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Guitarist Joe Satriani sues Coldplay for plagiarism

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what the heck with all these stuffs??? :dozey:

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Pathetic attempt at reviving whatever career this guy had...its working though. Now people will be dowloading songs of his to see if his claim is true.

 

Bastard.

 

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why has it taken him soo long him 2 sue..i dunno bout u but if i was in his boots and i actually thought coldplay copied him (which i dont think they have) i would be sueing the day the record came out..not months later...but really this soounds nothing like vlv...well most part of it...just like 3 seconds of that part...but i deffo dont think they been copying

There's no doubt that there's a very slight resemblance

but when you consider the number of songs that exist in this world that could easily be a coincidence

I think Satriani is just jealous because Viva la Vida is so popular and no one really likes him...

:P

:laugh3:

 

What an a-hole.. he wouldn't have sued if the song hadn't been a big hit :rolleyes:

This song sounds NOTHING like Viva La Vida, at all, no part of it, not rhythm, no sound, NOTHING, no chords, anything at all!!!!

 

What. A. Fuckwit (pardon my language).

 

Not even a little?

 

[ame=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofFw9DKu_I]YouTube - Did Coldplay copy Joe Satriani?[/ame]

this guy is a total don.

he's going to loose. jealousy is a dangerous thing my friends!

If this guy thought his song had been copied - legitimately copied - then he would have filed this lawsuit the second the song hit the airwaves. The song isn't the issue here. He is after the money.

 

Ale is right. If Viva had bombed, this wouldn't be happening.

whoever this dudnugget is he's incredibly full of himself and needs to find something to do with his life.

whoever this dudnugget is he's incredibly full of himself and needs to find something to do with his life

YouTube - Did Coldplay copy Joe Satriani?[/url]

 

you can't deny it looks like it, but i think the law sue is just because he's kind of jealous of the succes of the song.

and if you listen to the full song, it's pretty clear that it's just parts of the song that sound alike.

 

DO NOT fall for this.

 

The YT video, which I have seen before, has been modified to make the boys look bad. The Viva bit's sound has been changed (the song itself), just listen to Chris's voice, ffs, it sounds like he's My Chemical Romance or something, don't fall for this garbage.

^^^^^ YEAH! i thought so when i listened to it the first time!! i was deffinitely suspicious :veryangry2:

The fact is, everyone steals from everbody else!!!!!

 

I am surprised that the Jimi Hendrix estate hasnt sued Prince for plagiarism, or even the James Brown estate for that matter!!

 

Then look at the late Michael Hutchence!! He definately stole from the late Jim Morrison!!!!

 

Really, in all reality, theres not one geniune, individual performer out there, and there never has been IMO!!!!!:):)

 

I agree with you. It's really hard to define plagiarism nowadays.

 

Just hope they can find the truth but I belive that this plagiarism thing is not true.

Th question I ask is not only why would Coldplay does this, but would Brian Eno?? Remember this guy was in the studio with them constantly. He's one of the most well known rock producers. you think he HE would let something like this go? I doubt it.

What worriest me is how this will hamper the song's chances of getting the Grammy awards. Voters dont usually vote for the song that has garnered controversy and plagiarism accusations.

 

If VLV won the award it would probably garner even more accusations, and make the voters look bad, which i'm sure they'll definitely give up quality to please the masses

^^^^^ YEAH! i thought so when i listened to it the first time!! i was deffinitely suspicious :veryangry2:

 

Yes, I KNOW. just LISTEN to the Viva la Vida song at the start guys, what a ridiculous attempt to make the boys look bad, Jesus.

What worriest me is how this will hamper the song's chances of getting the Grammy awards. Voters dont usually vote for the song that has garnered controversy and plagiarism accusations.

 

If VLV won the award it would probably garner even more accusations, and make the voters look bad, which i'm sure they'll definitely give up quality to please the masses

 

Have you watched the Grammy's? Quality never wins!

I hope I dont get flamed on in my first post here because I am very glad I found this forum to discuss coldplay with other fans. I hate to say it but Satriani does have a case in my opinion. I dont listen to Satriani at all but when I heard about this I listened to the song he claimed was ripped off on You Tube and they are more than a little similair. The melody and rhythm sounds alike and even the lead guitar sounds like Martin's vocals at points. The thing is that it is not the 70's anymore, there is a lot of music and millions of songs in music history now, and it is going to be impossible for there not to be songs made that sound similair to others. The question is whether it was done on purpose or not and that may never be known. The thing is if it was not done on purpose what can be done about it? Should a credit on the song be given to Satirani? Should he be payed for plagiarism? If I thought my music was used and credit was not given I would be upset as well, I dont think we should be mad at Satriani. I'm sorry I don't agree with most in this thread it looks like and hopefully am not hated right off the bat here for disagreeing, but I dont see how you cant hear the similarity in the two songs.

 

Another famous plagiarism case in music was when George Harrison was sued because the Chiffons thought his great song "My Sweet Lord" was ripped off from their hit song "He's so Fine." I'm only 28 so I wasnt around when this happened but I love old music as well as new and listened to the two, at first I didnt think there was any similiarty at all, but as I learned more about music and the melody of music I do see the similiarity. It's all about the melody or rhythm of a song that these songs sound similiar, The Chiffons won that case and I would say the similiarity of Viva la Vida and the Satriani song is on the same level. That lawsuit was decades ago though and Im not sure if Satriani can win a lawsuit now, also Coldplay an him may settle out of court. Im sure whether Coldplay meant it or not they see the similiarity's between the songs.

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I only hope this doesnt turn into another Queen/David Bowie vs. Vanilla Ice fiasco!!!!!!:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

Pathetic attempt at reviving whatever career this guy had...its working though. Now people will be dowloading songs of his to see if his claim is true.

 

Bastard.

 

:angry:

 

From what I have read about Satriani he is successful, I admit Ive never listened to him but I have heard the name, he supposedly is one of the greatest guitrists ever. He does successful tours around the world and his albums seem to sell well. Is he as successful as coldplay, no, but not many musicians are. Does he just want to get paid? Maybe, but how do you know he doesnt honestly believe he should be paid for plagiarism? I think you need to put your bias aside. The songs sound very similiar, I was actually a bit shocked when I listened to the Satriani song, I didnt listen to the comparison video, I know viva la vida well enough that I didnt have to, I just listened to the satriani song all the way through. The question will be whether Coldplay meant it or it is just a coincidence. It's really hard to be believe the song was not some kind of influence when listened to but anything is possible. I think many coldplay fans are upset, but to say the songs dont sound alike or there is no possible way Coldplay could have plagiarized someone are just being completely biased.

 

I picked a great time to join. :rolleyes:

Hmm...they're definitely similar, but so are 11 other tracks (if we're to believe Chris), so it's obviously just a popular melody. Is that plagarism? I don't think so, but non-Coldplay fans seem to, so unless this judge is a huge Coldplay fan, Satriani's going to get paid...that saddens me, because to be completely honest, I doubt anyone would be stupid enough to rip off a track and then have it as the title track on their album, do you? And even if they were, to then say "Here, iTunes, make it so my plagerisee has no choice but to have this song rammed down his throat every one of a thousand times it accompanies an advert of my band dancing around, that will just be a big up yours to Joe Satriani, yes, lets do that..." would just be idiotic.

 

But obviously I'm going to say that, aren't I? Nobody's going to think I'm without bias, but why would he bother, think about it? They're successful enough without Viva la Vida, they already had three albums that sold very well, it's not like there's any doubt from their fans in their songwriting abilities, so why try to pilfer from some guitarist half their fans have never heard of and therefore probably wouldn't even like? (I had heard of him, but can't say I'm a big fan, even of the song Coldplay are meant to have ripped off!). Just...don't base your opinion on that comparison video. The melody of the Coldplay song has been altered, I actually just played them both together to be sure and they ARE different, the one in the video is higher to make it sound more like Satriani. I would post the comparison of the two but it's proper grating...

The two sound similar but they're definitely not the same song. And Littlewhiteshadows is right, the key of the song got tweaked in that comparison video to make it sound closer to Satriani's.

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