Edited Strawberry Swing and Reign of Love... can't believe I wrote that... haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlene_Ihnfsa Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 ^then that's the simply reason why you don't like the album... you think that is irish-like one and you don't like that kind of music. *trying to sound like a psychoanalist* then case solved, which one is next? *sounding like Mr. Holmes* just an advice, let the album grow on you ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfective Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 The whole album isn't Irish sounding, just two of the track have parts that remind me of it... and yes I do think it's pretty weird for Coldplay, mainly the reason why I don't like it. Cummon... just because it's got Coldplays name credited on each track doesn't mean you have to love it. They could pump out some drum and bass and most people here would probably love it... I love Coldplay for the music, NOT the name. I like Coldplay for what I know them to be when they played stuff like Shiver, See You Soon, Don't Panic, Trouble, etc. so when they change their style no wonder why some people don't like it. Yes some tracks will probably grow better on me but I think I've already identified those, like Strawberry Swing and Life In Technicolor... but I don't think I'm ever going to grow into a track that sounds like Status Quo! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Master Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 The world would be boring if we all liked the same things. IMO X&Y didn't have a bad track on it, while AROBTTH had a couple I could take or leave, as did Parachutes...... I don't know how I'll feel about VLV yet....... but from what I've heard sparingly so far, it seems to be terribly easy listening and pretty chilled out..... which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat1229 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 yeah X & Y is the poorest album imo, not that its bad just not near as good as the ot her three. AROBTTH and Viva La Vida are their strongest works so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 x & y is their third best album for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcold Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I suggest you listen to Cemetaries of London as much as you can and when it finally sinks in that this song is in the top three they ever made you will start to see that this album is pound for pound better than X and Y. Now better than AROBTTH, well the jury is still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guxt Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I suggest you listen to Cemetaries of London as much as you can and when it finally sinks in that this song is in the top three they ever made you will start to see that this album is pound for pound better than X and Y. Now better than AROBTTH, well the jury is still out. That is the best advice that anyone that want to talk about VLV should take in serious consideration. People have to listen more and more to this new album. It's not as easy to listen as X&Y was. X&Y was more radio friendly and this new album is not that at all. And why in this world we have to compare both albums???? Both are great, and both are different to the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoldplay Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 X & Y was the most straightforward album I think I've ever heard. Everything was spoon fed to us with clear cut song layouts, repeated lyrics, etc. VLV is much different. Some of the best moments of the album you can miss as they only last seconds long. Songs aren't quite set up like they are "supposed" to be. As the fellow above me said, VLV isn't as radio-friendly as X & Y was. Viva La Vida has taken the radio by storm, but I don't see the album's masterpiece, 42, being requested across the country. This album requires patience by the listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gloaming09 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I just don't get it... keep reading so many posts from people saying that their new album is so much better than X&Y... I think these people need to get their back catalogue out again and remind themselves of the tracks on the album. White Shadows, Low, Swallowed in the Sea, Speed of Sound, Talk, Square One, What If... all amazing. Really all the tracks on the album are amazing! From their new album (which I've cained to death by the way) I have only really found myself liking Yes! (Chinese Sleep Chant), 42, Reign of Love and Violet Hill. The others just don't really stand out in my head. Whilst working today I started humming Strawberry Swing, but I don't find it amazing... maybe it's a grower. I've just found their new album slow and in many places, quite cheesy. DAAHF reminds me of Status Quo, the breakbeat on lost is awful and should be removed, LIJ is like some Irish folk jig and VLV reminds me of some dodgy Clannad / Enya track... Anyone else agree?? X&Y is more of a pop album. Yes it's good melodically but it's not as good as VLV. VLV I find is much better specifically Lyrically, and also sophistication (with the use of multiple instruments). I understand that you may not like it right away like X&Y since it's possibly more melody-friendly, but I think that VLV is a stronger album. X&Y they were sloppy/rushed in making an album, this one they took their time and made sure it turned out right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navegador Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I can't choose which was better, so... 1st - X&Y / VLVODAAHF 2nd - AROBTTH 3rd - Parachutes You can't compare X&Y with VLVODAAHF, it's COMPLETELY different. It's like trying to compare Black Sabbath with Supertramp, COMPLETELY nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4e Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 it actualy took me a while to get into x&y, the songs for me werent to good during the first few listens, but i grew to love it after a while, it is an excellent album. with VLV 2 listens and i was hooked, it is certainly a different album to x&y, arguably better, i prefer it to x&y anyway, but not by much. and WTF? lovers in japan does NOT sound like irish folk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camofire Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 i think a lot of people here dislike X&Y because of what the band has said about it themselves a while after it was released..i.e. the band has actually influenced peoples opinions of X&Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceci29 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I dont like to compare their albums, i think they're all different and reflect different sides of them as a band.... i love and enjoy them all :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyphin Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 wow, dfective. I...couldn't disagree with you more. I think a paragraph would be wasted on explaining that, but uhm, you are entitled, of course, to your opinion. but man...wow, do I disagree with you...have you even HEARD the lyrics to Lovers in Japan? Or DAAHF, for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfective Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 wow, dfective. I...couldn't disagree with you more. I think a paragraph would be wasted on explaining that, but uhm, you are entitled, of course, to your opinion. but man...wow, do I disagree with you...have you even HEARD the lyrics to Lovers in Japan? Or DAAHF, for that matter? Listen to "Whatever you Want" by Status Quo and then listen to DAAHF, then come back here and apologise. Yea the lyrics to LIJ are good, but the backing track doesn't agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicophi235 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I find X&Y and VLV to be so different in so many ways that it's difficult to compare the two. Kind of like comparing The Beatles' "Please Please Me" to "Revolver." The goal and the intent of the music is different. VLV is an exploration into different instrumentation, different time signatures. It's a lot more expiramental, and a side effect of that is it's less easily digested by the general population. A non-fan would definitely prefer Parachutes or X&Y, but as a fan, I appreciate the effort to expand and grow musically. Just my opinion. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoldplay Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 i think a lot of people here dislike X&Y because of what the band has said about it themselves a while after it was released..i.e. the band has actually influenced peoples opinions of X&Y. Very very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipoffools Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Maybe it's the newness of it, but I honestly can say that Viva La Vida is tied with A Rush Of Blood To The Head as my favorite Coldplay album. I love X&Y, but it didn't strike me anywhere near that Viva La Vida (or A Rush) has on the first listen. Viva La Vida also is their most artistic album to date, and is a huge step forward for the band. I don't like comparisons, though. All four albums have something to offer the listener, why compare them? They're all good albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnie Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 :\ Honestly, I think each of their albums are different to a degree where to compare them head on with each other is just a disaster waiting to be fed. As for X&Y being better than VLV or not? Come on. The two are so different that I dont think you can compare them without being unfair. X&Y has a lot of smooth, soft grooves. VLV has more color and "life" and is more outwardly upbeat. A Rush of Blood To The Head is sort of "hard" and driven, but deep. Parachutes is more simple and "raw". They're all different from each other that it's hard to compare. But lyrically I think VLV is the most excellent of the moment. I mean, Cemeteries of London? Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathey42 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I'm not even really that familiar with Status Quo but i've got to say the very same thought sprang to mind when I heard DAAHF! That said, I still think it's by far the best track on the album and the little morph into The Escapist is just the icing. I think the point is that X&Y obviously had it's great moments (there were lots, Square One & A Message for me) but when it was bad it was bad. Apart from it being too long, some of the lyrics were ridiculously simple (swallowed in the sea) sounded rushed and well below CM's standard. I love the fact that new album has a less commercial sound and I think it shows an obvious growth and maturity, well apart from that lyric "just because i'm hurting, doesn't mean i'm hurt". What?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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