My Disappointment With Coldplay Live...

[librahi]

not that i have to keep bringing this up in every post i make, but wanted to bump this. i honestly feel that if they haven't added anything or changed anything, they won't do much for this tour. i felt like, with the comment they made about adding older songs and making the show longer, they would have come right out of the gate with a new set. then, when they didn't, i felt that it might take a few shows to work out some new songs in the soundcheck, etc. it doesn't even seem that they're doing that now. what gives? i went to the second show on this leg and am going to the second to last show on this leg. if i get the same set, i will be shocked and upset. i'm sure i will still enjoy the show... after all, it is coldplay.

[worldtrav]

Why will you be upset? It's called the Viva La vida tour, so when you bought the tickets did anybody say it would be a different set?

I am sure sooner or later they will mix it up a bit otherwise they wouldn't have started rehearsing old songs but god only knows if and when this will happen ( I personally think the European Stadium gigs will def. have 1-2 extra songs). Until then everyone gets what it says on the tin - Viva la vida.

 

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[librahi]

Why will you be upset? It's called the Viva La vida tour, so when you bought the tickets did anybody say it would be a different set?

I am sure sooner or later they will mix it up a bit otherwise they wouldn't have started rehearsing old songs but god only knows if and when this will happen ( I personally think the European Stadium gigs will def. have 1-2 extra songs). Until then everyone gets what it says on the tin - Viva la vida.

 

P.

 

read the interviews done with them before this tour (and before i bought my tickets) stating that they will add older songs and extend the setlist. then quit making posts and trying to make me look like an idiot. thanks.

[worldtrav]

You can always sell your ticket!!

no offence here but constant moaning about the set list won't make it change any quicker.

 

P.

[librahi]

You can always sell your ticket!!

no offence here but constant moaning about the set list won't make it change any quicker.

 

P.

 

and what exactly are message boards for? voicing opinions? oh yeah, thanks. :escaping:

[DreamOutLoud]

Even though, it's just my opinion.... Coldplay has to put in some open spots within their electronic show where they can play from a selection of older songs that would not interfere with their electronic sequencing. They could play something different in a couple open spots. This is what RH does, they have a huge electronic lights sequence, but keeps about 5 or 6 open spots for surprise songs. This is what makes people go to many show b/c of the different songs played. Their excuse may be they don't remember how to play the song.... well, I guess this is what separates the men from the boys. Practicing a bunch of your old songs and relearning them before you rush into a tour. RH practiced a catalogue of 50 songs or more before touring. Remember CP started out this tour and cancelling the first month's shows b/c it wasn't ready. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the shows...I'm traveling to London for Pete's sake! And spent the most money ever on this band... three shows this year, but you know what's coming... just like listening to the same album over and over, you know the song before it starts playing. And changing one or two songs for a whole leg of tour isn't doing it. They have been playing the same songs for over two years so they could play these in their sleep...robotically almost! The band should have more confidence in themselves to change it up.... "Confidence in you is confidence in me" Who said that? :P

 

 

i couldn't agree more.. Well said. And this is exactly how I feel about them.. I love these guys but there is no point in going to more than one show/multiple shows because the setlist does not change. I have been following them since 2003 and frankly identical setlists have been the norm since then. So now when they tour I just hit the one show and that's it. For me this is not the norm, i go to many shows of my fav bands, the more the better IMO. I do this with U2, RH, Muse, The Killers, SP etc. CP really have the back catalogue to pull out older songs to mix it up some.. One or two songs here and there would really make a difference. I mean they have to know by now that the majority of their fans go to more than one show. Your example of RH is right on and this is what makes going to their shows so great. The same can be said of U2 they do try to mix it up a bit.

 

anyways, my 2 cents...

[worldtrav]

i couldn't agree more.. Well said. And this is exactly how I feel about them.. I love these guys but there is no point in going to more than one show/multiple shows because the setlist does not change. I have been following them since 2003 and frankly identical setlists have been the norm since then. So now when they tour I just hit the one show and that's it. For me this is not the norm, i go to many shows of my fav bands, the more the better IMO. I do this with U2, RH, Muse, The Killers, SP etc. CP really have the back catalogue to pull out older songs to mix it up some.. One or two songs here and there would really make a difference. I mean they have to know by now that the majority of their fans go to more than one show. Your example of RH is right on and this is what makes going to their shows so great. The same can be said of U2 they do try to mix it up a bit.

 

anyways, my 2 cents...

 

 

that's fair enough and totally understandable.

Personally I think every concert is different and that not just depends on the set list.

[librahi]

that's fair enough and totally understandable.

Personally I think every concert is different and that not just depends on the set list.

 

not saying this just cause it's you.... but these shows actually are not differing at all. the way the live songs sound on LRLRL are identical to the shows I have so far on this tour, even the quirkly line changes he throws in.

 

examples:

 

1) fix you - "500 meters from the band at the coldplay show...." on LRLRL and at the shows I have seen and heard on youtube.

2) 42 (i think) - at the end where he huffs and puffs then belts out that long note, while looking at his watch at the end. it's identical from all reviews and videos i have seen.

3) dragon/lion head... same

4) jokes about the band at the end of violet hill, "mixing up the lyrics" identically.

5) that's right off the top of my head and i can add to it when i go back and listen and see more things.

 

even in our atlanta show, they added georgia on my mind. cool, but the last three acts i have seen in atlanta do that. who cares? do a song you wrote that we want to hear.... john mayer did it and i can't remember who else, but i remember thinking that when john mayer did it.

 

again, not trying to bash them because, to me, they create some of the best songs ever written. they are brilliant. but i do stand by the fact that getting online, tracking setslists, and going to one more show a tour is not as fun as doing it with someone like radiohead, dave matthews band, john mayer, ben harper, etc.

[worldtrav]

as said I don't mean the songs....every show is already different because it's different audience etc.

But everybody to there own.....

Coldplay for me is an outstanding live band and I do see loooots of gigs but nobody since years as blown me away as them.

 

P.

[DreamOutLoud]

that's fair enough and totally understandable.

Personally I think every concert is different and that not just depends on the set list.

 

 

everyone has their own take on things I give you that but having followed them since 2003 and going to more than one show every tour except for this one everything is the same, scripted the same, etc... Using the reasoning about the casual fans being the main core of the audience at their shows just doesn't fly anymore. They clearly have a huge fan base that go to multiple shows and they have to know this so why not change it up with a song or two (even just doing them acoustic).

 

Keeping a main core of songs each show makes sense for the causal fan, this is what U2 (as does most bands, frankly comparing DMB doesn't make sense cuz they are a jam band and these bands tend to be quite spontaneous with their setlists, completely different style of music) does for the most part but they do pull out the rarities here and there and snippets of songs they haven't done in years. They do this because they know that their fans go to many of their shows and honestly I think this keeps their creative energy, excitement and the love they have for playing live going all these many years.

 

IMO, if they have enough of a back catalogue of songs they should pull a couple out here and there..

[l0wxo2]

I've seen Coldplay five times in the last four years.. every show does feel different and the set list has been the same the past two times I have seen them, I do wish they would play some of their older stuff, Parachutes is my favorite album, I am however thrilled they brought back "Green Eyes". No matter if the set list is the same, they still put on the most amazing live show. I am seeing 2-3 concerts back to back in July and I know the set list won't change. I think later in the tour, they will switch up a few songs but for the most part they will remain the same. I still think they are incredible but do agree they need to switch the set list up just a bit.

[DreamOutLoud]

i have seen them at different times during a couple of tours... and the setlist doesn't change.. I am not talking the feel of the shows and or the atmosphere. I am talking the setlists mainly. This doesn't not change and if I am going to multiple shows this just doesn't do it for me that's why I don't see them more than once a tour now.

[kschaffer]

I am totally with you. I realize it's a big, choreographed production but switching a few songs a night is completely do-able (see U2, for ex) even with an elaborate video show.

 

A REAL bummer that so far this leg is starting out the same.

[ilmari]

yeah, i haven't seen them live (going in july, woo!) but i've seen the set list and it's a little disappointing that they wont be playing too many of their older songs. viva is a great album but so are the others and it's a shame that it's not very even. from what i've seen in the youtube videos though i think the visual makes up for the lack of variety. balls of confetti? giant lasers? paper butterflies? amazing.

[Malcolm-Edge]

Well for the everyday non-hardcore fan this set is perfect. Looking at it, I do love every single song being played. Sure I'd appreciate maybe another 15-20 minutes and some song rotation. I am seeing them twice in two nights.

 

But also I haven't seen them since last year. I'll get, Postcards, LiT ii, Glass of Water, Green Eyes. And maybe some more. The shows I will see will be different then the one I went to. Which is what the Oracle said when they do change it up. Sure Im seeing the same tour, but I'll get some different things.

 

You guys must remember they are appealing to the everyday concert goers, especially being in the summer. The hardcore, set list isnt well, feasible.

 

Someone stated they like Viva La Vida and what not, but you want some older stuff. Don't mean to be blunt but, look at your ticket it says Viva La Vida Tour. They are in support of the Viva La Vida album. Just like Twisted Logic was mostly X&Y and A Rush Of Blood To The Head Tour was mainly AROBTTH and B-sides. Its business. From my standpoint, we are seeing Coldplay in their prime, and will be left with memories that will last a life time! Do not be disappointed, be happy.

[twiqz]

This is such a shocker... I just realized every song is the same on this tour for every venue they play at. This must be a new thing, The last time i saw them was in 06, then they were switching it up a bit. I saw them twice in 05 though. The first 6 songs were the same and the encore was the same too, but check out the difference in the last half of the show from when i saw them in Columbus, Oh to when i saw them in Pittsbugh,PA

 

 

Columbus

#7 A Rush Of Blood To The Head

#8 Amsterdam

#9 White Shadows

#10 The Scientist

#11 ’Til Kingdom Come

#12 Ring Of Fire (Johnny Cash Cover)

#13 Green Eyes

#14 Clocks

#15 Talk

 

Pittsburgh:

#7 The Hardest Part

#8 Everything’s Not Lost

#9 White Shadows

#10 The Scientist

#11 ’Til Kingdom Come

#12 Don’t Panic

#13 Clocks

#14 Talk

 

 

 

Now these 2 concerts were only a few days apart(19). This is very disappointing to hear that their doing this, i havent paid much attention to their setlist since '06, wonder if they have been doing this for a while? And look at the setlist then and now look at them...Wheres my parachutes at :cry::cry::cry::cry:, Wait i guess ill hear yellow. :embarassed:

 

....Ps It has to be boring for them youde think deciding to sing every song for every show, yuck

[librahi]

i'll just bump this, seeing as the tour only has a month left. not one single set change from the first show of the tour, not ONE. i'm upset, but will still enjoy the charlotte show. i'll try to erase the set from my memory.

[Black Rose]

That's pretty lazy of the boys not to even change one song in the setlist, and must be getting on being boring playing the same setlist night in night out

[Krystyna]

Well, I saw them twice in two nights in vancouver, and the lack of changes to the setlist the second night didn't bother me at all. I knew what to expect going into the first concert too as I'd glanced over setlists before, but I still had a great time. The energy of the band, the enthusiasm of the crowd, that made those nights really special for me. Not saying that the same thing couldnt be achieved with different setlists, but it didn't really seem to matter.

 

And the crowd was even livelier and on cue when it came to singing the second night than the first, and i know many were seeing the show a second time, almost like saturday was just a rehearsal for the crowd.

 

Songs that I thought might not work live, proved to work extremely well. I really kind of believe them when they say they've perfected their set now, and like the order of songs and all that. The show was very upbeat as well, and I think they want to keep it that way, which I think may explain the lack of Parachutes/older songs.

 

I also agree on the point about this tour being a mass appeal kind of show. I've seen Prince on two occasions, one he was playing small vanues and focusing on his newer, not radio friendly, jazzier material, and the next show was sort of a greatest hits tour. I dont think he'd have packed an arena if he promised a show full of songs off the Rainbow Children rather than promoting the fact that he'd be playing his 80s hits.

 

I was already slightly irritated when individuals in the crowd couldn't recognize songs like Glass of Water or even sing along to some of the more familiar songs, so I don't know how much fun it'd have been if I was the only one singing along to Warning Sign or Don't Panic.

[soulsalsa7]

I understand the disappointment and that's exactly what it is, not extreme anger. :) Especially when it was stated in an interview. For whatever reasons we won't know for sure, that did not come to pass. So I wouldn't necessarily be quick to say that the boys were 'lazy' on their part. After all we don't know what business dealings, contracts, technical aspects, personal preferences they have. Again that does not belittle anyone's feelings or thoughts of being disappointed with a fixed setlist and desiring to hear more of their other songs.

 

I would love to see some variation in their setlist too. Still I know that I will enjoy my concert regardless. Just like others who have expressed in this thread, disappointed yes but still going to enjoy their shows. ;)

[Malcolm-Edge]

Well, I saw them twice in two nights in vancouver, and the lack of changes to the setlist the second night didn't bother me at all. I knew what to expect going into the first concert too as I'd glanced over setlists before, but I still had a great time. The energy of the band, the enthusiasm of the crowd, that made those nights really special for me. Not saying that the same thing couldnt be achieved with different setlists, but it didn't really seem to matter.

 

And the crowd was even livelier and on cue when it came to singing the second night than the first, and i know many were seeing the show a second time, almost like saturday was just a rehearsal for the crowd.

 

Songs that I thought might not work live, proved to work extremely well. I really kind of believe them when they say they've perfected their set now, and like the order of songs and all that. The show was very upbeat as well, and I think they want to keep it that way, which I think may explain the lack of Parachutes/older songs.

 

I also agree on the point about this tour being a mass appeal kind of show. I've seen Prince on two occasions, one he was playing small vanues and focusing on his newer, not radio friendly, jazzier material, and the next show was sort of a greatest hits tour. I dont think he'd have packed an arena if he promised a show full of songs off the Rainbow Children rather than promoting the fact that he'd be playing his 80s hits.

 

I was already slightly irritated when individuals in the crowd couldn't recognize songs like Glass of Water or even sing along to some of the more familiar songs, so I don't know how much fun it'd have been if I was the only one singing along to Warning Sign or Don't Panic.

 

I 100% agree, the Vancouver shows were perfect! Minus Will screwing up Death Will Never Conquer the first night. The jokes were different both nights. The crowd was was better night two. The Cameras made us shy the first night, but not the second.

[coldplay.obsessed]

Well I guess if you seen them for the first time in that tour, the set list doesn't really matter to you, but if you see them for like 50000000000th time obviously you don't wanna hear the same thing over and over again:thinking:

[Malcolm-Edge]

Saw them a year ago too. Its changed, a bit.

[coldplay.obsessed]

I guess they just try to choose the songs you can't disappoint people with or something, I mean if you suddenly start playing Spies I maen I love that song, but the other 20,000 people in the building might not you know what I mean, they go with eveybody's favourites, and then the ones they don't have on the set list are probably like personal favourtie or whatever :uhoh:

[LFDianne]

See, I saw them in June and November of last year. The June show was the first night of the whole tour. The November show was just around the time they released Prospekt's March, and now they've added several songs from that. So they have changed it up a bit since the last US leg.